This Week's Jack Wilson Post
Okay, we know the Detroit Tigers don't want Edgar Renteria to be their shortstop. The team wouldn't even offer him arbitration, even though the San Francisco Giants' rumored interest in Renteria likely means he would've passed on it. We now also know, thanks to Jon Paul Morosi, that Detroit is no longer interested in making a deal with the San Diego Padres for Khalil Greene. And Morosi thinks the $6.5 million Greene is owed next season might be a big reason for that.
Yet the Tigers are still apparently circling around Pittsburgh's Jack Wilson. (Though Blake wonders if his $7.25 million salary for next season is now considered too pricey, as well.) Morosi reported yesterday (before the Greene news, it should perhaps be noted) that the Tigers and Pirates are in "ongoing" talks about a trade.
Our SB Nation broham Bucs Dugout wonders if Detroit's minor league system has the sort of prospects that the Pirates are looking for. But one of their commentors pointed to Jennifer Langosch's mailbag at MLB.com, in which she suggested several players the Tigers might be offering in a deal:
There is young depth at short in Detroit's system. The Tigers might be willing to part with Brent Dlugach since he's probably the organization's No. 3 shortstop right now. Trying to pry away the organization's No. 2 shortstop prospect -- Danny Worth -- would likely require the Pirates to offer more than just Wilson. But it is a possibility.
The Tigers have plenty of Minor League outfielders that they could offer, including Brent Clevlen, who the Pirates have shown interest in before, and Matt Joyce, a left-handed-hitting corner outfielder. But really, the Pirates already seem pretty set in terms of young outfield prospects.
As for pitching prospects that Detroit possibly would be willing to offer, Luis Marte, a young power arm, and Guillermo Moscoso were names that came up in discussions I had with someone in Detroit.
After all the pitching Detroit gave up last offseason, the idea of giving up more in a trade for a one-to-two-year stopgap might make some cringe. But it's also difficult to imagine the Tigers getting Wilson without sending over a young arm in return.
Meanwhile, Baseball Prospectus's John Perrotto says the Dodgers are cool on dealing for Wilson now. (Hat tip to MLB Trade Rumors) But the Baltimore Orioles may have taken their place in the competition for making a deal. However, Bucs Dugout wonders if the O's want to give up prospects at this point. (Baltimore might be saving its younguns for a potential Jake Peavy deal, too.)
So Pittsburgh might be facing a one-team market for Wilson. Does that help the Tigers' chances of getting him or lessen the Pirates' willingness to to deal him?
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Jack Wilson...
…gives the Tigers very little for a pretty high price. No matter who they give up, they’ll be overpaying him in salary. If the Bucs will take a low B or C grade prospect, that might be worth it. But I wouldn’t give up anyone who they think has a chance to see the bigs in the next 3 years.
The Pirates should be grateful to unload Wilson’s salary and get anything in return.
by russkiejedi on Dec 3, 2008 9:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WHY WON'T THIS RUMOR DIE
We need to find a way to kill it once and for all. It’s like the ground zero zombie of rumors, the one where it all started, the one you have to kill to make the epidemic end.
Conclusion: someone needs to go Resident Evil on Jack Wilson, or we will all suffer the bloody, gangrenous consequences.
by Roar of the Tigers on Dec 3, 2008 9:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thamson
I get the feeling that Wilson to The Pirates is like Thames to The Tigers. He has more value to them than he does to anyone else. The fact that The Pirates apparently try to deal him every year with no takers could be a sign of that.
Upon further review declining Renteria’s option makes more sense to me. The four teams that were after him would have probably been whittled down to one (The Giants) if he were offered arb. And at the cost of a draft pick The Giants offer would have likely decreased making it very possible that Renteria would have accepted. And while The Tigers aren’t in full salary dump mode, Renteria’s $9m can – in theory – net a catcher, SS and reliever (ie Punto, Zaun, Beimel). With that scenario it’s a smart deal.
It becomes absolutely moronic if we trade for Wilson. Declining $9m makes no sense when we have to give up guys to absorb $7.25m. Any more than Dulgach is a waste of money. Seriously, why should we give up anymore than we did for Sean Casey? (Brian Rogers, I had to look it up).
At this point I’d be relatively pleased if we walked away with Laird, Punto and Beimel.
by MacRae on Dec 3, 2008 9:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wilson/Punto
Wilson not that bad but his 7.25 million is a bit steep. Be interesting what Renteria and other sign for. Tigers should wait. I could also live with Punto and Laird. The only problem I have with Laird that means Gullien is playing left field and the Tigers have so many corner outfielders. I would love to see 4 left handed bats in the line-up (Granderson, Punto, Gullien and Thomas or Joyce). The batting average on Beimel against went way up last year and the Tigers need to know why? Tigers should save their pennies to purchase pitching.
by Barry2 on Dec 3, 2008 10:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whoa...
Verducci’s point about old shortstops is pretty amazing. Let’s go with a young guy…
by russkiejedi on Dec 4, 2008 4:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
No idea who we gave up yet
Tigers Acquire Jack Wilson
By Tim Dierkes [December 4 at 11:15am CST]
According to Dan Graziano of the Newark Star-Ledger, the Tigers acquired shortstop Jack Wilson from the Pirates today. We’ll update the post as more info comes in.
by tigerfaninChicago on Dec 4, 2008 12:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that was from
MLBtraderumors.com of course (for those who do not recognize Tim Dierkes)
by tigerfaninChicago on Dec 4, 2008 12:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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