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Game 13: Twins (6-6) at Tigers (2-10)

Minnesota Twins at Detroit Tigers, Apr 14, 2008 7:05 PM EDT


Nick Blackburn (0-1, 2.25) vs. Jeremy Bonderman (1-1, 3.97)

We'll find out soon enough whether Jim Leyland's clubhouse rampage (I'm sure he would love seeing it described that way) kick-started some urgency into these Detroit Tigers.  They're only back home for a quickie two-game series, but taking two from the Minnesota Twins here would make up some ground in the AL Central.

And what better way to begin a series than by putting your winningest starting pitcher on the mound?  Never mind that Jeremy Bonderman is the only Detroit starter with a win.  Then there's the whole problem with the Tigers having just two wins for the season.  Semantics! 

Nick Blackburn has only allowed three runs over the 12 innings he's pitched so far.  He's given up 12 hits in those two starts, but has also struck out 11 batters.  When Blackburn faced the Tigers in Detroit last September, however, they smacked him around for six runs and seven hits in just two innings.

So much for Carlos Guillen sitting out a few games for that strained hamstring.  He's back in the lineup tonight at first base.  Placido Polanco will also return to his usual spot after getting yesterday off because of a sore back.  And Brandon Inge gets a break after having to catch.  Starting lineups will be posted in the comments.

Twinkie Town provides your SB Nation opposing view for this two-game series.

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Starting Lineups

MINNESOTA

1.  Carlos Gomez, CF
2.  Denard Span, RF
3.  Joe Mauer, C
4.  Justin Morneau, 1B
5.  Delmon Young, LF
6.  Jason Kubel, DH
7.  Brendan Harris, 2B
8.  Mike Lamb, 3B
9.  Adam Everett, SS

DETROIT

1.  Clete Thomas, CF
2.  Placido Polanco, 2B
3.  Gary Sheffield, DH
4.  Magglio Ordonez, RF
5.  Miguel Cabrera, 3B
6.  Carlos Guillen, 1B
7.  Edgar Renteria, SS
8.  Ivan Rodriguez, C
9.  Jacque Jones, LF

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

FSN Plus

Just in case you need that list of channels again, here you go.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Scoreless first inning for Bondo!

That might never get old.

And it's nice to see the other team hit into a double play for once.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

it would also be nice to see Polanco and Sheffield hit a ball to something other than a Twin glove

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 14, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if this is old news

But the Dan Dickerson just said Fernando Rodney has an appointment with Dr. James Andrews of Tommy John surgery fame

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 14, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Not old news here

Any time the name "Dr. James Andrews" is in a sentence or paragraph about a player, it ain't good.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rod Allen = The New Yogi Berra?

Did you catch what he said during Jason Kubel's at-bat?

"A lot of times, you'll see hitters that want to use a little bit of a heavier bat, but they want to take some of the weight out of it. Therefore, the end of the bat's cupped."

Wha... ?

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Huge Insult

Yogi was a great ball player which made him funny, and there is a video of Rod Allen on youtube chasing a pitcher through the outfield in a japannese baseball league, which makes him an idiot.

by jgrubbs on Apr 14, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another error comes back to bite

If Pudge catches that foul behind the plate, they're out of this inning without giving up a run.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha

Yesterday actually. Tasted like all the other roasts to me. They had a nice chocolate-desert roast back in like October-November I liked and they quit making it.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you see that?

Minnesota's shortstop gloved a ball that was hit deep in the hole. No, Everett didn't get to make a throw, but...

Have we seen Renteria do that this year? Can he anymore?

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

At this rate...

...I'll be paying more attention to the Red Wings tonight.

Will anything EVER go right for the Tigers? One dropped foul pop, and it' suddenly 2-0 Twinkies?

After Pudge's kick ass spring, I thought he might have a resurgence, but he's been...Well, awful at and behind the plate. Not quite how you want to start your campaign for a new contract.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Mario: "something brewing"

He's following our starbucks conversation and sending secret messages that he feels our pain, I KNOW it!

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it?

What would be great was if there was some sort of commercial that let us know about that...

It'd be even better if a Kid Rock soundalike sang along.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn that song

spent one week in MI and that song is firmly stuck in my head. It's sharing residence with "the Braves Play Here" song (sung by a guy I thought was Shawn Mullins, but wasn't) on local TV down here

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 14, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pudge

He had an excellent opportunity to make up for the error there. Blurgh.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Whats the teams scoreless streak at now?

by jgrubbs on Apr 14, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Thats ok

Im sure they are just conserving those runs for the dog days of summer

by jgrubbs on Apr 14, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

These 2 weeks

is just like 2006 when Shelton hit 9 HRs. Only the exact opposite in every conceivable way.

by tbliggins on Apr 14, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha

I miss Chris Shelton, anyone know where he is these days, is he still in the minors?

by jgrubbs on Apr 14, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

There must be something about these two weeks that just allows Shelton to rake

by jgrubbs on Apr 14, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He will always remail a mystery to me. The way he hit in the summer of 05 & April 06 I thought he would have a long, long career in Detroit. And then he completely lost it. Too bad, I liked watching him hit back then.

by tbliggins on Apr 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fire in the dugout

Hopefully, that was some sort of voodoo ritual to warm up the bats.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

that'a'boy, Grandy

If you cant' light a fire under your teammate figuratively, literally will do fine, too.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

1-0 Red Wings

Glad to see one Detroit team handling the pressure of living up to high expectations...

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the update, Big Al

My DVR is all booked up, between the Tigers game and 'The Big Bang Theory.'

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

My provider doesn't even carry versus.

by LosTigres on Apr 14, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll have to make a choice shortly too...

As I'll be recording How I Met Your Mother. I think the Wings are going to take precedence over the kitty cats. Then again, who knows what will happen as my suddenly FUBAR'ed Charter cable box thinks it's currently 6:46 PM?!

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

go Bondo

Nice 6 pitch inning

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 14, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

...

a TWO out hit, too bad nobody can do that when someone is actually on base!

by Zappatista on Apr 14, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Granderson

Anyone heard a date that he might be back w/ the club?

by tbliggins on Apr 14, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Cabrera

C'mon, man - that was a routine throw to third base, and he sailed it. It has to be the way he's gripping the ball or something.

And I'm sure everyone was thrilled to see Guillen jumping in the air for that throw with a gimpy hamstring.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

He looks good so far...

But I'm not convinced yet. He may be another Brent Clevlen.

Red Wings 1, Nashville 0 after one period.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least he isn't another Nook

by tbliggins on Apr 14, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

clete..

I am digging some Clete, he's fast but didn't look to good at the plate yesterday...

by Zappatista on Apr 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I am in class tonight

It looks like the same old song and dance tonight, at leat we are still in striking distance

by miggy4mvp on Apr 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Renteria

You know, I don't understand the venom some people have had (other than like, Mlive syndrome) toward him. He's one of the few bright points this season and singlehandedly kept the Tigers out of two no-hitters.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Expectations?

Maybe fans expected him to be a superstar, between what was traded to get him and moving Guillen over to 1B.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

will a Tigers hit ever get by a RF or SS again?

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Jacque Jones

DP or K at this at-bat?

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 14, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

DP

Jacque Jones eats poo

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 14, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

seconded

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been trying to not watch the Tigers game to save myself the frustration, but I just can't stop watching

by jgrubbs on Apr 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

I'M DONE. I'M FUCKING DONE. THIS IS THE LAST TIGER GAME I WILL EVER WATCH.

Go Tigers

by Tony K on Apr 14, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

my new plan to save the tigers

Relegate the entire fricken team to AAA and call up Toledo to the A.L. Central. They can't possibly do worse.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

This is depressing...

I write about and watch sports to have FUN! This is not fun. Not fun at all.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Everyday

I tell myself its still early, the Tigers just need to win today and start themselves a little winning streak. Then everyday I find myself in the same place, complaining about their crappy play. I think its an addiction.

by jgrubbs on Apr 14, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Rally time

Ok, this is the moment when the season gets turned around, here we go!

by pfuhrmeister on Apr 14, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

OUCH

did not like the way Guillen was hobbling one bit.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Ow, ow, ow!

Guillen is laboring on that hamstring, man. I thought he was going to be thrown out at home. But he made it. 5-4 ballgame!

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Holy crap,,,

Guillen looked gimpy as all get out rounding 3rd. I can understand why Renteria sacrificed himself on the basepaths. Should he even be playing?

2-1 Wings late in the 2nd.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Tough call

Guillen DID drive in two runs in that inning...

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bring in Inge

Carlos needs the rest more than Brandon

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 14, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guillen

Is probably our best hitter right now. That being said - we wouldn't want to lose him for any extended time, so I'd hate to see him make it worse.

by ViolaHalo on Apr 14, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

omg

who knew seay was still on the team?

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

And

more garbage from the bullpen.

by ViolaHalo on Apr 14, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

R & R

Cabrera and Guillen need an extended period of rest. Might as well do it while we're losing. Otherwise, they're going to play at 80 percent all season.

by bradm on Apr 14, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Crusher

Seay was their best reliever thus far. And he couldn't get out of that jam. Rally officially squelched.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Rally.

And for the tenth game in a row, the Tigers give up runs the very next inning after scoring runs.

This team cannot do anything right. And I mean anything.

by bradm on Apr 14, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Seconded.

I have reverted to incessant cussing.

by ViolaHalo on Apr 14, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the boos rain down...

Has the pen allowed EVERY inherited runner to score?

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Paws

Even he's leaving.

"Get outta my face, kid!"

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

The way I see it

The Tigers put together their best two out rally of the season so far. I don't expect the bullpen to work miracles, but if those bats can finally wake up, there is still hope.

by pfuhrmeister on Apr 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

As shown in figure thus.

by pfuhrmeister on Apr 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, we'll take it!

Knock it over the fence with your glove! We don't care! It's a home run!

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

That was my first thought as well...

The HR off of Canseco's noggin.

3-2 Wngs, early in he 3rd.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that was strange!

I'll take any run at this point, even a glove aided home run!

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

BP tomorrow

Rod said he would be taking live BP tomorrow

by Zappatista on Apr 14, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Great - thanks.

I only have the gamecast up.

by ViolaHalo on Apr 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whats up guys, just gettin off work, whats happenin in the game...we playin like shit still or bullpen pitching a no hitter (yea right)? Give me good news

by rossjohnson87 on Apr 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Good news?

These guys finally scored some runs.

Bad news? Errors and the bullpen wiped that progress out.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

gamecast

mlbtv is sucking it hard right now...keeps going out.

by Zappatista on Apr 14, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Sheff coming around?

Second straight game he's turned on a ball and hit it hard to left.

Hey, it's something.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

is that is what 'it'

is supposed to look like? I had forgotten!

by Zappatista on Apr 14, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

This is all I've been waiting for

The cover has finally come off the bats. Yeah, we'll give up 10 runs a game, we just need to score 12!

by pfuhrmeister on Apr 14, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

and then...

the twink's start to look like the tig's! error!

by Zappatista on Apr 14, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

And that was a pretty lazy looking ground ball by Cabrera, too.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, tough call

Guillen's bat is too important to sit. He just can't run.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

a reward

For putting up with this game, suddenly it's getting exciting!

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

guillen

i agree ian, it's too bad we have 3-4 dh's on the team. then he wouldn't have to play in the field, not that first is too bad, but...

the butler bulldog........pat neshak!

by Zappatista on Apr 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

WIN THIS GAME

They cannot let this comeback go for nothing.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

FIRE!

So good to see some EMOTION!

by Zappatista on Apr 14, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this the turnaround?

Only takes one game like this to turn the whole season.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

WHOOOO

I think my heart skipped a beat on the throw

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow!

That catch was a let-the-air-out moment, but Pudge brought it all back.

Love that aggressiveness!

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You TV guys

How close was that play at the plate?

by pfuhrmeister on Apr 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

not that close

The throw was just enough offline so you could tell Pudge would be safe. But it was still kinda close.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Neshek

Getting this against Neshek is impressive, too. I'd have to look it up, but I think he was pretty successful against the Tigers last year (as he was vs. all teams, really).

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

2.35 ERA

In fifteen innings against the Tigers

by pfuhrmeister on Apr 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

SAFE!

HOLY SCHNIKES! The Tigers have come back!

But it's gonna be Rollercoaster time folks. It's not over yet...

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

CLETE!

I'm back on the Cult of Clete bandwagon!

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by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

CULT?

Ian, how short lived can the reverse effect be?

by Zappatista on Apr 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn...

Wings lose, 5-2. BAH!

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently so...

But if the Preds were going to take a game, this was the one.

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by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you

About to get engrossed in my book for the next 5 minutes.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

any one like the beastie boy's?

"heart attack man" spend all your money on your life insurance plan!

by Zappatista on Apr 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder how many fans...

Gave up on this game after Seay's ugly inning?

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I went back and forth, wings to tigers

Then being most of a baseball guy, settled in with the Tigres. So glad I did.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 14, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i did

went to the gym and worked out and came back to a win...I'd much rather miss a miracle comeback than had suffered through another loss

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 14, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn...

I guess a 1-2-3 inning from Jones was to much to ask.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

WOW

That's all I have to say.

by pfuhrmeister on Apr 14, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

That was one ugly save...

But it was still a save!

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Apr 14, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

GREAT Finish

Though I might still have to kill Todd jones :) NICE CATCH Rayburn...

by Tigsfan on Apr 14, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

should have spent my money

on my insurance plan..

hopefully this turns the tide

by Zappatista on Apr 14, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Unbelievable.

I'll be the first to say that I never saw that coming.

by bradm on Apr 14, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Everyone

Remember what you were doing during that eighth inning. We might just need you to do it all again. For the rest of the spring and summer.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 14, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I was in class

missed the whole come back but saw the last three outs!!!

by miggy4mvp on Apr 14, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

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