Game 40: Tigers (16-23) at Royals (17-21)
by Ian Casselberry
on May 14, 2008 6:01 PM EDT
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Detroit Tigers @ Kansas City Royals
Justin Verlander (1-6, 6.43) vs. 
Luke Hochevar (2-2, 4.94)
Will last night's tough loss to the Royals linger with the Tigers in the second game of this series? It very well could if Detroit scores as few runs for Justin Verlander as they did for Nate Robertson. And for all the chatter about Verlander's struggles this season, poor run support has been a nagging issue. The Tigers have scored four runs total in his last three starts. How many starting pitchers could overcome that?
If Verlander only gets one or two runs tonight, he should trash a dugout heater like Mark Buehrle did last week in Chicago. Unless, of course, he wins. And he's pitched very well at Kauffman Stadium.
Luke Hochevar has had his own issues with run support, as the Royals have scored just one run in each of his losses this year. He wasn't great in his last start, however, giving up four runs in seven innings versus the Orioles. But in his two prior appearances, Hochevar gave up just three runs over 12 innings, looking like the type of pitcher who Kansas City selected first overall in the 2006 draft. According to our friend Sam Mellinger, Hochevar is also really good at Rock Band.
No Gary Sheffield in left field tonight, and Jason Beck reports that Jim Leyland won't be playing Sheff out there as much because of that bad shoulder. Geez, that move didn't last very long, did it? But Matt Joyce has been playing some good defense out there, and that's where he'll be this evening.
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Aftermath?
Is this what it has come to? Starting pitchers, you start to write the hops, but the deep depression is too much to overcome, and you can’t muster another stroke…..
by Zappatista on
May 14, 2008 6:35 PM EDT
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No blame, just some commentary…..a little attempt at humor to help brighten his mood!
by Zappatista on
May 14, 2008 6:51 PM EDT
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HA!
That did look like kind of an “eff it” post, didn’t it?
Actually, that was a placeholder that I typed up earlier today, and thought I’d be home before 6 p.m. to fill in the rest. Oops. Sorry about that.
But it might come to that, if this keeps up.
“Royals, Tigers, blargh.”
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 6:58 PM EDT
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Starting Lineups
DETROIT
1. Curtis “I need a hit” Granderson, CF
2. Placido “Renteria better not try that again” Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Matt “I play better defense” Joyce, LF
7. Marcus “Hey, I’m playing!” Thames, DH
8. Edgar “I thought I could make the play” Renteria, SS
9. Pudge “I love to swing and miss at the high strike” Rodriguez, C
KANSAS CITY
1. David DeJesus, LF
2. Mark “I own the Tigers” Grudzielanek, 2B
3. Alex Gordon, 3B
4. Jose Guillen, DH
5. Billy “Did I really go hitless last night?” Butler, 1B
6. Mark Teahen, RF
7. John Buck, C
8. Tony “I never would’ve tried that thing Renteria tried” Pena, Jr., SS
9. Joey “I can jump over a car, you know” Gathright, CF
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
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How about David "nobody F's with" DeJesus
for the Lebowski fans out there
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on
May 14, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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That nickname should stick to DeJesus like Pudge’s does to him.
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
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You pull that shit on me, pull out your piece on the lane…I’ll take it away from you, shove it up your ass and pull the trigger till it goes click.
Jesus!
You said it man!
awesome….my favorite flick of all time, this could be a theme tonight…
by Zappatista on
May 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
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Manny
Did you see that “Manny being Manny” catch today?
by pfuhrmeister on
May 14, 2008 7:59 PM EDT
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I did!
Running up the wall, then throwing the runner out? Awesome.
And did he sort of “high five” a fan, as well?
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
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Yeah
It was the high-five in the middle of the play that made it “Manny”
by pfuhrmeister on
May 14, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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I still have major scoreboard envy
Just like the girls say. Bigger is better.
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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Can't see it
Got the Celtics on the tube. And right now, I don’t know which is more disappointing, the Celtics or the Tigers.
by pfuhrmeister on
May 14, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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Didn’t the Celtics already win the NBA title? I thought they were given the trophy before the season.
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
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Think positive
Hochevar is kinda mediocre. Verlander should be a stud. Billy Butler is a butcher with a glove and should botch at least one play tonight. We’re gonna win tonight.
by ThaWalrus9 on
May 14, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
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the dude
I’m with Zappatista, I’d like to see a Lebowski theme throughout this thread. If the Tigers win tonight, it will because of “the dude”. It can be a tradition when the Tigers need a win.
Can you dudes abide?
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
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i just made a white russian
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on
May 14, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
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I don’t want to talk about having a rash, so bad…but ya know me. I can’t complain.
Just give me a win tonight!
by Zappatista on
May 14, 2008 8:19 PM EDT
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No Eagles
I hate the effing Eagles man, time for some Creedence.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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Some runs would really tie this thread together.
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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Nice One, Ian
Top notch there.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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Granderson
anybody else think maybe granderson needs to visit the hens for a bit to get his head straight?
by HavocRox on
May 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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Granderson
I wonder if it’s in his head or if his hand is bothering him? Either way he needs to get it going.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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he just really seems to be pressing a lot
by HavocRox on
May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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Verlander
Hitting about 94 on the gun. Needs a few more on that fastball.
by pfuhrmeister on
May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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Verlander
Verlander is throwing rocks tonight. Mark it, Dude.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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What
was guillen trying to psych Renteria out?
by Zappatista on
May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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Roll Call
Just realized I forgot one for last night’s recap. Sorry, guys.
Must have been that deep depression Zappatista was talking about.
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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ya, I enjoy the threads as I watch on my laptop, while the special lady watchers her shows. So were in the same room (nothing to complain about), she’s watching what she wants (ntca) and I don’t have to engage in senseless conversation. and that is why she is my special lady and not my lady friend.
by Zappatista on
May 14, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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Cabrera
Nice cut there by Miguel (sarcasm).
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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wow
horrible half hearted swing from miguel “who cares i already got paid” cabrera
by HavocRox on
May 14, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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Thought you'd all enjoy this fun stats I saw today
The Tigers’ record in games when they score 4 or fewer runs: 0-19.
by ThaWalrus9 on
May 14, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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they haven’t went to the doctor yet. but they must go. he’s a good doctor. and very thorough….
by Zappatista on
May 14, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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I hope nothing comes up tonight that inspires anyone to use some of Tara Reid’s quotes from the movie.
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
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Please not again....
If the Tigers lose tonight I might cry. I shouldn’t need to remind anyone that….
Strong men also cry.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
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i think we all have cried a lot this year
by HavocRox on
May 14, 2008 8:40 PM EDT
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Feeling lost
Never having seen that movie
by pfuhrmeister on
May 14, 2008 8:40 PM EDT
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If they win tonight...
It could come up frequently.
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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nice
I’ll be impressed if they get out of this inning without giving up a run… crosses fingers
by Tigsfan on
May 14, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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crap.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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Anyone mind if I do a “J”.
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May 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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Damned if you do...
Is Guillen in position to make a play if he’s not in for the bunt?
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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Hey Verlander
phones ringing dude. hey dude, your phones ringing…Thank you CHUCKY.
by Zappatista on
May 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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That fence was rigged
Bet that door doesn’t give way if Gordon tries to make a play in foul territory.
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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now they’ve done us the favor of getting rid of TWO base runners this inning…
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May 14, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
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It seems strangely appropriate...
for a Viagra ad to run after the Royals take a 2-0 lead.
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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My wife
That’s her bread and butter – she’s a Unix sys admin at Pfizer.
by pfuhrmeister on
May 14, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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I’m glad that you went on to explain that one…
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May 14, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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congrats to granderson thought maybe selig would allow them to pitch to him with a beach ball
by HavocRox on
May 14, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
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Why do they pop up so much?
Well Dude, we just don’t know.
by Zappatista on
May 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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Clutch?
Everyone remember how in 2006 it was Craig Monroe, in 2007 it was Magglio and Polanco… who is it now?
by Tigsfan on
May 14, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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right now it seems like clutch = whomever comes up from AAA
by HavocRox on
May 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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Holy Lord!
LeBron already has 23 points and it’s not even halftime.
by Grant E. on
May 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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They’re only down six. Not too bad.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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Cavs seemed to be running away with it a second ago. Boston mad a run. Rondo hit a couple threes and they cut into the lead.
by Grant E. on
May 14, 2008 9:05 PM EDT
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Rod Allen
Seems enamored with “nice, tight” breaking balls tonight.
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May 14, 2008 9:05 PM EDT
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So that’s what Cabrera gets paid for? Bloop singles? Gotta love this guy. His at bats are awful and it seems like a lot of his hits are like that, lucky.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 9:14 PM EDT
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Well man…ya know….that’s just like your opinion….man
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May 14, 2008 9:16 PM EDT
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FSN's Trivia Question
Steve Busby threw two, I’m pretty sure Saberhagen threw one but don’t know the other one. Anyone else?
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May 14, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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ya well, the KC guys are taking Joyce to court for running so hard down the line….kangaroo court.
yep, i am having to deal with that….what channel are the white sox on….
by Zappatista on
May 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT
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Damn
My sister-in-law killed off my bottle of 15 year old single malt Scotch!!
by pfuhrmeister on
May 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT
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Sounds like your sister-in-law knows what to get you for your birthday.
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May 14, 2008 9:23 PM EDT
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KC No-Hitter
Colborn threw one. I don’t know about the Busby one(s).
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 9:20 PM EDT
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by Grant E. on
May 14, 2008 9:22 PM EDT
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FASCIST!!
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 9:22 PM EDT
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Pitch Counts
I haven’t looked into this at all yet, but doesn’t it seem like Verlander just needs a lot more pitches to get outs this year?
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 9:28 PM EDT
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Celtics were down by 14
Now ahead by 1. Hope springs eternal. Just like El Tigres.
by pfuhrmeister on
May 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT
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Sadly for you...
neither team will top the Pistons
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT
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Fun time
I just want to see the Celtics and the Pistons go at it.
by pfuhrmeister on
May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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Yeah, that’d be a great series.
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May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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Pudge
might be the easiest player to get out in all of baseball.
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May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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WTF is going on here!?!?
I’m about to snap! SCORE! PLEASE!!!!
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May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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What we're going to call this team
I think this 2008 team will be known as The WTF Tigers.
The Gashouse Gang, Murderer’s Row, the Go-Go Sox, the Miracle Mets… The WTF Tigers.
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May 14, 2008 9:37 PM EDT
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This is driving me crazy!
We’re 1 1/2 games into a series with the ROYALS and they’ve scored 2 runs. I am going crazy.
by ThaWalrus9 on
May 14, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
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Was that
a two strike high fastball to Pudge?
by pfuhrmeister on
May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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You can guess where it goes from here. He fixes the cable?
by Zappatista on
May 14, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
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Don’t be fatuous, Zappatista.
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May 14, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
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Five innings
Three singles.
You can’t beat Little League teams that way.
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May 14, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
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Yeesh
Everything has to be an effing tragedy with the Tigers.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT
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i am the walrus?
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
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May 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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hahha
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May 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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I am the Walrus?
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May 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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you are...
like a child who walks in on the middle of a movie…
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May 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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RE: Ian's suggestion to Verlander.
Tigers need to trash something.
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May 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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wez belieevez in nothing
not even a k….
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May 14, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
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I think...
I’m experiencing some unchecked aggression.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
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Man...
Hell of a job by Gathright running that ball down.
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May 14, 2008 9:52 PM EDT
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I think
I’m experiencing a 2004 Tigers flashback
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May 14, 2008 9:52 PM EDT
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you want a toe,
gathwright will get you toe, with nail polish.
by Zappatista on
May 14, 2008 9:52 PM EDT
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Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!
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May 14, 2008 9:53 PM EDT
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Now it's official
That’s the closest thing to a rally we’ve had in a while
by pfuhrmeister on
May 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
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TWO MEN ON BASE!!!!
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May 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
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Joyce
He has had some really good mature at bats the last two nights…pretty impressive.
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May 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
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time is now
if we don’t get to the starter now we’ll trouble with that pen. we need runs now!
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May 14, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
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Thames Time
its going to be a strikeout or HR
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May 14, 2008 9:59 PM EDT
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that was a fringe call.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
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F* sympathy! I don’t need your fn’ sympathy, man, I need some f*g runs!
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May 14, 2008 10:03 PM EDT
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shut the f up, donny.
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May 14, 2008 10:08 PM EDT
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For a 2-0 game...
This isn’t exactly scooting along, either.
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May 14, 2008 10:06 PM EDT
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Can you say Back-to-back quality starts for the Tigers?
I knew you could
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May 14, 2008 10:07 PM EDT
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Again
Tigers are 0-19 when they score 4 or fewer runs. Looks like we’re going down that road again…
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May 14, 2008 10:08 PM EDT
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Maybe...
After the game the Tigers will swing by the In and Out Burger to lift their collective spirits.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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They are playing like
a bunch of F*n amateurs
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May 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT
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HIGH HEAT IS COMING
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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Too obvious, I suppose.
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May 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
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That’s my friend, she just came over to use the shower.
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May 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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that could be the theme for...
i will stop now. sorry…
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May 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
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Poor Verlander
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May 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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This is obscene
No way Verlander should be losing this game.
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May 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
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He should be smashing something in the dugout right now.
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May 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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Yeah he should
He’s the only Tigers capable of hitting anything right now.
by ThaWalrus9 on
May 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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Just checked my fantasy line for the night, looks quite a bit like another line
3 for 29…ughhh
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May 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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I hear that
Last night I had Troy Percival give up a solo HR to Hideki Matsui. That cost me a win (I had Edwin Jackson) and a save (from Percival). Plus, my opponent had Matsui.
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May 14, 2008 10:27 PM EDT
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I'm confused
You intentionally walk the guy and then try to pick him off? Concentrate on the batter you wanted to face!
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May 14, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
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Ian...
I’m counting on you coming up with an appropriate Lebowski picture to sum up this game on your next post.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
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Maybe I’ll title the post, “Shut the fuck up, Donny.”
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May 14, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
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Perfect.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 10:36 PM EDT
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now or never
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May 14, 2008 10:38 PM EDT
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Of... course.
Ground into a double play. Kill the rally. I hate life.
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May 14, 2008 10:39 PM EDT
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wwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhattttttttttttt???????
I just got home from work, and when I left i saw it was 2-0…. and 6 innings later and its still 2-0… do you blame the tigers? or the coaches? Poor hitting today, poor pitching the other day…. jeeeezzzz typical problems of a losing team. DAMN DOUBLE PLAY!!!!
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May 14, 2008 10:40 PM EDT
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Shit Team.
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May 14, 2008 10:41 PM EDT
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Cabrera
andddd a weak hit by Cabrera… pathetic
by Tigsfan on
May 14, 2008 10:41 PM EDT
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The D-Backs Series
Will it be possible for the Tigers to actually lose more than three games in that series? Somehow, I think it’s possible.
by Ian Casselberry on
May 14, 2008 10:50 PM EDT
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Goodbye sweet prince.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
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7 runs
In 5 games against the Royals this year, the Tigers have mustered 7 runs.
by ThaWalrus9 on
May 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
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Soria
is dynamite. They should try putting him in the rotation.
by ThaWalrus9 on
May 14, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
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McClendon wil be looking for a new job soon.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
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So much for that
I should have gone to bed two innings ago.
by pfuhrmeister on
May 14, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
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strikes and gutters.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 11:01 PM EDT
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mostly gutters.
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by spotstarters on
May 14, 2008 11:01 PM EDT
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did we used to have the royals number?
Totally reversed now, what’s that, 5 losses in a row to that squad?
by ahtrap on
May 14, 2008 11:02 PM EDT
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with 2 of the 6 shutouts
against KANSAS CITY ROYAL pitching
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on
May 14, 2008 11:03 PM EDT
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For the love of God.
I never thought it would get this bad.
I am glad I wiil be at work during tomorrow’s game.
by rook34 on
May 14, 2008 11:08 PM EDT
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