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The Market For Magglio

Perhaps the worst-kept secret of the Detroit Tigers' off-season will turn out to be an interest in trading Magglio Ordonez.  No one directly associated with the team has hinted at such a move (and rightly so), but many reporters and observers seem to think it's something the Tigers are going to do.  Lynn Henning of the Detroit News, in particular, has been flying this flag for months.

If the Tigers' payroll figures to be about the same ($134 million) as it was this year, which Dave Dombrowski asserted at baseball's GM meetings yesterday, then it certainly stands to reason that trading Ordonez is really the only way to free up a significant portion of payroll (he'll be paid $18 million next season) while also offering value to any team with a reliever, catcher, or shortstop to spare.

Sure enough, there's some rumbling in the baseball blogosphere as to where Maggs' curly locks might flow next season.  Let the blockquotes begin.

MetsBlog.com:

...assuming the Mets look to left field as a way to upgrade the offense, if they are unable to sign Manny Ramirez, or trade for Matt Holliday, or sign a less-expensive free agent, ordonez could be a decent option, considering players like Raul Ibanez and Adam Dunn will likely sign a three-year deal anyway…i’m not sure magglio makes a whole lot of sense, given the history of his knees, the National League, etc., but he is an option worth keeping an eye on, though i would probably prefer dunn in this scenario...

River Avenue Blues:

I’d say pass on Ordoñez.  He doesn’t incrementally add much to the Yankee roster that the team couldn’t add by re-signing Abreu.  Plus, he’s going to cost, at least for 2009, significantly more than Bobby, and the Tigers will ask for something beyond fiscal relief in a trade.  If the Yankees are interested in Ordoñez, they may as well just stick with Abreu for less money, and they wouldn’t have to give up prospects to boot.

Talking Chop:

A guy like Ordonez would probably be a good fit for the Braves.  He's an average left fielder with good pop in his bat, and he's a right-handed hitter which fits well into our heavily left-handed lineup.  Mags is also a controlled hitter, who takes a fair number of walks and keeps his strikeouts down.

The contract is a pretty big one, but we have the money to spend this year, and a contract like his that goes down the next two years, when other player's contracts likely increase, will fit well into our payroll for the next few years.

Jim Salisbury of the Philadelphia Inquirer also mentions Ordonez as a possible fit for the Phillies if they lose Pat Burrell to free agency.  And if you haven't read it already, The Spot Starters made the case for trading Maggs to Tampa Bay (though Blake's obviously looking at this from a Tigers-centered viewpoint).

So would you be more surprised if the Tigers did or didn't trade The Big Tilde this winter?  Are there any other teams you see as a good match?  (If not for the fact that they're looking for a left-handed bat, I think the Cubs would actually be a nice fit.)  What sort of return do you imagine Detroit could yield from trading arguably their best hitter?  The floor is yours.

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Cincy

Another entirely plausible destination I’ve heard are The Reds. They need a righthanded bat, a rightfielder (Maggs is actually slightly better than Bruce in RF), they have money to spend after trading away Dunn and Junior and they have pieces the Tigers need. One suggested scenario I heard was The Reds sending SS Alex Gonzalez (who is signed thru ’09 with an option for ’10), SP Homer Bailey and RP Josh Roenicke for Maggs. They also have (for your consieration in the relief pitcher department) Nick Masset and Jared Burton. I doubt Cordero is a consideration.

I also like the fit because The Reds have something else we dont, a glut of 3B prospects between A and A+ ball.

by MacRae on Nov 4, 2008 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

as much as I hate on Magglio for his inability to show a little hussle, I want him to be on OUR roster for the upcoming season.

by wepri31 on Nov 4, 2008 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

And 2010 and 2011.

Everyone will miss him, but if he gets hurt after those options kick in that’s a lot of money committed to a RF in his late 30’s.

by MacRae on Nov 4, 2008 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Cubs

Since you first floated that Cubs idea by me I haven’t been able to shake it. The Cubs were focused on getting a lefty bat last off-season and it back fired horribly (Fukudome). Maybe this off-season they’ll just look to add a bat in general. I think Magglio is making more and more sense for the Cubs.

However, the Cubs system is a bit bare. There’s no way they get Soto. Do you think Vitters would be a possibility, or do they focus on pitching?

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Nov 4, 2008 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

The Cubs really need a lefthanded bat. Wait for them to pass on Abreu before thinking that Magglio will be on the other side of Lake Michigan.

by MacRae on Nov 4, 2008 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

M's?

In a possible effort to replace Raul Ibanez, The Mariners have surfaced in the Magglio talks. The Tigers target? J.J. Putz.

The Mariners also have some intrigueing prospects to add to the mix and I suspect they might see this as an opportunity to unload Johjima’s contract on us. At $8m/year Johjima’s not a terrible catcher to have, though he’s be committed through 2011 and you’d have to hope that his bat rebounds.

by MacRae on Nov 4, 2008 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

Maggs

If Mr.I is going to hold the payroll as is, then that means they have 25 million to spend minus Verlander’s contract, then it looks better for Maggs to stay as a Tiger. Maggs would be first to go if they decide to cut payroll. Tigers should put their poker face on and wait and see what they are offered from other teams.

by Barry2 on Nov 4, 2008 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly, I think I would cry.

Not a hyperbole. As devastating as the Rodriguez trade was (to the freakin’ Yankees… for Kyle Farnsworth? Defies logic, really,) this would bear only ill will from me toward the franchise. Yes, I realize that there are reasons to do it (though none, in my opinion, terribly good,) but my impression was that we were not going to see sweeping payroll cuts this year like a lot of people had believed. Also, despite the traveshamockery that was this season, I don’t think anyone is writing off 2009 as an uphill chance. Giving up one of the best hitters on the team makes no sense.

Finally, fans like him. If we pretend the 2006 World never happened (which I do on a daily basis,) then that wonderful season ended with Magglio belting one into left field. Come on! It’s Magglio. Don’t trade him. Please!

by JMonsoon on Nov 4, 2008 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

Rays?

Here’s a blog post I linked in this morning’s Frosty Mug:

- The Tigers trade Ordonez and cash (say $6 million per year for three years) to the Rays;
- The Rays trade starter Andy Sonnanstine and minor league pitcher Jeremy Hellickson to the Brewers; and
- The Brewers trade shortstop J.J. Hardy to the Tigers.

From Infield Chatter

I don't specifically articulate my motives, because that wouldn't travel as well as a boo does.

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 4, 2008 6:02 PM EST reply actions  

I’m not sold on Sonnanstine yet really, and I’d rather go after Furcal then get JJ Hardy straight up.

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by Tony K on Nov 5, 2008 6:16 AM EST up reply actions  

No pain, no gain

Today, I listened to Dickerson’s call of Maggs’ homerun in ‘06 and did cry….. just remembering. It will be a heartbreak if he’s traded for sure, but look what the Pistons did with Chauncy to get that team moving again.

by densogirl on Nov 4, 2008 6:51 PM EST reply actions  

What the Pistons did is not comparable. Billups won a championship in Detroit and cemented a lasting legacy; Ordonez has somewhat of a legacy but no championship.

A world series win would feel empty without Pudge; it would be POINTLESS without Maggs

by BigDaddyJC on Nov 5, 2008 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

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