Game 45: Mariners (18-27) at Tigers (17-27)
by BigAl on May 20, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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Seattle Mariners at Detroit Tigers, May 20, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
The Tigers begin a 6 game homestand tonight by taking on the 2nd most disappointing team in baseball, the AL West cellar dwelling Seattle Mariners.
Pitching for the Mariners is Carlos Silva (3-2, 4.17 ERA). Silva, a free agent pickup from the Twins, got off to a fast start as a Mariner, winning 3 of his first 4 starts. He's been winless since, with 2 losses and 3 no decisions..
On the mound for the good guys is Justin Verlander (1-7, 6.05 ERA). It's been nearly a month since the Tigers' supposed "Ace" has won a game (beating Texas on 4/22), losing his last 4 starts. If the Tigers are going to do anything this season, like win a few games, Verlander has to get untracked.
The Mariners arrive in Detroit after a series win against the only team worse than themselves and the Tigers, the Padres.
As we all know, the Tigers are playing uninspired baseball, haven't won a series in over 2 weeks, and are coming off of a demoralizing 1-5 road trip.
What we have are a pair of teams expected to contend, and neither have lived up to preseason expectations. Someone is going to get a much needed boost from a series win. Between you and me, I'm not all that confident it'll be the Tigers.
Short hops:
For the Seattle POV, SB Nation Mariners blog Lookout Landing has a series preview. They are fully anticipating the Mariners righting their season against the struggling Tigers. To be honest, I can't blame them...
Here's opposing views on the "What to do with Galarraga?" question:
The AOL Fanhouse falls on the side of leaving him in the rotation, going so far to say the Tigers "deserve a swift kick in the nuts" if Willis takes Galarraga's spot.
At The Detroit Tigers Weblog, Billfer, always the voice of reason, runs Galarraga's numbers, and determines he's "been a little lucky" and "his ERA is going to climb." Galarraga may remain on Detroit's roster, but it won't be as part of the rotation.
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Tonight's starting linuups
Seattle Mariners:
I. Suzuki cf
A. Beltre 3b
J. Lopez 2b
R. Ibanez lf
J. Vidro dh
R. Sexson 1b
K. Johjima c
W. Balentien rf
Y. Betancourt ss
Detroit Tigers:
C. Granderson cf
P. Polanco 2b
G. Sheffield dh
M. Ordonez rf
M. Cabrera 1b
C. Guillen 3b
M. Joyce lf
E. Renteria ss
I. Rodriguez c
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leyland responds to the USA Today article
Let’s just say he’s not happy with ANY of the quoted players…
Leyland rips ex-Tiger Grilli’s comments: ‘He didn’t pitch very well in Detroit’
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cue the smokes
I think he probably needed a pack or two after that. Let’s hope some of that fire comes through in the way the guys play tonight. 6 games in a row at home, it’s as good a time as any to pull things together…
by busta on May 20, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
holy bleep
Leyland’d reply was awesome. WXYT.com has the audio.
by MackAveKurt on May 20, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was HELLLA entertaining!
Leyalnd is NOT happy.
“I don’t want to hear any weak s* from Jason Grilli!”
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
That was salty… and spot on.
by russkiejedi on May 20, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Verlander didn't get the bleeping message
but it’s nice that Pudge did
by MackAveKurt on May 20, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Lord...
I turn on the game JUST in time to see Verlander give up a home run. At this rate, NBA’s dropping of the lottery ping pong balls tonight will be more entertaining!
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's how they got the run
I was wondering
by busta on May 20, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cali
I am soooo glad that I took this trip, the Tigers games are over before I even realize that they start! Quite refreshing not to go to bed pissed off.
by Zappatista on May 20, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where you at in Cali?
I was there a week ago, watched the Tigers/Red Sox games on TV about 4:30!
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ventura/Oxnard area
beeeeuuutiful…
by Zappatista on May 20, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, Mario, maybe maggs gets lumped in with the rest
because he leads the team in GIDP?
by MackAveKurt on May 20, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PUT A NAME TO IT!
The audio is f* heeeeeelarious.
Look in the mirror!!! That is WEAK s*!
awesome.
by Zappatista on May 20, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
weak excuse
look in the mirror…
guys, it’s my fault, my batting average is lower than sheff’s this year…
by busta on May 20, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FreeP
Maybe it’s just the way it loaded due to me hijacking someones wireless, but it’s like 14 font and BOLD. Were they trying to capture something?
by Zappatista on May 20, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lovely
1 1/2 drive home today (Thanks Atlanta) and the Tigers are already down to the frickin Mariners
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on May 20, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boston
I was in a suburb of Boston today at a meeting, it took me well over two hours to get home. I did drive right past the new Gahden where the Pistons will be tonight. That game has to be more interesting than watching the Tigers find a new way to lose.
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There we go
a misplay that helps the Tigers
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on May 20, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Marquette
Took me about 2 minutes to get home. Fortunately it was snowing elsewhere in the U.P.
by MackAveKurt on May 20, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been in SC for 4 years now
It’s already too hot to go outside, snow would be real nice now….
by busta on May 20, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pasties
I don’t think anyone is actually supposed to like them. They’re just something yoopers sell to see if they can get downstaters to eat the leftovers.
by MackAveKurt on May 20, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here we go boys, lets keep this going!
Go Tigers
by Tony K on May 20, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Renteria
It’d be nice if this is the start of him getting hot again.
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 in one inning...
I think I may turn off the game now and sleep happy…
by busta on May 20, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what's that?
Verlander has decided to be the ace after all?
by MackAveKurt on May 20, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bonderman disease
He just had the weak first inning syndrome
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheffield, the master of deception
A pop out to short – I never saw THAT coming!
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Evening everyone. I wouldn’t want to be Inge today. Yikes. Skip was pointing the cigarette in his direction (along with Mr. Guillen).
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Constructive?
What bothered me the most about everything that I read is that nothing constructive was said, only observations about what’s wrong.
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and sheffield was back in the 3 hole
so nothing really changed. yet
by MackAveKurt on May 20, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, the article was written because it was an easy one to write-this is a team that is messed up, with a large price tag to boot. We’re not sure that someone didn’t say something constructive and the writer left it out becasue it didn’t support his thesis.
Not saying that is the case. But it’s a possibility.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Matt
Close your eyes and pretend the bases are empty.
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES!!!
that’ll do Edgah!
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on May 20, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry everyone
I’ve been staying out of this room to try to change the Tigers’ luck. With that 3 bagger, I’m out for the rest of the night!!!!
by ThaWalrus9 on May 20, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seattle pitching
cure for the common offense
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on May 20, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GRANDY!!!!!! again...
Nice hit by Placido too…
by busta on May 20, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My Mariner fan co-worker
Promised me that our pitchers would throw gems and the hitters would be taking batting practice… I strenuously disagreed.
Looks like he, as usual, was right.
by russkiejedi on May 20, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah well, Sheff. Wonder if there’s a sportswriter in that dugout.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bulls in top 3 of lottery
They were too talented to be in the lottery this year anyways…
by busta on May 20, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if D’Antoni wants the Bulls job now.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah, it's all about the cash
Heck of a payday with the knicks…
by busta on May 20, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 K's for JV
is he back or are the M’s that bad?
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on May 20, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point, I’d be happy to watch JV strike out 6 Bad News Bears.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so what you're saying is
the tigers would be in third place in the AL West?
by MackAveKurt on May 20, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maggs goes yard
It’s seems like it’s been months since his last tater.
About time this team started to hit, and hit a ton. The question is, can they sustain it?
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Viva Venezuela!!!
MIggy adds another hit
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on May 20, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They traded uni's tonight
The M’s play strangely like the Tiges have all year…
by busta on May 20, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Respect
Gentlemen, before tonight’s game, let me just say that I respect you all as Tigers fans AND as Pistons fans. If the Celtics win, I PROMISE not to say anything offensive to any of you.
Tip o’ the cap.
Peter
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I concur
(Broke my promise about coming back into this room) I too am a Celtics fan
by ThaWalrus9 on May 20, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You would think the Celtics would know to not play that song with the Pistons around.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, it wouldn’t be a Tigers game without a particularly inventive double play. Well done, Matt-you’re officially on the team!
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just looked at the updated averages. Our 3 hitter is hitting .183. That is absolutely horrifying.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
now look at his contract and his shoulder
Stephen King level horror there
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on May 20, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm starting to see a trend
when I look at the contracts of many Tigers:
One year too many.
by Brian8603 on May 20, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also respectfully disagree
Sheff’s may have been 2 years too long.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too bad
we couldn’t have signed him for May through August of 2007 only.
by ThaWalrus9 on May 20, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Respectfully diasgree
Barry Zito (0-8 with a 6.25 ERA and a 1.90 WHIP) in the second year of a 7 year, 128 mill contract is Stephen King level horror.
by ThaWalrus9 on May 20, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got to tip your cap
Ichiro is one hell of a player. Nearly gunned Grandy down at home earlier.
by ThaWalrus9 on May 20, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No doubt. One of the players really worth your money to go and watch, particularly defensively.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pistons
Not really doing all that much yet, do you think they know the game started
by busta on May 20, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Offensive foul?
I didn’t think so.
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another quality start for the pitching staff!
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that would be a real nice trend… EDGAR, alright, way to break out…
by busta on May 20, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EDGAR!
Just needs a double for the cycle!
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now I'm just scared
Pudge is even hitting tonight… It seems like a really long time since that happened
by busta on May 20, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Put the exclamation point on it
Dirty Curty
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only one Tiger hasn't been on base
Our man Sheff
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where'd that power come from
Placido, sneaky strong
by busta on May 20, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Polly will do that every now and then. Has to be the exact pitch, but he can drive the ball on occasion.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is getting sad
Sheff’s got be hitting .180 now.
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sheff’s a proud guy. This has to be killing him.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would it have killed JV to throw one more inning? Maybe I’m just used to complaining.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you're used to complaining
Verlander’s trhown a ton of pitches in most of his starts. I’m fine with his being pulled with a big lead.
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good pitches
He hasn’t thrown a ton of good pitches in most of his starts, but hey, I’m just happy we’re playing well…
by busta on May 20, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitch Count
Verlander threw 104 pitches. Definitely was time to take him out.
by ThaWalrus9 on May 20, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough. The Lester kid spoiled me last night.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a BoTox fan
But it’s hard not to feel really good for Lester
by busta on May 20, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
pistons trailed 0-8 when I had the game on. rallied to a 13-12 lead when I watched the tigers. then trailed 20-13 when I turned it on.
by MackAveKurt on May 20, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stick with the Tigers!
I sense a trend…
waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com
by BigAl on May 20, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Celtics 22, Pistons 17 after 1
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
doing the math
it is pistons 15, celtics 2 when i don’t watch.
by MackAveKurt on May 20, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Public Enemy #1...Sheff?
with Grilli and Jacque Jones gone, he’s by far the easiest target
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on May 20, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
It’s hard to defend someone 39 years old who’s hitting .183. AND hitting in the 3 hole.
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inge may also be a candidate, depending on whether we all back Leyland after today’s explosion. His comments were pretty out of line today.
by rook34 on May 20, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok save some for the next few games fellas
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on May 20, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers have 8 extra-base hits
The Mariners have 7 total
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on May 20, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shut this one down. For the first time in way too long, I don’t have to make a black slash in sharpie on my Tiger’s pocket schedule!
Go Tigers
by Tony K on May 20, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
32-32 in Boston, 5 min left in the half
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Never enough runs
Not after that 6-0 first inning lead against Minnesota
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is one word that describes this game for me:
cathartic
by ThaWalrus9 on May 20, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's nice to have a relaxing game where the Tigers actually play well
rather than bitch and moan over their ineptitude.
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
all the stress and angst has been released.
by ThaWalrus9 on May 20, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the bullpen has been less than impessive tonight...
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone
needs to make sure Rapada stops sitting next to Todd Jones. His pitching is rubbing off on Clay!
by ThaWalrus9 on May 20, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Celtics up 1, 41-40, at the half
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PLEASE
Let’s just get two more outs and go home with a win.
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wait, cathartic?
maybe 20 minutes ago!
by MackAveKurt on May 20, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sigh
it was a great feeling for those 20 minutes
by ThaWalrus9 on May 20, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on now!
At this rate, they’ll have Jones warming up!
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And he's coming into the game...
Good God damn Lord.
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much for a feel good game, huh?
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we'll feel good when it's over
and we can watch the pistons in peace.
by MackAveKurt on May 20, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No lead is safe
Imagine how Justin feels watching this
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
beer
I’m going to get one now… It was going to be a celebration beer, now it’s more like a worry brew
by busta on May 20, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've switched over to Jameson's now
It’s more of a worry drink than beer is
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Jameson's left
and maker’s mark this close to the Derby just doesn’t feel right… Way to finish it up Jonesy…
by busta on May 20, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitch count
Over 170 for the Tigers.
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see
The crappy bullpen pitching in a game where it doesn’t bite the Tigers in the ass.
by ThaWalrus9 on May 20, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whew...
Jones does his job.
Tigers win, 12-8, in a game that had no reason to be that close.
On to the 2nd half of Pistons – Celtics.
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by BigAl on May 20, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ridiculous game
Screw the basketball, I’m off to bed after that fiasco. Good luck to Pistons fans AND Celtics fans.
by pfuhrmeister on May 20, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Call me crazy
but I’m crazy encouraged by this performance and think this might get them kick started.
by ThaWalrus9 on May 20, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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