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Game 40: Tigers (16-23) at Royals (17-21)

Detroit @ Kansas City


Justin Verlander (1-6, 6.43) vs. Luke Hochevar (2-2, 4.94)

Will last night's tough loss to the Royals linger with the Tigers in the second game of this series?  It very well could if Detroit scores as few runs for Justin Verlander as they did for Nate Robertson.  And for all the chatter about Verlander's struggles this season, poor run support has been a nagging issue.  The Tigers have scored four runs total in his last three starts.  How many starting pitchers could overcome that?  

If Verlander only gets one or two runs tonight, he should trash a dugout heater like Mark Buehrle did last week in Chicago.  Unless, of course, he wins.  And he's pitched very well at Kauffman Stadium.

Luke Hochevar has had his own issues with run support, as the Royals have scored just one run in each of his losses this year.  He wasn't great in his last start, however, giving up four runs in seven innings versus the Orioles.  But in his two prior appearances, Hochevar gave up just three runs over 12 innings, looking like the type of pitcher who Kansas City selected first overall in the 2006 draft.  According to our friend Sam Mellinger, Hochevar is also really good at Rock Band.

No Gary Sheffield in left field tonight, and Jason Beck reports that Jim Leyland won't be playing Sheff out there as much because of that bad shoulder.  Geez, that move didn't last very long, did it?  But Matt Joyce has been playing some good defense out there, and that's where he'll be this evening.

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Aftermath?

Is this what it has come to? Starting pitchers, you start to write the hops, but the deep depression is too much to overcome, and you can’t muster another stroke…..

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 6:35 PM EDT   0 recs

Can you blame him?

Go Tigers

by Tony K on May 14, 2008 6:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No blame, just some commentary…..a little attempt at humor to help brighten his mood!

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 6:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

HA!

That did look like kind of an “eff it” post, didn’t it?

Actually, that was a placeholder that I typed up earlier today, and thought I’d be home before 6 p.m. to fill in the rest. Oops. Sorry about that.

But it might come to that, if this keeps up.

Royals, Tigers, blargh.”

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 6:58 PM EDT   0 recs

Starting Lineups

DETROIT

1. Curtis “I need a hit” Granderson, CF
2. Placido “Renteria better not try that again” Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Matt “I play better defense” Joyce, LF
7. Marcus “Hey, I’m playing!” Thames, DH
8. Edgar “I thought I could make the play” Renteria, SS
9. Pudge “I love to swing and miss at the high strike” Rodriguez, C

KANSAS CITY

1. David DeJesus, LF
2. Mark “I own the Tigers” Grudzielanek, 2B
3. Alex Gordon, 3B
4. Jose Guillen, DH
5. Billy “Did I really go hitless last night?” Butler, 1B
6. Mark Teahen, RF
7. John Buck, C
8. Tony “I never would’ve tried that thing Renteria tried” Pena, Jr., SS
9. Joey “I can jump over a car, you know” Gathright, CF

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 7:03 PM EDT   0 recs

How about David "nobody F's with" DeJesus

for the Lebowski fans out there

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on May 14, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That nickname should stick to DeJesus like Pudge’s does to him.

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You pull that shit on me, pull out your piece on the lane…I’ll take it away from you, shove it up your ass and pull the trigger till it goes click.

Jesus!

You said it man!

awesome….my favorite flick of all time, this could be a theme tonight…

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Manny

Did you see that “Manny being Manny” catch today?

by pfuhrmeister on May 14, 2008 7:59 PM EDT   0 recs

I did!

Running up the wall, then throwing the runner out? Awesome.

And did he sort of “high five” a fan, as well?

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

It was the high-five in the middle of the play that made it “Manny”

by pfuhrmeister on May 14, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I still have major scoreboard envy

Just like the girls say. Bigger is better.

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 8:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Can't see it

Got the Celtics on the tube. And right now, I don’t know which is more disappointing, the Celtics or the Tigers.

by pfuhrmeister on May 14, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Didn’t the Celtics already win the NBA title? I thought they were given the trophy before the season.

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Think positive

Hochevar is kinda mediocre. Verlander should be a stud. Billy Butler is a butcher with a glove and should botch at least one play tonight. We’re gonna win tonight.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 14, 2008 8:13 PM EDT   0 recs

the dude

I’m with Zappatista, I’d like to see a Lebowski theme throughout this thread. If the Tigers win tonight, it will because of “the dude”. It can be a tradition when the Tigers need a win.

Can you dudes abide?

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 8:17 PM EDT   0 recs

i just made a white russian

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on May 14, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t want to talk about having a rash, so bad…but ya know me. I can’t complain.

Just give me a win tonight!

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No Eagles

I hate the effing Eagles man, time for some Creedence.

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 8:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Some runs would really tie this thread together.

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 8:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Nice One, Ian

Top notch there.

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Granderson

anybody else think maybe granderson needs to visit the hens for a bit to get his head straight?

by HavocRox on May 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Granderson

I wonder if it’s in his head or if his hand is bothering him? Either way he needs to get it going.

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 8:22 PM EDT   0 recs

he just really seems to be pressing a lot

by HavocRox on May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Verlander

Hitting about 94 on the gun. Needs a few more on that fastball.

by pfuhrmeister on May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT   0 recs

Verlander

Verlander is throwing rocks tonight. Mark it, Dude.

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT   0 recs

What

was guillen trying to psych Renteria out?

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT   0 recs

Roll Call

Just realized I forgot one for last night’s recap. Sorry, guys.

Must have been that deep depression Zappatista was talking about.

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT   0 recs

ya, I enjoy the threads as I watch on my laptop, while the special lady watchers her shows. So were in the same room (nothing to complain about), she’s watching what she wants (ntca) and I don’t have to engage in senseless conversation. and that is why she is my special lady and not my lady friend.

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cabrera

Nice cut there by Miguel (sarcasm).

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 8:30 PM EDT   0 recs

wow

horrible half hearted swing from miguel “who cares i already got paid” cabrera

by HavocRox on May 14, 2008 8:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Thought you'd all enjoy this fun stats I saw today

The Tigers’ record in games when they score 4 or fewer runs: 0-19.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 14, 2008 8:34 PM EDT   0 recs

they haven’t went to the doctor yet. but they must go. he’s a good doctor. and very thorough….

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 8:35 PM EDT   0 recs

I hope nothing comes up tonight that inspires anyone to use some of Tara Reid’s quotes from the movie.

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 8:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Please not again....

If the Tigers lose tonight I might cry. I shouldn’t need to remind anyone that….

Strong men also cry.

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT   0 recs

i think we all have cried a lot this year

by HavocRox on May 14, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Feeling lost

Never having seen that movie

by pfuhrmeister on May 14, 2008 8:40 PM EDT   0 recs

nice

I’ll be impressed if they get out of this inning without giving up a run… crosses fingers

by Tigsfan on May 14, 2008 8:42 PM EDT   0 recs

crap.

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Anyone mind if I do a “J”.

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Damned if you do...

Is Guillen in position to make a play if he’s not in for the bunt?

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Hey Verlander

phones ringing dude. hey dude, your phones ringing…Thank you CHUCKY.

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT   0 recs

HERNANDEZ, THAT IS….

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That fence was rigged

Bet that door doesn’t give way if Gordon tries to make a play in foul territory.

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT   0 recs

now they’ve done us the favor of getting rid of TWO base runners this inning…

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 8:47 PM EDT   0 recs

This aggression

will not stand man.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 14, 2008 8:48 PM EDT   0 recs

It seems strangely appropriate...

for a Viagra ad to run after the Royals take a 2-0 lead.

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 8:49 PM EDT   0 recs

My wife

That’s her bread and butter – she’s a Unix sys admin at Pfizer.

by pfuhrmeister on May 14, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I’m glad that you went on to explain that one…

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

2-23…..

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 8:57 PM EDT   0 recs

congrats to granderson thought maybe selig would allow them to pitch to him with a beach ball

by HavocRox on May 14, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Why do they pop up so much?

Well Dude, we just don’t know.

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Polanco

another fantastic at bat….

by Tigsfan on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Clutch?

Everyone remember how in 2006 it was Craig Monroe, in 2007 it was Magglio and Polanco… who is it now?

by Tigsfan on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM EDT   0 recs

right now it seems like clutch = whomever comes up from AAA

by HavocRox on May 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Celtics

Appear to be done.

by pfuhrmeister on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Holy Lord!

LeBron already has 23 points and it’s not even halftime.

by Grant E. on May 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They’re only down six. Not too bad.

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 9:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cavs seemed to be running away with it a second ago. Boston mad a run. Rondo hit a couple threes and they cut into the lead.

by Grant E. on May 14, 2008 9:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Rod Allen

Seems enamored with “nice, tight” breaking balls tonight.

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 9:05 PM EDT   0 recs

So that’s what Cabrera gets paid for? Bloop singles? Gotta love this guy. His at bats are awful and it seems like a lot of his hits are like that, lucky.

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 9:14 PM EDT   0 recs

Well man…ya know….that’s just like your opinion….man

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 9:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

FSN's Trivia Question

Steve Busby threw two, I’m pretty sure Saberhagen threw one but don’t know the other one. Anyone else?

by Grant E. on May 14, 2008 9:15 PM EDT   0 recs

quisenberry?

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 9:16 PM EDT   0 recs

They really are. Rubbing it in big-time.

I love that scoreboard.

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ya well, the KC guys are taking Joyce to court for running so hard down the line….kangaroo court.
yep, i am having to deal with that….what channel are the white sox on….

by Zappatista on May 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Damn

My sister-in-law killed off my bottle of 15 year old single malt Scotch!!

by pfuhrmeister on May 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT   0 recs

Sounds like your sister-in-law knows what to get you for your birthday.

by Ian Casselberry on May 14, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

KC No-Hitter

Colborn threw one. I don’t know about the Busby one(s).

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 9:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Lebowski Hochevar: I don’t like his jerkoff name, I don’t like his jerkoff face, I don’t like his jerkoff behavior. I don’t like him. Jerkoff.

by Grant E. on May 14, 2008 9:22 PM EDT   0 recs

FASCIST!!

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 9:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Pitch Counts

I haven’t looked into this at all yet, but doesn’t it seem like Verlander just needs a lot more pitches to get outs this year?

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 9:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Ha!

Love the new pic. And I don’t have any information regarding pitch counts but it certainly seems that way.

by Grant E. on May 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Celtics were down by 14

Now ahead by 1. Hope springs eternal. Just like El Tigres.

by pfuhrmeister on May 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Sadly for you...

neither team will top the Pistons

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fun time

I just want to see the Celtics and the Pistons go at it.

by pfuhrmeister on May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, that’d be a great series.

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pudge

might be the easiest player to get out in all of baseball.

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by spotstarters on May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT