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Game 52: Tigers (21-30) at Angels (31-22)

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Detroit Tigers @ Los Angeles Angels


The Tigers fanbase is revolting. They are quite unhappy with the team as well! 

I'm sorry, it's an old joke, but I felt the need to add a levity to ByB after last night's true gut punch of a 1-0, 12 inning loss to the California/Anaheim/Los Angeles Angels. The Tigers wasted Kenny Rogers best outing of the year, unable to mount any semblance of an offense, and were shut out for the 8th time in 2008.

It was the sort of loss where we could look back in a few months, and say, "Remember Bobby Seay giving up the 4 pitch walk off walk to the Angels? That's when the season ended." 

Just how bad was the loss? Check out the reactions in the game thread ...

BigAl (that'd be me!): Jesus, I hate this team.

rook34: This is what we have. For better, or for what it looks like, for worse.

The Walrus9: a rhyming word that starts with F

MackAveKurt: I’m really really disliking this year’s version of the Tigers.

I'll let rook34 have the last word on what was a very disturbing loss.

rook34: We’re one Bondo explosion from officially being back in a tailspin.

Indeed. Let's try an move on from this latest debacle, shall we?

Tonight, the man the Tigers send to the mound to stop the tailspin is Jeremy Bonderman (3-4, 4.58). He's facing the Angels Ervin Santana (6-2, 3.24 ERA). 

I really don't have much to say about tonight, other than the Tigers, and the fanbase, could really, really, really use a win. Seriously, just win a damn game.

I'll let Todd Jones finish off today's game thread post, as he's quoted not wanting to get on Jim Leyland's bad side. Apparently Leyland's not in the mood to be trifled with...

“Look, this team needs to realize that this guy took on Barry Bonds. He’d run every one of us out of town. You’re just better off if you don’t cross him. And I think he relayed that message 100 percent. You just don’t mess with him. It’s not that hard. He doesn’t ask a whole lot.”

Short hops:

It's a day of mourning for this Detroit fan. As Mike reminds us at The Daily Fungo, 28 years ago today, the Tigers traded 1st baseman Jason Thompson. Mike, I feel your pain. The big 1st sacker was one of my all time favorite players too.

At Mack Avenue Tigers , in an attempt to beat blogger's block, Kurt's answering questions about the Motor City Kitties submitted by his readers. He's looking for more questions, so fire away!

Eno compares the Tigers' all or nothing offense to a pinata at Where Have You Gone, Johnny Grubb?

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Too ridiculous to not be true

Well, as an introduction to how things may go tonight, the Freep posted a comment from Leyland that blames Guillen’s fielding troubles on a particularly nasty case of hemmorhoids. They are so bad, in fact, that according to the skipper, they need to be lanced. It’s in the Freep article detailing Sheff’s inevitable return to the DL.

There are so many humorous routes to take this one, I can’t pick just one.

Oh, I’ll try. This tells you what Leyland thinks of Inge. Inge doesn’t play in front of a guy who can’t play his position. That guy also happens to have a raging case of hemmorhoids.

Wouldn’t want to be Inge right about now.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speaking of which

The Tigers’ MLB page has the official word: Sheff to the DL, Jeff Larish to the majors. Guillen will DH, Inge will play 3rd. Not sure how much of a look Larish will get, but he’s earned one….

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The season.

At what point is it okay to stop watching every game in the hopes that this is the game when they turn everything around?

Have we passed that point?

by bradm on May 27, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I passed that point long ago. After the game they came back to beat Papel and the Sawx, I swore up and down that the turning point had arrived.

Oops. I have no idea why I’m still watching.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For my part

I was more excited and engrossed in the 2008 Tigers than any sports team I’ve ever followed. Even went to see them in Lakeland. After every painful loss, I tell myself to take a few days off, but sure enough the next night I can’t help myself. Just take tonight. I watched the last game where Ervin Santana pitched against the Tigers. He had dominant stuff. I’ll bet he doesn’t give up more than 2 runs and probably strikes out 7, and yet, I am compelled to watch…

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hope is hard to come by

But that doesn’t mean I’m going to stop watching. There is always something to watch for and hope for, no matter how bad the season goes, like trying to make sure they didn’t set a futility record in ‘03.

by pfuhrmeister on May 27, 2008 9:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tonight's lineups

Detroit Tigers:

C. Granderson cf
M. Joyce lf
P. Polanco 2b
M. Ordonez rf
M. Cabrera 1b
C. Guillen dh
E. Renteria ss
I. Rodriguez c
B. Inge 3b

California/Anaheim/Los Angeles Angels:

M. Izturis ss
G. Matthews Jr. dh
V. Guerrero rf
G. Anderson lf
T. Hunter cf
C. Kotchman 1b
J. Mathis c
B. Wood 3b
S. Rodriguez 2b

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Joyce...

Ugh. Anyone else thinking the Joyce experiment is wearing off?

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

Much like Clete, he looked good at first, but there’s a reason they aren’t highly regarded prospects…

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bottom 1

Here we go. Hold your breath.

C’mon Bondo. Need a really good start.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The streak ends!!!!

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on May 27, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

no real new ground. Not playing everyday still makes Brandon cry.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 10:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Playing in 41 games out of 50...

is pretty damn good for a reserve player.

by Brian8603 on May 27, 2008 10:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've never seen a .220 hitter get this much ink...

You know, maybe Inge would be starting here, or even in another city, IF HE WASN’T HITTING .2FREAKING20!

Instead, let’s keep complaining to anyone who will listen in the media.

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 10:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Brando cannot hit a baseball consistently at the major league level.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 10:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That article is a load. The press loves Inge because he talks to them on a team where most guys don’t. He and Grandy are the most reliable quotes. No surprise that they are the most favorably written about.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 10:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Curtis needs to get going.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good thing

The Tigers got 2 hits back to back (with one of them going out of the park). I still stand by my prediction that Santana doesn’t give up more than 2 runs and strikes out 7, he’s got nasty stuff.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeesh. Quick inning there.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yup

both pitchers are dealing.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 10:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Way to go, Bondo. Let’s get hiim some more runs now.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man

Ervin Santana is dominant.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Angel Announcers throwing around the "p" word in reference to Bondo

Stupid Rex Hudler and his attempts at jinxing the Tigers

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on May 27, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, Bondo. Bear down and pitch through it now.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Starting to fall behind hitters. C’mon, Bondo.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Swung 3-0. Nice.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bondo bends but doesn't break

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on May 27, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Inge!

Despite his lack of hitting and his diarrhea of the mouth, I think he should play most days just for that defense.

Mack Avenue Tigers

by MackAveKurt on May 27, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With Sheff on the DL...

Inge will likely play every day. His being out of the lineup gives the Tigers much more flexibility.

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 11:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is the problem with Inge

If all these “Inge still not that happy being on the bench” articles would stop, the Tigers fanbase would go back to loving him. Dude is a great defensive player.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You have completely isolated the problem. It’s too bad (in his opinion) that he’s not playing every day. But it’s time for him to stop talking about it.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's one of the laws of the baseball universe....

Make a great defensive play, lead off the next inning with a hit. Simple as that.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone else think that perhaps we send Curtis here?

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, that didn’t work. I like the move though.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so do I

Santana has been tough, a third run would really help matters.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 11:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1 and 2 spots are killing us

3 Ks for Joyce tonight. Not trying to beat the kid up, but he hasn’t looked good at all the last few days. Still, he’s a good defensive LF and we’ll need him out there tonight.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Big stretch here for Bondo

Runner on. Heart of the order coming.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Phew!

Way to go, Bondo.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, caught Vladdy looking

he usually swings at everything

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on May 27, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can’t remember anyone who swung at more stuff out of the zone (except maybe Pudgy) than Vlad. Well, maybe Kirby Puckett.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That pitch was right over the plate...

Vlad won’t swing unless it’s out of the strike zone!

Big K for Bondo!

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Santana is just killing us.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes he is

The Tigers have had THREE hits (and no walks). They are very lucky, like I said earlier, that they were able to string 2 of those hits back to back, and one went over the wall.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 11:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on the plus side

no runners stranded tonight

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on May 27, 2008 11:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

At least Miggy made him throw a few pitches. That was a good battle.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

77 pitches through 7 for Bondo

night off for the bullpen perhaps?

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on May 27, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fingers crossed.

Unless he labors in the 8th, I think he gets a crack at the 9th.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 11:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They'll call on the pen

when the Tigers need to issue a 4 pitch walk.

Seriously, I’d like to Bondo go deep into the game, especially after the pen going 5 innings last night.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on May 27, 2008 11:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game has been a pleasure to watch

Pitching duels are more fun when your team is out in front. Let’s cross our fingers for an insurance run.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I should be in bed...

but what’s two more innings?

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on May 27, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fun fact

Ervin Santana’s birth name was Johan Santana. He changed it when he was in the minors after another guy named Johan Santana got famous. How odd a coincidence is that?

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unless...

Santana makes a big mistake…2 will probably have to be enough. The guy has been great.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh. Not a good start to the 8th.

by rook34 on May 27, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All splitters

He has to throw all splitters. It’s a nasty pitch and hard to elevate. Get a ground ball or a strikeout.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 11:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice!

4 straight splitters, and gets the K

by ThaWalrus9 on May 27, 2008 11:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cruceta was evil!

Matthews didn’t have a chance.

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by BigAl on May 27, 2008 11:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's the problem when your stuff is really breaking...

You might bounce it up there… 2-1 game.

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by BigAl on May 28, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So much for he leas...

Christ.

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by BigAl on May 28, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So much for the lead...

Tie ballgame.

I’m not all that confident Cruceta gets out of it now.

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by BigAl on May 28, 2008 12:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why do we do this to ourselves?

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

need to stop the bleeding here

if not, it’s K-Rod at the top of the 9th.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Honestly, I’d rather have walked Hunter after 3-0. Bad feeling.

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'd better get to bed.

if i go now, there’s a chance I won’t be cranky at work tomorrow
Sleep…where the Tigers always win

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on May 28, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good Lord!

Cruceta looked great…for 1 batter. Then he just lost it.

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by BigAl on May 28, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as soon

as he throws a bad pitch, he seems to totally lose it.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cruceta

So this was the guy we were all anxiously waiting to get his green card?

by Tigsfan on May 28, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like I said at the tme

he was as popular as a lions backup quarterback and would probably have the same results.

Mack Avenue Tigers

by MackAveKurt on May 28, 2008 12:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had the same feeling

Way overhyped by fans and media alike. I just took one look at his era in the majors (pre-tigers) and though… oh boy… another overrated pen man.

by Tigsfan on May 28, 2008 12:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay.

Does anyone actualy believe we’re going to score a run and win this game?

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 12:08 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not happening

We’ll probably take it to the 13th tonight then Miner will come in and give up a HR.

by Tigsfan on May 28, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate being right

Before the game I predicted 7 K’s, 2 runs allowed for Ervin Santana. I hate being right.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:17 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t know who would make me feel worse. Lopez or Jones. Leyland mystifies me.

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is hope

Darren Oliver looks like he’ll be next in for the Angels. He doesn’t scare me, I think Polanco/Ordonez/Cabrera can get to him.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What did I miss?

Just got back from the first company softball game of the season.
Anything exciting? Who gave up the lead?
Has Leyland beat anyone in the dougout for sassing him yet?

by Juskimo on May 28, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You missed a hell of a pitchers duel

With Cruceta coughing up a 2 run lead in the 8th.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:23 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lopez

Can’t lose him here… need the out

by Tigsfan on May 28, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh

there it is… winning run on 2nd ugh

by Tigsfan on May 28, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How many packs

Is Leyland going to be up to by the end of the season?
6? 8?

by Juskimo on May 28, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

at least it didn’t waste our time with an extra inning loss

Mack Avenue Tigers

by MackAveKurt on May 28, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I thought last night's loss was bad...

This was worse.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on May 28, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't watch this team

This seriously beats me up… I hate it. I hate being a Tigers fan this year… Words I’d never though i’d speak.

by Tigsfan on May 28, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The killer decision tonight

Was pulling Bonderman after 83 pitches.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ditto

When they hit, they don’t pitch. when they pitch, they don’t hit. When they do both, the bullpen blows up.

I’m at a loss.

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by BigAl on May 28, 2008 12:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is just no way to defend what’s going on in this organization. Tonight was horrible on every level. No offense, ridiculous decision making, and two straight walks to put the winning run on second.

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Back to 10 games under .500

There’s really no reason to expect them to contend at this point, is there?

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by BigAl on May 28, 2008 12:29 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only if

Chuck Norris becomes the new pitching coach, because everyone knows that nothing hits Chuck Norris that Chuck Norris does not want to hit Chuck Norris.

by Juskimo on May 28, 2008 12:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm as upset as everyone else

But you have to at least acknowledge that the opposing pitcher was ridiculously good tonight. Honestly, they were lucky to even have a lead to blow.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope..

We are making opposing pitchers look good… also something to keep in mind.

by Tigsfan on May 28, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh... so incredibly frustrating...

television is still intact somehow, as is the remote… a miracle in and of itself

by Tigsfan on May 28, 2008 12:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's going to be 11

Bad as this sounds, we’re due for a bad starting pitching performance. Hopefully it’s not tomorrow.

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 consecutive walk off losses to go 10 games under

I want to say the Tigers have hit rock bottom, but it’s not even JUNE.

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by BigAl on May 28, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No kidding...

At this rate, the season could be over within a week. This trip could get real ugly.

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by BigAl on May 28, 2008 12:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What scares me is....

We’ve had four really good starting pitching performances in a row. AAA pitcher goes tomorrow. Nate leads off at Seatle, who can’t be this bad forever.

Things can’t be particularly good in that clubhouse at the moment. Leyland has burned his tantrum cards.

I have no idea how this gets better before it gets worse.

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 12:39 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

As crappy as the pitching has been on occasion, I really think the offense has been the bigger problem. Like I said, the Tigers were 2 good swings away from being shutout tonight. They need to score runs more consistently.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and frankly

reach rock bottom is worse than the previous

Mack Avenue Tigers

by MackAveKurt on May 28, 2008 12:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not to keep piling on the horror

but we haven’t even had the inevitable Todd Jones implosion yet.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Could the tigers

Put the entire starting team on the DL day to day, bring up the mud hens and play them for a series?

Any reason why this would not be a good idea at this point?

by Juskimo on May 28, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would be better in one aspect

Losses wouldn’t be by one run… they’d be by 10.

by Tigsfan on May 28, 2008 12:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

Fire Lloyd McClendon. 41 All Stars in the starting offense, they shouldn’t have been shutout 8 times already, or whatever the number is.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope

Unlikely. If Lloyd goes, Leyland will go too. Leyland’s biggest problem is his undying loyalty-see Chucky, Sheff, Lloyd, Sheff, blah, blah, blah

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 12:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then fine

I love Leyland, but fine, he can go too. Can’t let the inmates run the asylum, and that includes letting the manager control personnel moves. Let Lamont take over if Jim is that loyal to Lloyd.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Take Grandy

I know this is probably unfair to Lloyd but still, look at how hot Grandy was his first week back. After a week or so with the team (and with Lloyd) he went into the same funk as everyone else.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I also think

Chuck Hernandez has been making progress. Verlander, Bonderman, and Rogers have all been much improved their last few outings.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For whatever reason...

the starters weren’t ready when they left Lakeland. Leyland has admitted as such. They’ve been pretty good the last 10 days or so, and I don’t see any reason that won’t continue as long as they stay healthy.

The offense-and defense I have less faith in. AAA players aren’t the answer. Joyce’s bubble has burst-hopefully they don’t leave him out there twisting in the wind to kill his confidence.

There’s no answer other than our star players playing like star players.

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 12:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not sure I agree...

But I do think the heat will be turned up-considerably.

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 12:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JEEZ FSN

Do they think anyone at all want to hear postgame interviews with the other team after a loss?

Mack Avenue Tigers

by MackAveKurt on May 28, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not many

they cut him off fast. Maybe if they didn’t interview a fricken Angel they’d have had more time.

Mack Avenue Tigers

by MackAveKurt on May 28, 2008 12:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Remember, it’s still May. We have 4 more months. Might get better, might get worse.

by densogirl on May 28, 2008 12:50 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the only silver lining

is that the rest of the division has stunk too. 7.5 games back in May is doable. If they ever get their heads out of their you know what’s

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and the dark cloud

the Tigers have stunk about all of those slumping Central teams, why should we think that’ll change?

Mack Avenue Tigers

by MackAveKurt on May 28, 2008 12:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see no reason to think things will change

But if the Tigers were in the East, they’d be 10 games behind 2 different teams and would be pretty much hosed.

by ThaWalrus9 on May 28, 2008 12:57 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Solid reasoning

but at this moment I can find no good reason to continue to hope. Maybe I’ll feel better tomorrow, but I doubt it.

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 12:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Tigers are the Barry Sanders of the League

Leading in 10+ run games and in negative games.

by Juskimo on May 28, 2008 1:00 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we go 35-5 and transform into the 84 team

we will be 56-36 and in prime position.

So the answer is obvious:

Time travel.

Someone go tell Alan Trammell that his name is now Alan Rentaria and Jack Morris that his name is Justin “Jack” Verlander.

by Juskimo on May 28, 2008 12:54 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Leyland is the one to go...

Gonna write a post about it tonight

by Tigsfan on May 28, 2008 1:03 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ironic

I was the first to call for Leyland’s job and now I’m the one who’s not really in favor. Not really opposed, but I just don’t see it helping.

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by MackAveKurt on May 28, 2008 1:10 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only way Leyland goes...

is if he quits early and heads for Pittsburgh. Which he’s not above doing.

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 1:12 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

He just looks “puzzled” and seems to have no answers… at this rate he may end up quitting before the season is done.

by Tigsfan on May 28, 2008 1:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are no answers

Leyland has made some epically (is that a word?) stupid decisions and I’ve had more than enough of his cliches and deflections. But honestly, I don’t see how canning the guy or him leaving in the middle of the year makes us better. Unless, the team has turned on him and no longer listens. If that’s the case (and only the guys on the team know for sure), then by all means send him home. But otherwise, throwing the guy out basically sends a message that the season is a waste, that all of us who bought tickets wasted our $, etc.

Those things might all be true, but I doubt Ilitch wants to admit that just yet.

by rook34 on May 28, 2008 1:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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