Could Miner Be Paired With Laird?
If we're not talking about Jack Wilson trade rumors, then it must be time to check in on the Gerald Laird chatter, right? While the Detroit Tigers seem to be playing hokey-pokey (left foot in, left foot out, shake it all about - while various baseball writers file conflicting reports) with a Wilson deal, they appear to be making a move on Laird. (And given the market for catchers vs. shortstops, maybe this is where Detroit should be "more aggressive".)
MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan reports that the Tigers and Cincinnati Reds have shown the most interest in Laird, and lists several young pitchers from each organization that might get a deal done. To my eyes, the Reds' pitching crop looks better, but the Rangers don't seem very keen on Homer Bailey, if that's the player being offered. Meanwhile, the name mentioned for the Tigers is Zach Miner. (Chris Lambert is also listed, but Detroit would surely have to include much more with him in a trade than with Miner.)
Blake beat me to this over at The Spot Starters, expressing reservations about trading Miner, who's been much more productive as a back-end starter than his more celebrated (and higher-paid) teammates. However, our SB Nation broham, Lone Star Ball, scoffs at getting Miner for Laird. (But if you scroll through their comments, a couple of other intriguing deals are proposed.)
Evan Grant attaches Laird to Detroit too, saying that the Rangers are talking to the Tigers and Red Sox about trading a catcher. And if it's Laird being discussed, it's probably with the Tigers. The Red Sox want one of Texas's younger catchers, more than likely Jarrod Saltalamacchia.
I'm a fan of Miner, especially if Jim Leyland realizes that he's much better pitching as a starter than reliever, and would hate to see him go. But realistically, unless Dontrelle Willis or Nate Robertson is somehow dealt, there isn't a place for him in the starting rotation. And though Leyland seems enamored with Miner's sinkerball out of the bullpen, he was far too inconsistent in middle relief last season. So if Dave Dombrowski could package him in a deal that yielded a dependable catcher under club control for two years, that might work out nicely.

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And you turn yourself around....
That’s what it’s all about!
by densogirl on Dec 5, 2008 1:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree, that deal actually seems sensible to me due to the starter logjam and my desire not to see him relieve. Nothing that involves Wilson ever will.
by Kurt Mensching on Dec 5, 2008 1:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great Idea
Jack Wilson should learn to thrown the knuckleball. Then he can be the Tigers fifth starter and starting SS. When Wilson is starting on the mound the Tigers can have Santiago at SS. Meanwhile, the Tigers could trade Miner for Laird (with Jack Wilson pitching in the starting rotation) and the Tigers would be all set.
I love rumor season.
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by spotstarters on Dec 5, 2008 1:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a good deal. Two guys whose teams are convinced can be starters but who really aren’t.
I think we should go after Teagarden. Not because he’s supposed to be awesome, but because Baseball Prospectus comapred him to Mickey Tettleton with better defense.
Then sign Smoltz for one year and the karmic effect of righting a 22 year old wrong will bring us a championship.
by MacRae on Dec 5, 2008 2:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Miner....
He was there second best pitcher the second half! No way….but as you said, unless Old Man River puts him in the rotation, then go ahead. Can’t they take D-Train? $$$ says no, but if it could happen, maybe for Lambert and they throw in MIllwood to trade salaries.
by Zappatista on Dec 5, 2008 3:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather have him as the 5th starter than Willis, but that really isn’t saying much. He has a 4.72 ERA as a starter compared to 3.47 as a reliever. There is also very little evidence to suggest that he could throw 200 innings over the course of a season. I like him as a swingman or again as an alternative to garbage, but I don’t think a 4.30 ERA over 73 IP is indicative of guaranteed success as a full-time starter.
by MacRae on Dec 5, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Miner as a back-up
You don’t mess with pitching. Miner is a good back-up in case one of the front five have a repeat performance or a injury occur. They can have Lambert or Bonine though. Unless Tigers sign at least two pitchers.
by Barry2 on Dec 5, 2008 4:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Of course they can have Bonine. They can have Tata too. Doesn’t mean they want him.
All in all it doesn’t really matter. When we’re talking guys like Laird, Everett, Wilson and Montero these aren’t names that are going to breathe new life into this team. And with or without Miner, if the rotation and bullpen doesn’t have a serious about-face in performance this team is going to win about 80 games next season.
This actually just dawned on me recently, but hasn’t anyone else found it strange that there hasn’t been a single sliver of a rumor about The Tigers hunting for a new starter? We basically have Verlander and our trust that he’ll bounce back, Galarraga (who is sure to decline, even slightly next year) and three question marks. And that doesn’t even begin to explain the question marks in the bullpen.
Point is, I don’t care if we trade Miner and get Saltalamacchia AND Michael Young, without better pitching we’re toast. And I just find it odd that the team doesn’t seem to be addressing that yet. Sure it’s early, but with the level of talent were talking about at C and SS, pitching seems to be a more pressing need.
This would be a good start however (bottom story):
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/1315528,CST-SPT-deluca05.article
by MacRae on Dec 5, 2008 5:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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