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USA Today: Tigers have a 'Stale and stagnant' atmosphere

In today's McPaper, MLB writer Bob Nightengale visits our struggling Detroit Tigers. He gets more than his fair share of money quotes. Here's the Tigers' fearless leader, the Marlboro Man.

"I'm embarrassed. We all are," Leyland says. "I really can't believe this is happening, to be honest with you. "I'm not going to throw any players under the bus, but at the same tine, I'm not going to b———- them either. You have to tell it like it is. "And we have played h————. I say we, not them, because I'm responsible."

As ByB is free of blue language (unlike my own  blogs , where I tend to vent profanely on occasion), you can use your own imagination as to what Leyland said to emphasize his frustration. As you can obviously tell, he ain't happy. Neither is the team. The most relevant player quotes follow.

Brandon Inge:

"We used to pride ourselves on beating those high-dollar teams," says utility man Brandon Inge, who lost his starting third-base job after Cabrera's arrival. "We wanted it more. We played hard. We hustled. We ran everything out. We fought for nine innings. "Now we're that team we used to beat. I don't want to get into it, but it's just different now."

Gary Sheffield:

"It's so relaxed in here," says Sheffield, who is hitting .189 with two home runs and eight RBI as he struggles with right shoulder pain. "I don't know if that means that we don't have a killer instinct or we're just a real loose team. I've never seen anything like it."

Nightengale also notices the Tigers have a strange lack of...something. Chemistry maybe?

Sheffield looks around the clubhouse. It is two hours before game time against the Arizona Diamondbacks, and video is being shown of Dan Haren, the opposing pitcher. No one is watching.

And a lack of unity...

The Tigers managed to show team unity one game last weekend when they took Renteria's suggestion and hiked up their socks, even playing music before the game. The Tigers won. Yet instead of repeating the ritual the next day, Ordonez and left fielder Marcus Thames played with their pants low, and the music was off.

I know these are little things, but when taken as a whole, it really makes you wonder about the Tigers. Where is the urgency? Where is the fire? Where's the team whose motto once was "9 innings?"

Nightengale also spoke with the traded Jason Grilli. After self- aggrandizing himself by claiming he and Sean Casey were a big reason for the once good chemistry in the room, he does say something quite pertinent.

"Talent-wise on paper, that is one of the greatest teams assembled, but the atmosphere was stale and stagnant. You kept losing, losing and losing, and everybody became distant. I have good friends over there, and I feel badly for them."

"Stale and stagnant" is as good a way of describing this Tiger team as any. In fact, a quote from one of the acknowledged team leaders, Carlos Guillen, comes across as making excuses for their poor play. The problem? There was too much pressure!

"We never said we were going to win 100 games," Guillen says. "All we said was that we have a good team with good players. That was the (sports) media and fans doing the talking. "You don't win games looking good on paper. You've got to do it on the field. "That wasn't fair to us."

I'm sorry, but the pressure of expectations comes with the territory of being a highly paid player on a big market franchise. If Guillen thinks this is pressure in Detroit, try playing in New York or Boston. The Tigers would have been pilloried by now in those markets. 

Fair or not, when you are being paid millions to play a game, there are going to be expectations. Big time expectations. To complain about it just comes off as whining.

So if you read between the lines, I think you can safely infer the following...

  • Leyland has no answers.
  • Inge is saying the Tigers no longer work hard and hustle.
  • Sheffield doesn't see an urgent need to win.
  • Grilli believes there's a very bad locker room mix.
  • Guillen whines there's far too much pressure on the Tigers to win.

From reading this article, you can't help but conclude the Tigers are broken. Badly, and maybe irreparably, broken. Something needs to change, and change soon. Unfortunately, no one seems to know what that "something" is.

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Stale and Stagnant

It’s got a nice ring to it doesn’t it…

by busta on May 20, 2008 3:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Chemistry

is one of the most overused bs terms in sports. The only thing that makes “chemistry” is winning. The only thing that deflates “chemistry” is losing. That and Barry Bonds. The Tigers have played all year the way that Pistons often play – disinterested w/ the feeling that they can flip the switch when they need to. The difference is that the Pistons actually can flip the switch most of the time. That is why I advocate more playing time for guys like Thames/Joyce/Raburn – guys that for the most part still have to prove themselves.

by tbliggins on May 20, 2008 3:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Couldn’t agree more. Lets stop blaming this slump on a lack of “unity,” “chemistry,” “cohesion” or any other intangible catch phrase we can come up with.

Fact of the matter is that they’re not playing that well and it isn’t because they’re not all friends and it isn’t because they don’t all know the same jokes. No one knows why this is happening just like no one will know why they – eventually – snap out of it.

Also, doesn’t anyone find it curious that the quotes came from:

1. The guy whose had a chip on his shoulder for losing the starting 3B job.
2. The guy whose shoulder is so screwed up that he might be toast and isn’t producing.
3. The guy who pitched poorly out of the bullpen for two seasons, has a chip on his shoulder about how the fans treated him and was eventually traded.
4. The guy who was moved to 1B because of poor defense and then moved to 3B because of poor defense.

Lets not let a rough month and a half turn us all into Yankee fans.

by MacRae on May 20, 2008 5:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ughh

Its driving me crazy, just seeing so much wasted talent and not seeing this team I’ve been dreaming of since December 2007 play the way they should.

Btw, nice work holding it down Al, haven’t been on here as much as I’d like to, don’t have internet or cable where I’m at right now…though it prolly keeps me in better spirits than I would be watching the Tigers puke out every night.

I haven’t written off the season yet, still a lot of baseball to be played but eh it is frusterating being a tigers fan right now.

by rossjohnson87 on May 20, 2008 3:51 PM EDT   0 recs

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