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Game 70: Tigers (32-37) at Giants (30-40)

Detroit Tigers at San Francisco Giants, Jun 16, 2008 10:15 PM EDT


Justin Verlander (3-9, 4.65) vs. Tim Lincecum (8-1, 1.99)

Now that the Tigers have figured out this winning thing at Comerica Park, they travel to California for six games and see if their roll can continue in the Pacific time zone.

First up, the San Francisco Giants, who are currently 10 games under .500 but generally playing better than was expected of them before the season.  A big reason for the Giants' success is the pitching of Tim Lincecum, who's been spectacular.  He's only allowed two total runs in his last three starts (21 innings), yet only has one win to show for the effort.  Lincecum has also thrown 15 consecutive quality starts, going back to last year.  Should we mention that he's striking out almost 10 batters per nine innings (9.6)? 

Justin Verlander isn't quite on the same kind of streak, but he's never lost in Interleague Play.  He's won all seven of his starts, posting a 1.99 ERA and 48 strikeouts in 49 2/3 innings.  Verlander is also coming off his best game of the season, a complete game four-hitter vs. the White Sox.  Of course, Verlander had the good stuff that night, but he also finally received some overdue run support from his lineup, which had to have helped his confidence.

I don't know if this Vernor's thing is going to work outside of Detroit, especially since I'm not sure if you can find it anywhere in San Francisco.  But as you know, ginger ale has been very good to us over the past week.

McCovey Chronicles, a SB Nation institution, has your opposing view for this three-game series.  I'm going to try and stay awake for these west coast games, and hope some of you guys are crazy enough to join me in the GameThread.

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Starting Lineups

DETROIT

1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Marcus Thames, LF
7. Ivan Rodriguez, C
8. Michael Hollimon, SS
9. Justin Verlander, P

SAN FRANCISCO

1. Fred Lewis, LF
2. Ray Durham, 2B
3. Randy Winn, RF
4. Bengie Molina, C
5. Aaron Rowand, CF
6. John Bowker, 1B
7. Rich Aurilia, 3B
8. Omar Vizquel, SS
9. Tim Lincecum, P

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 16, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

This has all the makings

of a 3-1 game that gets done in 2 hours, 10 minutes.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed....

Probably come down to one big hit or one big mistake. Let’s hope it’s a big hit by our guys. Tough assignnment for JV tonight, though. Lincecum is flithy.

by rook34 on Jun 16, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Lincecum is nasty, but I am not too afraid of a lineup that has Bengie Molina hitting cleanup…

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zumaya's line tonight

One inning, one run allowed on two hits. Two strikeouts.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 16, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Francisco Cruceta also pitched a scoreless inning, with one walk.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 16, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

while we're all waiting for the game to start

allow me to recommend this video which sums up a very interesting article by Gregg Easterbrook (of Tuesday Morning Quarterback fame) about the possibility of a space rock striking Earth:

http://www.theatlantic.com/movies/rocks/

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, Easterbrook totally ruined ‘Armageddon’ for me.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 16, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

not so for me

Aerosmith (as well as the crappy screenwriting) ruined it for me

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

does liv tyler at least earn it a couple of points back?

by ahtrap on Jun 16, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could Tim Lincecum look any younger?

looks like he should be getting ready for prom, not pitching in the majors

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

you know there's a winning streak

when the comments hit double digits before the game starts!

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 16, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Has there ever been a game in history...

That featured two power pitchers who were skinnier that Verlander and Lincecum? They both have such electric stuff but neither really look like they throw as hard as they do.

by Grant E. on Jun 16, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

haha, good question

Pedro vs Randy Johnson sometime (I am assuming they faced each other at some point)?

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

see, when I said I’d join in on the fun tonight, I meant that I’d do it from the comforts of home….instead…..stupid werk…..

by ahtrap on Jun 16, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Well...

At least Guillen didn’t ground into that double play.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 16, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

After

he threw 4 straight balls, CG was up there hacking at everything. Maybe he should have batted righty against him!

by Zappatista on Jun 16, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I realize that Lincecum is excellent...

But the Tigers really need to sweep this team. Molina batting cleanup? BENJI Molina? And on Tigers Weekly, Ryan Field said that “The Tigers will travel to beautiful San Francisco to take on Randy Wynn and the Giants.” Randy Wynn? Really? That’s the best that the Giants can come up with?

by Grant E. on Jun 16, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

That's what I was thinking

Is this really an MLB team? Obviously their pitcher is excellent though, so that’s all it takes.

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 16, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey now that line-up has 4 All-Stars...

from 1997

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jun 16, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball Tonight

Watching it now and Buster Olney just mentioned that Brian Cashman may be fired if the Yankees miss the playoffs for the first time since 1993. Let me speak for baseball fans everywhere when I say “Screw the Yankees and their sense of playoff entitlement.”

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Marcus Thames

His last SIX hits have all been HRs. He’s the Cris Carter of the MLB: “All he does is hit home runs!”

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright now I can go to bed

Marcus hit a homer, it’s all over

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jun 16, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Shoot, it’s too late to make my joke about Thames staying in the lineup, isn’t it?

But for superstition’s sake…

Yeah, I think Marcus Thames should stay in the lineup.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 16, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

on a related note

at this point, Ryan Raburn should take a picture of Leyland in the shower and try to blackmail him with it. Seriously, WHAT does Rabrun have to do in order to get regular playing time?

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pudge

on pace to quadruple his walk total from last year

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jun 16, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

umm

walk’s not an at bat, so officially 0-1??

by ahtrap on Jun 16, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops, 12 hours and counting workday talking

Thought for some reason Sheff was back up with the big club already…..where’s that happening, Toledo?

by ahtrap on Jun 16, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

dang

That’s a killer error.

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Jun 16, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Hollimon...

Did not have to rush that throw.

Maybe trying too hard to impress?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 16, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, that’s my guess.

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Jun 16, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steal Grandy

Runs are going to be hard to come by, I think you send Grandy

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I swear

If I get evicted from my apartment building you can blame it on Mike Holliman.

by densogirl on Jun 16, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

who the bleep is hollimon? I mean, I’m a guy hanging out around a Tigers blog, and every day there’s some kid in the lineup I’ve never heard of….

by ahtrap on Jun 16, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike H.

He’s a Mud Hen brought up to take a look-see at.

by densogirl on Jun 16, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

MARCUS THAMES!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, his last SEVEN!!!! hits have all been HRs.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

that has to be some sort of record, right?

by ahtrap on Jun 16, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

good god.

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Jun 16, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Boy.....

It’s going to get interesting when Sheff returns.

by rook34 on Jun 16, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't say it enough

SEVEN STRAIGHT HITS HAVE ALL LEFT THE PARK. That is absurd!

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

ive never heard of that ever.. anyone?

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 16, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

how can

they possibly take him out of the line up? the guy is raking.. 7 hits, 7 homeruns

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 16, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

even still

Marcus Thames <<< Bill Brasky

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s a better comparison.

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Jun 16, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thames is way cooler than Chuck Norris. It’s not close.

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Jun 16, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Edgar....

really hurting? The kid at short isn’t instilling me with a ton of confidence.

by rook34 on Jun 16, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

He almost made the club out of spring training. Give the kid a chance – its only his 2nd game.

by tbliggins on Jun 16, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy Thames. This is what I want to see when I turn the game on.

by Juskimo on Jun 16, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Thames does not hit a ball out of the park

he hits the park back and the ball stays in place.

by Juskimo on Jun 16, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Hot tamale

To paraphrase the no-hit wonder, Aaron Carter

Plunk after Plunk
Slam after Slam
Everybody say it
Marcus da Man

by Trysdor on Jun 16, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

whew

thank god it was the glacial bengie molina on the basepath there.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 16, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

MAYBE

should have pinch hit for MH instead…

by Zappatista on Jun 17, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Renteria

always gives you a professional at bat. Could use one here.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 17, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Tough call

Looks like Molina could’ve missed Pudge, but hard to tell from the two angles they’ve shown.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 17, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

By the way...

Are these kinds of calls subject to review if MLB adopts instant replay?

Okay, the angle they just showed from the first base side looks like Molina tagged Pudge.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 17, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was just home run calls.

by Juskimo on Jun 17, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Just home run calls. That’s the way to do it. Though I don’t think it should be adopted during this regular season.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 17, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

Only home runs fair/foul, I believe and that is at the umps discression.

by Zappatista on Jun 17, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tossing in progress?

Like an orange and black leaf in a late autumn breeze

by Juskimo on Jun 17, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

So if Rodney's in the dugout...

Does that essentially mean he’s not pitching tonight? Not that I would recommend he comes into this game.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 17, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

He hasn’t pitched since Saturday so I can’t believe he is unavailable. Leyland may want a lower leverage situation to ease him back into.

by tbliggins on Jun 17, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dolsi

can throw two, especially after that quicky..

by Zappatista on Jun 17, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Only seven pitches. Yeah, Dolsi might pitch the 8th, with Rodney on stand-by.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 17, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

everything I know of Leyland

says he’s not afraid to throw a guy out there. I say Rodney gets the 8th.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 17, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok

I know I’ve been the biggest proponent of the sad reality that Dolsi may be sent down, but let me say here and now I don’t think he should be. Freddy Dolsi has a major league arm and should be pitching the 6th the rest of the year.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 17, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

So we were both right

Here comes Rodney. Dolsi left kind of a mess for him.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 17, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

IF

Polanco is covering, then why in the hell is Edgar so far up the middle?

by Zappatista on Jun 17, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

See

A nice low leverage situation for Rodney to get comfortable.

by tbliggins on Jun 17, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Ballsy

or stupid call by Leyland here. Should be interesting. I like the call though

by Tigsfan on Jun 17, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Ugh

They have given up a lot of 2 strike hits today.

by tbliggins on Jun 17, 2008 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

maybe

should have just went to bed…

by Zappatista on Jun 17, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

His fastball looks outta control right now

doesn’t seem to have command over it (at least as of now)

by Tigsfan on Jun 17, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

rodney

bein rodney…...... is his hat crooked as usual? (im stuck at work)

by HavocRox on Jun 17, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Only 4 runs

I had a bad feeling going into the inning given they have only won 2 games all year when they have scored 4 runs or less.

by tbliggins on Jun 17, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Fastballl

That pitch can’t find the plate with a roadmap.

by rook34 on Jun 17, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Terrible

well… that appearance couldn’t have went worse

by Tigsfan on Jun 17, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

And bad call by the umps on this one

Terrible, if they let that second run score.

by Tigsfan on Jun 17, 2008 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe he didn't have to...

But Rich Aurilia doesn’t exactly appear to run hard.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 17, 2008 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Thus endeth the Era of Good Feeling

Gonna need a big outing from the Gambler tomorrow.

by rook34 on Jun 17, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

ok, curtis, it’s in your hands now

by ahtrap on Jun 17, 2008 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

How many other shortstops make that play? Even at Vizquel’s age?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 17, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

He may not be the player he once was...

And he is just dreadful with the bat, but he sure is fantastic defensively.

by Grant E. on Jun 17, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

This one stings

We’ve got the Gambler in a pitcher’s park tomorrow. Let’s get it going again.

by rook34 on Jun 17, 2008 1:02 AM EDT reply actions  

the yahoo box score gives Dolsi the loss….I thought Rodney gave up the last three SF runs?

by ahtrap on Jun 17, 2008 1:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Run #5 was put on base by Dolsi

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 17, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

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