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Game 8: Tigers (0-7) at Red Sox (4-4)

Detroit Tigers at Boston Red Sox, Apr 9, 2008 7:05 PM EDT


Jeremy Bonderman (0-1, 5.68) vs. Jon Lester (1-1, 3.38)

This is probably going to surprise you, but I wasn't much of an athlete in high school.  (I know, I know.  But really - I was more the scholarly, schlubby type.  Not a lot has changed, actually.)  However, I did play on a local recreation league basketball team.  And man, we were terrible.  Forfeits and mercy rules were relatively common outcomes.  It got to a point where we would begin a game, and my buddy and I would sit on the bench (no, I didn't start very often) and wonder how far we would fall behind.  And how big should the margin be before we call for a time-out?  10-0?  15-0?  20-0?

I wonder if that's sort of how the Detroit Tigers are feeling right now, with their 0-7 record and two more games against the defending World Series champion Boston Red Sox.  At what point does that dread creep in, that "ooooh, no" feeling?  Has that feeling settled in with their current record?  Or do they feel that way during a game when they fall behind by a run or two, and they still haven't gotten a hit?  Maybe they don't feel that way at all, and that's the difference between being a good team and a collection of athletic wanna-bes.

Last year, I'd feel extremely confident about the Tigers facing a left-handed pitcher.  This lineup devoured lefties like Joey Chestnut scarfs down hot dogs.  But Mark Buehrle made the Detroit batters look bad on Sunday night, and Jon Lester's pitched very well in his last start.  He wasn't very good in his season debut, however, so maybe he has one of those good start/bad start patterns developing.  Or, you know, the Tigers could decide to start hitting like the Superfriends lineup that everyone made them out to be coming into this season.

Jeremy Bonderman made everyone giddy last week by pitching a 1-2-3 first inning.  (Kind of like how we all feel when Todd Jones throws a 1-2-3 ninth.)  He actually cruised through his first three innings until he ran into the Tiger-killing buzzsaw that is Alex Gordon's bat.  After that, it got a bit dicey.  Of course, if Bondo's teammates had scored any runs for him, whatever he gave up wouldn't have been an issue.

Short Hops:

  • ESPN.com's Rob Neyer points out the relative absurdity of Placido Polanco's errorless streak being broken up by Manny Ramirez's hustle.
  • Bartolo Colon's call-up to the Red Sox is on hold while he nurses a "tender" oblique.  Aren't tender obliques kind of what put Colon in his current career situation to begin with?
  • Big League Stew is wondering why there's such a slow trigger finger at FireJimLeyland.com.

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Starting Lineups

DETROIT

    1.  Ivan Rodriguez, C
    2.  Placido Polanco, 2B
    3.  Gary Sheffield, DH
    4.  Magglio Ordonez, RF
    5.  Miguel Cabrera, 3B
    6.  Carlos Guillen, 1B
    7.  Edgar Renteria, SS
    8.  Marcus Thames, LF
    9.  Brandon Inge, CF

BOSTON

    1.  Dustin Pedroia, 2B
    2.  Kevin Youkilis, 1B
    3.  David Ortiz, DH
    4.  Manny Ramirez, LF
    5.  Mike Lowell, 3B
    6.  J.D. Drew, RF
    7.  Jason Varitek, C
    8.  Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
    9.  Julio Lugo, SS

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

And here's a question for you, folks...

If you're in southeastern Michigan and have Comcast, what channel is tonight's Tigers game on (FSN Plus)?

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Got it!

Both Kurt and Billfer tell me the game is on channels 900 and 901 on Comcast.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid FSN Plus

Im at work until at least 8, and the TV here only gets regular FSN, so instead of the Tigers I get a meaningless Pistons game, not cool.

by jgrubbs on Apr 9, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Not swing at the frist pitch

so far, at least that is encouraging

by miggy4mvp on Apr 9, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn't Pudge again? Leading off again. After swinging at all 5 pitches he saw from the leadoff spot on Sunday.

by tbliggins on Apr 9, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are correct. Stuck at work watching on mlb gameday. Regardless, I hate Pudge leading off. He is the last player on the team I would ever bat leadoff.

by tbliggins on Apr 9, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got a feeling in the pit of my stomach

that the Tigers win tonight....or maybe it's just gas?

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 9, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep me posted

On whats going on, no broadcast, and gameday's messin up on me. Btw, Clete Thomas piss off Leyland or something, he's one of the few guys showing up lately.

by rossjohnson87 on Apr 9, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Clete

I assume he's not in the lineup because Cabrera and Sheff are healthy enough to play now, and Leyland would rather have Inge in the lineup then Clete

by jgrubbs on Apr 9, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the lefty

I think Clete's sitting against Jon Lester, too. He didn't play against Buehrle on Sunday, either.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strike 'em out, throw 'em out

That happened while I was having problems connecting via wireless. Maybe we're onto something, and I should disconnect again.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

The Mayor!

How dare he get a hit against the Tigers!

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

hey, Jeremy

This is NOT the first inning.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Polanco

Apparently, Placido would like to start a new streak in which he commits an error in each game.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

That was my first thought too. Can't believe the whole thing. Now the 2nd Inning and the bases are always full for the Red Sox. Sick

Greetings from Germany. Dirk

by Germantiger on Apr 9, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

I was right in the first place

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess Dontrelle has rubbed off on Bonderman

by jgrubbs on Apr 9, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Bases Loaded Walks

This is getting old. Grilli yesterday, Bondo today.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

insert assorted expletives here.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh

This is reminding me too much of UM's 0-2 start last year. Horrible, embarrassing losses to start the year. It's too bad the Tigs don't have ND on the schedule.

by tbliggins on Apr 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Good call

I was thinking a similar thing today. When was the last time I had this feeling... ?

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I can't decide which is worse: having to wait a week for redemption or losing every day.

by tbliggins on Apr 9, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what?

I will tolerate being beaten by Big Papi, Manny, or Youkilis. But not Julio Lugo. This is bordering on cruelty.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

How many ways can one team lose?

This is getting a little ridiculous, losing games because you cant hit, starters cant pitch, bullpen cant pitch, baserunning blunders, now they fall behind because their recording setting 2B suddenly decides to start comitting errors, is there anything else they can do?

by jgrubbs on Apr 9, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

shhhh

there are much worse ways we could lose....

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha sorry, its hard to see beyond the gloom and doom right now

by jgrubbs on Apr 9, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

A much, much needed double play

Still some damage done, but the Red Sox could've blown the game open right there.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Double Play, thank God. Could be much more damage.

Greetings from Germany. Dirk

by Germantiger on Apr 9, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Pudge

walks. LOL

Greetings from Germany. Dirk

by Germantiger on Apr 9, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Good sign?

Pudge just walked, dare I think that may be a good sign

by jgrubbs on Apr 9, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Savor it, because it won't happen often this year.

by tbliggins on Apr 9, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Polly still out of order

Greetings from Germany. Dirk

by Germantiger on Apr 9, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I know it was an out

but not a GIDP! times, they are a'changin'

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Just one big hit

C'mon. Just one. Quit flying out to Manny.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

does anyone have a rulebook handy?

both teams are allowed to score, right ?

i'm not remembering the rules incorrectly?

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess Granderson should have finished a little higher in the MVP voting last year.

by tbliggins on Apr 9, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guillen at 1B

Did Rafael Belliard teach him how to keep his foot on the bag?

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there a statistical category this team is not dead last in at this point?

by tbliggins on Apr 9, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

found one

SF has a lower OPS and the Yankees have a lower OBP!

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm... dunno. but

arizona has more HOME RUNS than the Tigers have RUNS.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe Leyland needs to go off

and get ejected to try to lite a fire under these guys

by miggy4mvp on Apr 9, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Guillen

should bat leadoff in lieu of Granderson/Clete

by tbliggins on Apr 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

YES!!!!!

about MFing time

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 9, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

RUNS SCORE!!

Would you look at that? Nice hit by Renteria to drive in two runs!

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

this guy's brave

Both of those coulda been strikes.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Question?

what does that number 2 mean to the right of DET on the top of my tv screen?

by miggy4mvp on Apr 9, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

OH BABY

There is joy in Tigertown!

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOO

HOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 9, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

YES!

Marcus! Marvelous! A two-run blast!!! Love that!

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

whew

i just scared both my dogs, some of my family, and most of the neighborhood with my screaming

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Rulebook

OK whomever had that rulebook handy needs to verify that hitting a HR w/ someone on base is allowed.

by tbliggins on Apr 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

oh!

That woulda been a thing of beauty.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Pudge with the glove!

That's, what, two guys he's thrown out tonight?

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch

Not too often 1 guy makes all 3 outs in an inning.

by tbliggins on Apr 9, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably the best game Renteria has had at Fenway

by tbliggins on Apr 9, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

So

have we all stopped breathing for the next three and a half innings or is it just me?

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I am afraid we will need more than 4 to hang on tonite

by tbliggins on Apr 9, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

dare I say it

This looks like an actual baseball game.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

So, I was on the phone...

And they're winning here. So do I get back on the phone, and not comment here? What do you guys think? (I did have that awkward moment where it was clear I wasn't listening when Thames hit that home run...)

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

PHONE!!!

Don't mess with a good thing!

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way...

I appreciate no one pointing out how I mistakenly had this as "Game 7," rather than Game 8. Another bad cut-and-paste. Oops.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

or possibly

that tell you about our powers of observation!

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'll call my mother

She asked me yesterday, by the way, "What do you write about the Tigers when they keep losing?"

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Call upstairs

Of course, I would be calling from her basement, while wearing pajamas, as us bloggers do.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

April in the D

I'm totally ready to blame the Tigers' losing streak on this damn commercial. (I know Kurt has his own thoughts on that ad/song.)

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

but they're not printable in a family blog.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, seriously

Who is this guy wearing the #23 jersey for Boston? Why is Lugo getting these hits?

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

YES!

Has a ball been hit right at a Tigers defender at ANY POINT during the last seven games?

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

infield defense

the tigers are starting to get some of it!

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Bunt, Bunt, Bunt

get those runners to second and third, nice sub Leyland

by miggy4mvp on Apr 9, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

All right then

That was a great bunt. Perfectly placed down the third base line.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

INGE-CREDIBLE!

The Tigers are getting the big hit tonight! A two-run single!

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

2500

A nice milestone for Pudge

by miggy4mvp on Apr 9, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Forget I said that

Still have that little problem with the double plays. Blurgh.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSN Detroit graphics

They had me scared there for a minute. The top of the screen still had "0 out" after Bautista got Ortiz out.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

That Sean Casey speed

Glad to see another team "benefit" from it. That was a slow-developing double play, but didn't matter with Casey chugging down the line.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

WHOOO DOUBLE PLAY

Sweeeet play , though I still root for Casey even though he's not a tiger. He always reminded me of Kirk Gibson.

by Tigsfan on Apr 9, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh Todd Jones

I don't care if the Tigs get even 10 runs this inning... if Todd is coming in, i'm still nervous.

by Tigsfan on Apr 9, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Clete is sweet!

We need to make some t-shirts for this guy.

"Clete's Crew"? What do you think? Any ideas?

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

hmm

Thomas' Cleats?

haha I suck at this.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is crazy

I almost feel like this is the bottom of the ninth in Game 6 of the World Series

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

SO TRUE

I couldn't agree more... Who knew i'd be on the edge of my seat on the 8th game of the season?

by Tigsfan on Apr 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey

when did FSN stop showing when/where people on the bases are... and I just noticed this.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a good day today.

by Krazzid on Apr 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

THANK GOD

This was the most proper way to finish that game... todd jones nearly killing us fans. Very apropos.

by Tigsfan on Apr 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

at last

our long national nightmare is over. Here's to pounding Tim Wakefield for win #2 tomorrow

"WOO HOO HOOOOO...HOO" - Rod Allen

by rock n rye on Apr 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

hanshin tigers

are a bit of an in-joke in my family. i have a hanshin jersey, and my dad has a hanshin tie.

by Krazzid on Apr 9, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

Didn't think the picture would be quite that big.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 10, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

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