Just Asking: Can We Root For the Phillies?
Out of curiosity, am I allowed to root for the Philadelphia Phillies in this World Series? Because that's the way I'm leaning right now.
I know, I know. The Rays are a great story. They're young, they're up-and-coming. Last year, they were the worst team in baseball, and now, they're four wins away from a championship. Even if they don't win this series, their season has already been one of the best sports stories of the year.
And this could be just the beginning. There's a lot of talent on the Rays' roster, especially in the starting rotation, that could fuel a sustained run of success.
Plus, being an American League guy, I should root for the AL team, right?
But there's something about these Phillies that appeal to me. Maybe it's because Philadelphia sort of reminds me of Detroit. I have nothing to base that on, other than just a gut feeling, a perceived shared blue-collar ethic. Plus, you know, people want to live in Philly, while not many seem to want to live in Detroit. (Well, this guy does.)
The sports fanbases certainly seem similar. We love our sports. We rabidly support them. We live and die with our teams' successes and failures. And we'll also turn on them in a second if they don't put forth an effort.
In Detroit, however, we've tasted recent championship glory with the Pistons and Red Wings. Philadelphia, meanwhile, has had some painful almosts, including the Phillies in '93, the Eagles in Super Bowl XXXIX, and the Flyers that lost to the Wings in 1997. (Go Wings!) And that's where my soft spot develops.
I'd like to see Philadelphia get itself a championship. I rooted against the Phillies hard in 1993, being something of a Blue Jays fan back then, and Joe Carter's series-winning home run is one of my favorite memories as a sports fan. But that had to be tough on the other side. Really tough. And the Phillies haven't been close since then.
Another thing I remember about that series: Before Game 1, I remember walking out of Sgt. Pepper's in Ann Arbor while wearing a Blue Jays hat (I still love that logo!) and as I crossed the street to my car, someone yelled "Phillies!" at me before he entered the store. That's kind of what I'm talking about.
But really, I just want to see a well-played, six-or-seven-game series.
If you're still deciding which team to root for, Big League Stew has a helpful rooting primer that could help sway your allegiances.
And if you're curious about that "Why Can't Us?" logo, that is brought to you by Dan Levy of the On the DL podcast. Maybe you're familiar with some of the work his 609 Design has done for Tony Kornheiser over the past few years. Dan's created a movement, and if you buy a "Why Can't Us?" t-shirt, proceeds support the fight against ALS.
Your SB Nation partisan views for the 2008 World Series can be found at DRaysBay and The Good Phight. Best of luck to both.

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I'm leaning with you...
I simply find it difficult to pull for any of the recent expansion teams (Rays, D’Backs, Marlins, Rockies) because they do not have the history attached to them like most other teams. That’s one of the greatest parts about baseball is its history.
However, I can pull for these new teams if they are playing a team I despise (I loved the D’Backs in ’01 and the Marlins over the Yankees a few years later).
More than anything though, I want this series to be close and last as long as possible. The off-season is long and I need baseball to last as long as it can.
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Pleading our case
After the Chicago Cubs heartbreaking loss to the San Diego Padres in the 1984 NLCS, Chicago Tribune columnist Mike Royko encouraged all Cubs fans to switch allegiance to the Tigers for the World Series, and wrote the following:
"Go get ‘em cousins. And remember there is more at stake than a mere baseball championship. Or even the honor of all the has-been slums or sausage-eating cities of America. We’re counting on you to stop the spread of fern bars."
Philadelphia is Detroit’s spiritual “sausage-eating city” cousin in a way that Tampa/St. Pete can never be.
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WHY CAN'T US?
Go Phils
I can’t root for Tampa Bay in this series for two main reasons.
1. Philly fans, evil as they are, care about their teams and deserve a championship. Tampa Bay fans…well, there weren’t any of them until about three weeks ago. Let them actually show more than a month’s worth of support for this young team and then I’ll give them my sentimental vote.
2. I still hate Carlos Friggin’ Pena.
Good luck, Philllies. Here’s to Matt Stairs winning a World Series.
It's the Fans
I like most of the players on the Phillies, but the fans are brutal. I live on the East Coast so I went to all 4 games when the Tigers were in Philadelphia in ‘07. During one game this drunk screamed at Sheffield the whole game which caused me to cheer for Sheff everytime he did, well anything. That nearly resulted in an altercation. The next game another drunk continued to yell (from the upper deck) down to Verlander reminding him that he wouldn’t be getting a no hitter today. He also wasn’t particularly nice to us.
Now, I don’t expected to get treated like royalty in opposing team’s parks, but this kind of unprovoked, pointless viciousness is something I thought was reserved for Yankee fans. And Eagle fans I guess.
Also, Philly fans are much, much harder on their players than Tiger fans. It takes a lot for Tiger fans to turn on their players. And really when you think about it our guys only get booed when they play bad AND mouth off to the press.
Philly fans hate their guys when they’re in slumps and love them when they’re not.
Sidenote: Why would anyone hate Carlos Pena? He didn’t jump ship, he was cut. We’d have him right now if Leyland had more faith in him after spring training ’06.
Pena
Hate? Probably too strong of a word, I admit. But watching him from 2002-2005 and seeing him never live up to the hype was frustrating…made more frustrating by his success in Tampa.
.253, .248, .241, .235 batting averages in his four years in Detroit. Good for Brandon Inge, sure, but not for the supposed franchise first baseman. His best year was 2004 with 27 HRs and 87 RBI’s, but with a .338 OBP and a .810 OPS, it was still disappointing. How anyone could blame Leyland and/or DD for giving up on him, I don’t know.
Then, he goes to Tampa, hits .282, 46 HRs, and 121 RBI’s in ‘07. He walked 103 times…33 more than his career high. His OBP jumped to .411 and his OPS was 1.038. He wasn’t as great this year, but still hit 31 HRs and 102 RBI’s with another 96 walks.
Sorry for all the stats, but before this year’s bullpen, I always identified Carlos Pena with the word “frustration”. At least I didn’t go after Troy Percival…he was injured and still was willing to scout for us.
How about this? I’ll root for the Phillies for their gift of trading us Polanco for a jailbird and some magic beans.
Count me as a Rays backer
I don’t really care who wins, but Philadelphia’s fans are a close third behind Boston and New York in annoyance, and their sports teams aren’t even good at anything…
count me on the rays bandwagon
1) I like the Phils, but….the Rays are a better story, the worst to first thing captures me every time. In a way, they’re like the 2006 Tigers, hadn’t had a winning season in forever, and suddenly in the big time. In the case of the Rays, they’ve NEVER had a winning season, and now they’re playing for all the marbles.
2) I am a Carlos Pena fan. He was with us when we sucked, and maybe with a better coaching staff, he’d be an all star first baseman for Detroit now.
3) I found an old school Devil Rays hat, original 1998 logo in my closet a few weeks ago, totally forgotten I had the sucker. I meant to wear it to work today but forgot….
4) Small market team thing. Philly doesn’t have the hugest payroll, but they are a big market. Tampa bay wins, and we can put to rest the eternal whining of the Kansas City’s and the Pittsburghs of the Major Leagues. It’s like we’ll be able to say, why yes, if you just had competent people running your organizations, you’d be able to compete, too.
That said, all of tampa’s stars will be on the mets or Yankees or Dodgers or Red Sox in a few years.
5) The fact that they beat the Red Sox. I’ve had enough of them, and I’m glad that some team finally managed to actually close out a 3-1 (or better) advantage. For some reason, I’ve developed an intense loathing for Jonathan Papelbon, and I’m glad we don’t have to hear about him through this series.
6) Curious to see whether the massive layoff this year hurts the Phils the way the Rockies forgot how to play ball last year when they had to wait for Boston to get past Cleveland. Still doesn’t mean I’m going to root for them, just that I hope the series goes like 6 (or 7!) and is competitive.
But still and all….GO RAYS!
The best reason to root for the Phillies
Losingest professional franchise.
125 Seasons, 1 World Series victory.
With that said, Go Rays!
Go Phils...
Having spent some time in Philly, there are some similarities to the D. The only reason I might not root for the Phils is that Philly fans famously booed Santa Claus at an Eagles game.

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