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Game 51: Tigers (21-29) at Angels (30-22)

Detroit Tigers at Los Angeles Angels, May 26, 2008 9:05 PM EDT


After a 4-2 homestand (though losing 2 of 3 to the Twins left a sour taste in our mouths), the Tigers head out on a west coast road trip that could make or break their season. 

The Tigers play 3 games each against the California/Anaheim/Los Angeles Angels, the Seattle Mariners and Oakland A's. We were witness to how awful the M's are, but the Angels and A's are fighting for 1st place in the AL West. No matter the teams you play, any west coast trip is fraught with danger. For a Tigers team struggling to right their ship, that last place I want them is on the left coast. Bad things happen out there man, bad things...

Unfortunately, the trip begins with what's not exactly a comforting pitching matchup.

Hoping to stave off bad things for the Tigers will be Kenny Rogers (4-4, 6.66) (6.66?! Talk about a bad omen...) Rogers is 3-1 in his last 5 starts, but his ERA has been above 6 for most of the season (it's actually gone up over his past 3 starts), and he has yet to pitch more than 6.2 innings in '08.  Expect the Tigers' pen to get getting ready by the 5th inning.

Facing The Gambler is Jon Garland (5-3, 4.34), who always seems to be tough on the Tigers, as his career 13-6 record (8-2 since 8/04) against them attests. Garland has pitched well recently, as he's 2-0 with a 2.25 ERA for the month of May.

Hope everyone is having a wonderful Memorial Day! Oh yeah, one more thing.  Go Wings! Go Pistons!

Short hops:

For the POV of the opposition, visit SB Nation's Halos Heaven.

The Freep's Tiger beat writer, Jon Paul Morosi , illuminates us to the fact acquiring  high priced veterans isn't the only way to build a World Series winner. He thinks the Tigers may have made a few mistakes in putting together this season's roster. My thoughts? Duh!

At the News, Lynn Henning delves into the Tigers' pitching staff's biggest issue. They are issuing walks at a disturbing rate.

With MLB's amateur draft drawing near, Baseball America has posted their first mock draft. They have TCU pitcher Andrew Cashner going to the Tigers at 21st overall. Cashner fits the Tigers' mold: Big (6' 5"), with a high 90's fastball.

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Tonight's lineups

Detroit Tigers:
C. Granderson cf
P. Polanco 2b
G. Sheffield dh
M. Ordonez rf
M. Cabrera 1b
C. Guillen 3b
M. Joyce lf
E. Renteria ss
I. Rodriguez c

California/Anaheim/Los Angeles Angels:
M. Izturis ss
G. Matthews Jr. cf
V. Guerrero rf
T. Hunter dh
G. Anderson lf
M. Napoli c
C. Kotchman 1b
B. Wood 3b
S. Rodriguez 2b

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by BigAl on May 26, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

first game I've gotten to watch in a while

Hopefully the Tiges make it one I can stand to leave on.

by busta on May 26, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, let’s hope we can get the Gambler some support early. The Angels scare me to death.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Wings are completely outclassing the Pens.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh boy. Even worse than a leadoff walk. A leadoff error by our 1B/3B/DH.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Kenny

He got the DP ball, Matthews is still fast I guess..

by busta on May 26, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

there we go

Vlad isn’t still fast…

by busta on May 26, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

there you go, Kenny.

he hasn’t been able to get the big outs much this season.

by LosTigres on May 26, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

smoked

Carlos scorched that one.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 26, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

ballsy move

Matthews has a good arm, likely would have had him if the throw would’ve been online…

by busta on May 26, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugghh....

Runner on 2nd. Nobody out. No run.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

too many times so far this year

It seems like we can’t make the easy plays to get runs this year

by busta on May 26, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on Gambler. Time for some magic here.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Need some runs for Kenny quickly. He won’t be able to get out of these jams all night.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

whew

I agree, time to put a couple on the board…

by busta on May 26, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Nobody wants to pitch to Magglio right now.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

c'mon boys

we have to get a run here, right?

by LosTigres on May 26, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Unreal. All we had to do was put a ball in play and he couldn’t do it. Hard to get mad at Carlos as he’s been hitting well, but that wasn’t good.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

That makes me want to go to bed. Edgar fought him hard, but couldn’t get him in.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

The Wings

just went up 3-0 and I think it’s safe to say they’re up 2-0 in the series.

by LosTigres on May 26, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, that was a quiet at-bat. Garland is tough.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Kenny is hanging tough.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm not watching the game...

Raburn replacing Sheff? What’s up with that?

by FLATigersFan on May 26, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm…Sheffield sits for Raburn. Wonder if the shoulder blew.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

damn these nailbiters

the Angels’ bullpen is better than the Tigers’ they need to get a lead quickly…

by ThaWalrus9 on May 26, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I keep getting this sinking feeling about how this will end. I hope I’m surprised.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like Kenny is still out there.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Guillen has got to get off of third base. Immediately. 2 errors in one night, this one where we really, really needed an out. Look out.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

If Inge is not in the game next inning at 3rd, DD needs to really ask Jim some questions. I’m tired of the protection of Guillen. He can’t be at third in a close game. He’s given away at least two outs tonight.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Take it easy on him

As Big Al pointed out a few days ago, the guy has switched positions twice in 12 months. Besides, the game is still scoreless so the errors haven’t cost them.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 26, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Up to Magglio now. Will they pitch to him?

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh. Another runner at third with less than 2 out. No run.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice play by Carlos

Now if he can get a hit in the next at bat, he’ll be fully vindicated.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 26, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Another double for Vlad. C’mon Miner. Sinkerball low.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Miner, auditioning to save his job when the unnamed twosome return from Lakeland, comes up huge. Somebody hit one out, please. For Detroit. Just wanted to clarify.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Miner's no 8th inning pitcher

in my mind, but he has done a decent job. He’ll be a good 7th inning guy if if the lakeland twins ever come back north.

by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as Guillen will drive you crazy in the field, he is a fighter at the plate. Got himself on with a walk after going down 0-2. C’mon rookie.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Finally watching the Tigers after Wings & Pistons both win

I flip to the game in the 8th, and it’s 0-0?

My God, can’t anyone hit the God damn ball? Jesus, watching the Tigers is becoming a form of torture.

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by BigAl on May 26, 2008 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

It has been beyond torture tonight. Rogers and Miner have fought hard, but we have had three runners standing on third with less than two out (one with none out) and couldn’t get them home.

Garland was excellent as well.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I respect your ability to watch the whle game

I was on the pistons for most of the night, flipping over on commercials and halftime.

by Kurt Mensching on May 27, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to say you guys watching this all the way thru deserve some sort of recognition for going above and beyond the call of fandom.

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

This game has driven me to near distraction. Now on to the 10th. Guess I can’t go to bed now.

The big question-who pitches the 10th? The Caped Cruceta? Jonesy? Is Antonio McDyess available? From what I understand, he was pretty tough tonight.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

And then Guillen is erased stealing 2nd base. This team can drive one insane.

by rook34 on May 26, 2008 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

The look on Miner's face

was priceless. Talk about a sigh of relief…. Nice play by Magglio.

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Walking Polly to get to Raburn. No way you let Raburn hit here. Thames, someone.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I love Raburn, but putting him up here against K-Rod is not a good idea.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

And he goes down swinging...

I have a bad feeling about this game.

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

true

the mighty mighty santiago was available!

by Kurt Mensching on May 27, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Raburn is simply overmatched in that situation. I’d have preferred Thames or even Santiago. Maybe even Inge.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Heart of the Angel lineup coming up. Who is going to pitch?

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

For God’s sake. Someone please get Guillen off third in this situation.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

And to the plate steps Tiger-killer Torri Hunter.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

2-0 count. Uh-oh.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

All right Pudge. Keep it in front of you and throw him out.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Watch a squeeze bunt here. The Angel skipper loves situations like these.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

How to you throw a wild pitch on an intenional walk?

HOW?

Jesus, I hate this team.

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I tell you Al

I PMed “Does Leyland want to lose this game?” when I saw Dolsi warming up. Nothing against the kid. But wow, he was way over his head tonight.

by Kurt Mensching on May 27, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was just no way to possibly predict that.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is the weirdest damn game I’ve seen in awhile. And that’s saying something, given the team involved.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

The Tigers didn't dodge a bullet

They dodged a missile.

That was just…bizarre..

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

For God’s sake, Maggilo, pound one.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

this game is crazy

although, if the Tigers were going to lose in a wacky way, last inning would’ve qualified. Not crazy about inning #2 for Dolsi…

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, he got through it somehow. Let’s see if we can at least get a baserunner this inning.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

3 up, 3 down.

Another edition of Bullpen Roulette. Who’s in?

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh, you’re kidding. 3rd inning of Dolsi, with the top of the order.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

well, I say this

I don’t blame Dolsi for this. 6 outs should have been his task for the night.

by Kurt Mensching on May 27, 2008 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I toitally agree!

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t blame any of the pitchers for this, not even Seay for what may happen.

This would go directly on the offense who can’t execute getting a runner home from 3rd with less than 2 outs.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point...

You can’t really blame the pitching staff one bit when they throw 11 shutout innings.

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

3-0

Please, at least make them hit in the winning run.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 1:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Christ almighty

Seay walks in the winning run. I really hate this team right now.

Despite the ending, this game is all on the offense.

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

you summed it up.

I’m really really disliking this year’s version of the Tigers

by Kurt Mensching on May 27, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's the worst part

Save for the return of Zoom and Rodney, this IS our Tigers. And their return isn’t going to do a bit of good when the offense is this stinking bad.

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Structurally flawed

This team was built to hit doubles and homers. When it doesn’t, it’s a bad baseball team, as those runs were supposed to mask the flaws-particularly defensively.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is a horrible way to lose a baseball game.

I am putting myself on a forced stay from this baseball team for at least one day.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

At least Seay could have thrown one damned strike. That was horrible.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 1:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Leyland

made a number of tactical errors in this game, but he’s not responsible for getting runners home from 3rd. My only real gripe is leaving Raburn in to face K-Rod in a clutch situation. Raburn is out 99 times out of 100 in that situation.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Terrible

Lack of scoring with men on base kills me. Giving up 3… 3!!!! 4 pitch walks (not even including intentional walks) is ridiculus near the end of a game… Im pissed that I let myself believe the Tigs could win this game…

by Tigsfan on May 27, 2008 1:10 AM EDT reply actions  

What do you Tell Kenny? or Verlander?

Two guys who couldn’t be asked to pitch much better… only to get completely let down by our offense… just pisses me off as a fan of this team.

by Tigsfan on May 27, 2008 1:13 AM EDT reply actions  

It appears

that all sensible people have called it a night. Only thng to say about this is that for two excellent starting pitching performances in a 48 hour span, we have no wins to show for them.

That pretty much tells us where we’re at with this team.

We’re one Bondo explosion from officially being back in a tailspin.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 1:30 AM EDT reply actions  

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