Game 64: White Sox (37-26) at Tigers (26-37)
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 6:01 PM EDT
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Chicago White Sox at Detroit Tigers, Jun 10, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
Jose Contreras (6-3, 2.76) vs. 
Nate Robertson (3-6, 6.03)
Maybe this is fickle of me, but I'd have been a lot more fired up about tonight's series opener with the White Sox had the Tigers won last night and shown they might be making some progress. As it is, however, they could accomplish much the same thing in these three games with the AL Central leaders. Winning any game against the White Sox might indicate some progress, as Ozzie Guillen's team has won five out of the last six meetings between these clubs.
Jose Contreras has been outstanding recently, allowing more than one run only twice in his last seven starts. Strangely, two of his worst outings this season have been against the Tigers. In 11 2/3 innings vs. Detroit, Contreras has allowed nine runs with seven walks and four strikeouts. At Comerica Park, he has a 4-3 record and 3.97 ERA in 10 starts.
The Tigers will have to score at least five runs against Contreras, because Nate Robertson is likely to allow four of his own. In his last outing against the A's, Robertson was knocked around for eight hits and five runs in just 6 1/3 innings. Before that, Seattle scored four runs on him in 5 2/3 innings. And in his one start against the White Sox earlier this season, Robertson gave up five runs in five innings.
South Side Sox has your SB Nation opposing view for this three-game series.
Short Hops:
- If you haven't heard already, Dontrelle Willis was optioned to Single-A Lakeland this afternoon.
- Take 75 North writes about Jordan Tata, whose fortunes have significantly plummeted within the Tigers' organization. Wonder why he hasn't been mentioned as a possible replacement for Dontrelle Willis? Tata has been outrighted from the 40-man roster.
- Baseball Prospectus's Kevin Goldstein recaps the draft for each AL Central team.
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Starting Lineups
CHI WHITE SOX
1. Orlando Cabrera, SS
2. A.J. Pierzynski, C
3. Carlos Quentin, LF
4. Paul Konerko, 1B
5. Jim Thome, DH
6. Jermaine Dye, RF
7. Nick Swisher, CF
8. Joe Crede, 3B
9. Alexei Ramirez, 2B
DETROIT
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Jeff Larish, DH
7. Edgar Renteria, SS
8. Pudge Rodriguez, C
9. Brent Clevlen, LF
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crickets...
I’m finally able to hunker down for a GameThread for the first time in I don’t know how many days, and…
Well, Jim Thome just homered, so maybe it’ll stay quiet in here.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jose Contreas Vs Nate Robinson
why even watch? Final score prediction: White Sox 4-Tigers 0 maybe we will mustar 3 or 4 hits though.
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 10, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dave Dombrowski
Oooh, he looks like he’s in a foul mood this evening. No one sit next to that guy tonight.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CAN YOU IMAGINE
How much that would suck to be a executive on a team like this? you are expected to be there all year round..and you build this great $138 million dollar team..and this happens
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 10, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd take a vacation
and say I was “scouting.”
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last inning
My internet at work was acting up, tell me did we just have 1st and 2nd and no outs and not get a damn thing? what happened?
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 10, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Runners on 1st and 2nd with one out. Strikeout by Renteria, Pudge rounds out to 2B.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
amazing
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 10, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry
cant help but speak sarcastically these days
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 10, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How can you be sarcastic? I'm EXCITED!!
Well, I’m excited about the good young players the Tigers will get when they dump some folks at the trade deadline.
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 10, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Last night
I wonder if that had something of a lingering effect. Not only did they not win, and show they might be making a turnaround. But they were terrible in losing.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every time we think they hit rock bottom
They manage to go a little deeper
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 10, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who they going to dump?
no one will take the salaries they want to dump, I.E GARY FREAKIN 12 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR BATTING .1 SOMETHING..SHEFFIELD
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 10, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding?
Everyone. I don’t see anyone as being safe right now.
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 10, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm comfortable with the fact the Tigers will not win the AL Central
But please anyone but the White Sox. I just cannot stand Ozzie Guillen
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 10, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pudge
Maybe the time off helped him throw people out.
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 10, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll tell you this much
I like the way this game is going. Mags with an outfield assist, Pudge with two CS, tolerable starting pitching, and the guys are doing some hitting.
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 10, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OZZIE GUILLEN
I swear I was just about to say the exact same thing 5 minutes ago…cant stand him
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 10, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
God...
that guys head is huge… (polly)
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 10, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So is his ability to hit to the opposite field. Nice work to drive in a run.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
POLANCO
My wife thinks he looks like an alien with his helmet off lol
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 10, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hate the bunt there
Guillen’s maybe their best hitter. Why make him give up an out like that?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thats something I expect from the opposing dugout
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe because
Nothing else Leyland has tried is working.
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 10, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the bunt
It seems like their is never a good time to bunt tho, what bat would you really want to bunt in are line up? I have been screaming manufacture some runs the last month.
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
even though they are a slow team, they should be moving all the time.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 10, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wwwwwwwwwwwwwooooohhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 10, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a pretty good pitch Miggy muscled into centerfield, too.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at bats like that are why i think no one should ever swing at the first pitch in their first at bat… relax, take a few and get a feel for what the guy is throwing… then you are better prepared for your next abs. miggy looked like he knew that pitch was coming.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 10, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is tonight the night Contreras revert back to normal?
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 10, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ian...
...why don’t you start a Tigers fourm or message board type thing?
Go Tigers
by Tony K on Jun 10, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oy, then I'd have to moderate it... Who has the time?
Seriously, though – MotownSports is a great Tigers forum/message board, if you’ve never checked that out.
http://motownsports.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7
And though it’s not quite a message board format, the FanPosts provide something of the same opportunity for discussion. We encourage anyone to post anything they’d like there: news stories, opinions, columns, etc.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this it? is this the one? this could be the game....
Dont you love everytime someone on TV says maybe this is the one that turns it around for this team? however being 11 games out I dont think anyone is going to say that anymore..oh well who cares anything they do right at least makes me feel better for about them for a few minutes anyways.
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was driving me crazy on Saturday, during the FOX post-game show. “Is this the one? Can the Tigers build on this?”
But kicking Contreras’s ass tonight would be a good start for me.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even if they sweep (Huuuge if) they're still 8 back...
But…if the Tigers can get going, 9 games against the Rockies, Giants and Padres could fuel a fire
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 10, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clevlan
Like him, he seems to have everything..I think him and grandy will be in the outfield for many years to come.
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 10, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did he do good for a bit last year, then just fizzle out?
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 10, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's 5
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 10, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon, Nate
Don’t blow this. You got your runs.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here comes Dolsi
If he does what he did on Sunday… we might have something.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why are the bases always loaded when I turn the game on?
Why oh why?
by Juskimo on Jun 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What happened?
watching it on the internet..did they try to turn two and couldnt?
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Ramirez hit a ground ball to Guillen, and they got one out at 2nd, but couldn’t turn it to 1st.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not bad
Escaped with one run. That could’ve been much, much worse. Dolsi is becoming a more dependable reliever.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
close Main Street...
its a hit parade!
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 10, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
13 hits
this is the Jose Contreras I know and love
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 10, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was kind of shocked when I saw how well he’d been pitching recently.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
regression to mean...
I think that phrase will describe the White Sox pitching in the 2nd half
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 10, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright maggs
just tuned in… looks like we’re doing well…
by busta on Jun 10, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The offense.
It’s looked like this all year, right? And we must be 11 games over .500. I’ll just assume that all of that 26-37 nonsense at the top of the page is just a typo, right Ian?
by Grant E. on Jun 10, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A non-double play double play
Sending Guillen to steal 3rd, where he gets thrown out, followed by a strikeout from Cabrera. What a buzzkill. A wasted opportunity to tack on more runs.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
brillant
send the guy with hemorrhoids and the one with the bum knee on the double steal, with the guy that’s 3 for 3 at-bat
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 10, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 runs
doesn’t look like it’s gonna be enough… I hate that I feel so negative so quickly with this team…
by busta on Jun 10, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
balk?
seriously…. lets keep it together guys
by busta on Jun 10, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im not going to lie..
I’m scared.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 10, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im not going to lie,,,
I just crapped my pants!
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 10, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Clevlen has a laser rocket arm
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 10, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A left fielder who can throw!
I love it!
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he should be a starter
Take Dontrelle Willis’ spot
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 10, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whew....
not pretty, but I guess it worked…
by busta on Jun 10, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF Pudge?
When did you wake up and become SuperTiger?
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the thought of splitting time 50/50 doesn’t sit well with him…
by busta on Jun 10, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
click, click, click, click...
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 10, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care who you are
that picture is funny
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 10, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm still laughing!
Is there a game going on? I lost track
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I love seeing the other team ground into double plays.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: The 'Stache
I’m not sure I approve of Jonesy shaving that thing off.
He looks almost unrecognizable.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 10, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one more
Come on Todd, you can get the lead run to the plate
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 10, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1-2-3 the Todd Jones Way
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 10, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is a restaraunt
in town I go to for breakfast meetings that has a breakfast item called “heart attack on a plate”. Every time Jones comes on, I think of that dish.
by Juskimo on Jun 10, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the scary thing
is that, despite all the bad moments so far, Todd Jones hasn’t had a blown save yet, so we probably have at least a few of those to still look forward to.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 10, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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