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Like Stripes on the Fur Coat of a Tiger - 12/15

  Tiger Tales has an interview with Curtis Granderson.  Topics of discussion include situational hitting, defense, basestealing, and Grandy's upcoming second annual charity basketball game.

  Detroit Tigers Thoughts takes on the "Edwin Jackson was once a top prospect" argument used by those who like his acquisition.

  Was Dave Dombrowski chasing wins when he made the trade for Jackson?  Beyond the Box Score has a quote that could lead one to that impression.  (via Baseball Musings)

  Adam Everett has officially signed his contract with the Tigers.  No surprises.  One year for $1 million, plus incentives.  But how about Steve Kornacki citing range factor in his story?  Anything to try and put Everett's defense into a quantifiable asset, I suppose.

  From his mailbag, Jason Beck addresses the Tigers' decision not to offer arbitration to Edgar Renteria and how the World Baseball Classic might affect the team.

  If Chris Capuano was one of the non-tendered free agents that caught your fancy (though no one posted any comments here to that effect), forget about him.  He re-signed with the Brewers today.

  This isn't Tigers-related, but it has some local flavor.  MVictors.com found an eBay auction of a ticket stub for a 1932 baseball game played between the University of Michigan and Meiji University of Tokyo.

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I like these new guys

They’ll try and make up for their lack of offense but great defense. And, at least Everett can bunt. Team players. No big egos.

by densogirl on Dec 15, 2008 8:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WinJack

For anyone who still thinks that the Jackson/Joyce trade was the end of the world I implore you to check out Christina Kahrl’s review of the trade on Baseball Prospectus.

Her central points:

1. Finding OF who hit well enough to play is much easier than finding starting pitchers who are under team control for three years and are at least average.
2. Jackson’s stuff is good and he has no serious injury history. His frustrating habit of leaving fastballs up in the zone should not be nearly as difficult to correct as the various other problems in the Tiger pitching staff. Though she does wonder why it simply hasn’t been corrected already. She also points out that Jackson is less than a year older than Joyce.
3. Joyce’s future is by no means a sure thing. He hit .218/.336/.345 over the final two months of the season and isn’t very good against lefties. She also notes that he goes fishing on low pitches and has a tendency to pull off.

Basically at this point all we know is that both teams traded for need and there is no way to determine a clear winner. At the end she writes “this seems like a reasonable bet on both sides of the proposition.”

by MacRae on Dec 15, 2008 9:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jackson

I think too much is made over all of this “once a top prospect” myself.. but then again, Edwin Jackson throws cheese.

I think adding a man who went 14-11 with a 4.42 ERA in the AL East could help this team out. It’s better than the alternative, Nate Robertson and D Train. I highly doubt any of us expect Jackson to come in and do anything more than be consistent, I’ll take 13-13 from the guy as long as he stays healthy and we leave Miner or Robertson in the bullpen.

This team has made bigger mistakes than acquiring Jackson, but I’ll take Jackson as a consellation prize after losing Jurjjens for basically nothing last offseason. Jackson has the ability to become our Kelvim Escobar, his fastball is live and his slider has tilt. I think pitching around other solid pitchers has made him better.

Hopefully his career growth will continue… I feel DD sold high on Joyce because I do not expect Joyce to become this feared power hitter that his 12 bombs in limited duty lead us all to believe.

by Boney on Dec 15, 2008 10:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Possibly

I agree with some of the “sold high” comment…that that was maybe as good Joyce is likely to be.

But I think that some of Jackson’s improvement is the result of the Rays defense getting a better behind him. Though I think that part of his fade from “top prospect” was injury-related, and he’s maybe recovering? I hope?

This might be a completely fair trade where both teams get less than they were expecting.

by cherub_daemon on Dec 16, 2008 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pitching trumps outfielder

Especially for the Tigers that have too many out fielders and not enough pitching. I hope they trade another outfielder.

by Barry2 on Dec 15, 2008 11:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would even paid half is salary

I know that sound bad to pay a player to go away but you could take the 7 millions in saving and sign Cruz or put it towards Fuentes.

by Barry2 on Dec 16, 2008 8:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think it's time to move Maggs... to be honest

speaking of selling high.

Whatever they can get for Maggs, who has all of the sudden turned into Tony Gwynn (I know he still hits the occasional homerun) is a bonus.

He’s got to the be the first one to go if things start to fall off this season… he’s not worth a haul like the Marlins got for Cabrera, but he is worth a big league ready arm or bat.

by Boney on Dec 16, 2008 11:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Possibility Maggs gets moved

If teams are still looking for a bat after Aberu, Dunn and Burrell get signed then a trade is possible. Also depends on whether the Tigers sign a solid reliever. The Tigers are moving quite slow in that direction so it would be a surprise if they sign Fuentes or Cruz.

by Barry2 on Dec 17, 2008 5:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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