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Game 73: Tigers (34-38) at Padres (31-43)

Detroit Tigers at San Diego Padres, Jun 20, 2008 10:05 PM EDT


Eddie Bonine (1-0, 10.13) vs. Greg Maddux (3-5, 3.31)

That "rematch of the 1984 World Series" stuff doesn't seem too pertinent when the Tigers and Padres faced each other just three years ago, does it?  Maybe that's a reason to dislike Interleague Play for some.  For me, it's a reason to love it.  I think it's great that we get to see the Tigers play at Petco Park and face one of the modern titans of pitching (Is that laying it on a bit thick?) in Greg Maddux.

Pitchers such as Maddux, who rely more on guile and deception rather than pure stuff, have given Detroit trouble in the past.  But the Tigers are basically beating every kind of pitcher right now, so maybe it doesn't matter.  Maddux is coming off one of his worst starts of the season, in which he gave up five runs (two earned) and eight hits in six innings vs. the Indians.  In his three appearances before that, however, Maddux allowed just four total runs over 19 innings.  Good hitting lineups have knocked him around this year, and right now, the Tigers are swinging the bat well.

Could this be Eddie Bonine's final start with the big league club?  He can certainly influence such a decision with a solid outing tonight.  But he really wasn't very good last Saturday against the Dodgers, giving up six runs on nine hits over 5 1/3 innings, and may have prompted the Tigers to begin thinking about other starting pitching options.  Bonine didn't walk any batters, which is how he works, but he does give up some hits.  I know some might think Petco Park's spaciousness could help him, but there's also a lot of space for hits to drop in if he can't keep the ball on the ground.

And will Joel Zumaya see some action tonight?  The Tigers officially activated him this afternoon, and would surely like to see what he's got.  Even if he's not great tonight, he can't possibly be worse than Fernando Rodney was on Monday, right?  Right?

Gaslamp Ball has your SB Nation opposing view for this three-game series.  If you happen to stop over there for some ribbing, please keep it civil.  We're all friends here.

And if you stopped over because of Blake's generous plug at The Spot Starters, it's much appreciated.  Thanks for joining the chatter and we hope you feel comfortable enough to stick around. 

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GLB'er stopping in

Before you kick the crap out of us and I get bitter… nice post and good luck.

can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face

by Axion on Jun 20, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, thanks for stopping by

I’m looking forward to checking in over there and chatting.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

zumaya

He won’t do worse than Rodney? Way to work the jinx, Ian.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

seriously

I don’t know if I could do worse in my first outing than Rodney did…

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So long as he doesn't give up a bomb to Giles or Greene

I’ll be happy with whatever Zumaya does… I’m not a fan of Greene and well, Giles is a former Tribe

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

I wouldn’t be surprised if Giles’ name ever popped up on a HGH list or steroid list… look at how the power has dropped off

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giles has been off the juice since they started testing.

by Richard Wade on Jun 21, 2008 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Starting Lineups

DETROIT

1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Marcus Thames, LF
7. Edgar Renteria, SS
8. Pudge Rodriguez, C
9. Eddie Bonine, P

SAN DIEGO

1. Jody Gerut, CF
2. Edgar Gonzalez, 2B
3. Brian Giles, RF
4. Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
5. Chase Headley, 3B
6. Scott Hairston, LF
7. Khalil Greene, SS
8. Michael Barrett, C
9. Greg Maddux, P

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Boney!!

What’s going on, man? Summer treating you well so far?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Busy playing catch-up so far

But I’m looking forward to some grilling and road-tripping.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worse than Rodney?

Knock on wood. We hope not.

Guess who I got to see tonight. Al Kaline was in town to watch his grandson Colin play ball with the Battle Creek Bombers. It was a mob scene so I didn’t get an autograph but still got some pictures. Just thought I’d throw some small town trivia in there.

by densogirl on Jun 20, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm really looking forward to the Cards series

Tigers will honor ‘68 team. Kaline, Lolich, Horton etc. in attendence. That will be a lot of fun.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Denny McLain might be there if he can clear it with his parole officer, too.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

easy...

actually two years ago I caught the game against the cards that the tigers won in 10 (or was it 11) innings on a drive into the gap by Placido. Awesome game.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jody Gerut?

Seriously, who saw that one coming? Remember when he used to murder the Tigers?

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At the risk of sounding like a jerk...

If the Shock game isn’t over by 10 pm, FSN Detroit is switching to the Tigers, right?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

If they don’t I would be shocked and would laugh in poor taste.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FSN+

I would have to assume

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Programing Filler

This is most likely the most watched the shock has ever been

by KZone on Jun 20, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

KZone?

Does Joe Morgan know you’re hanging out with us on a Friday night? Is he jealous?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I have the week off, have to get rested up for Sunday night

by KZone on Jun 20, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heady

Is that Heady Lamar in their lineup? It’s Headley!!!!!!

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

blazing saddles?

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I suppose we could, don’t you….

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Consider it a tribute to the recently-departed Harvey Korman

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've GOT to be shitting me

She better miss one of these

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well then

That’s a hell of a way the start this party

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eddine Bonine and all...

I like our chances tonight. I’m feeling confident.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he better hope they start giving him the inside corner..

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pudge

still has it behind the plate. wow.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But does Pudge make so many funny commercials back in Puerto Rico?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How would we know?

Maybe he does! He’s a comic genius!

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

Feeling good.

Anybody know how Granderson’s lead-off homer stats stack up in the grand scheme of things? Seems like he’s got a pretty good number of them already.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rickey Henderson holds the career record

With 81. Craig Biggio is second with 53. That was Grandy’s 10th of his career.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so he's got a long way to go

Man, Rickey Henderson was a hell of a player.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool, thanks.

I’d’ve guessed he had more. But I guess you tend to remember them.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I woulda guessed more too

But that was his 10th out of 59 career, so still a pretty high percentage.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thames

Did you see that shot he threw to Polanco, no Jacque strap arm there..

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In case you wondered...

Dave Gumpert wore #43 for the Tigers in the early 1980s. Almost the same type of pitcher a Senor Bonine. Carry on.

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hedy's up!

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

where’s ducky?

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish I could watch the game...

I guess that’s what I get for living in DC

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know..

but I’m cheap

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UNLESS

One lives in close enough proximity to the archestest rival Chicago, and every game that they play against each other is BLACKED OUT. Talk about rape, arson, murder, and rape.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You said rape twice!

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You said rape twice :)

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like rape.

(man, I feel horrible typeing that….

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rape can be funny...

picture Elmer Fudd raping Porky Pig

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

I didn’t think the conversation would get here this quickly. Onward!

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How disappointing.

I don’t usually say that about doubles.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

man

I am in the presence of celebrities… it’s Big Al!

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where's the celebrities?!

I’ve been away from Ian’s game threads for too long. It was past time I hung out…

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to have you back, Al.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to be back!

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tigers Career Leadoff HR Leader...

Lou Whitaker with 23. Grandy has the single-season record with 7, last season.

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man busy crowd tonight

miss an inning and I’m 60 comments behind

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jun 20, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That at bat

is why I love the DH.

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

With that said

I enjoy seeing a pitcher put the bat on the ball and actually try running it out, unlike…

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed...

I really hate NL baseball. Other than the fact the Tigers tend to pound NL teams…

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok so I recently moved..

found my complete set of 1990 Topps baseball cards… flipping through some of them now, I found 1 tiger so far…

who remembers Rick Schu?

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no

but I remember my set of 1990 Topps. Weird.

by MackAveKurt on Jun 20, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah, Schu...

The lean years. Believe it or not, he’s now the hitting coach for the Diamondbacks. Not bad for a guy with a .246 career average.

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember the name Rick Schu...

...but nothing about him. Who else was on that team? Tony Phillips?

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paul Gibson?

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jun 20, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he sure was weird looking.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was Rob Deer there then or was it later?

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How's this for bad?

Larry Sheets, Lloyd Moseby, Mickey Tettleton, Travis Fryman, Cecil Fielder,...

www.dailyfungo.com

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Lloyd Moseby...

Is Cito Gaston really the manager of the Blue Jays again?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thankfully, yes

What other manager with two World Series rings has been out of work as long as him—Casey Stengel not included.

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weren’t they talking about Rick Schu the other day on the Baseball Today podcast? Like he was supposed to supplant Mike Schmidt at 3rd base for the Phillies?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chet?

Was that Lemon’s last year?

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Must've been.

I was surprised to see his name, too.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got the same birthday as Chet Lemon.

That made me very happy as a ten year old.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a Jack Morris card, and a Gary Ward card..

I remember Cecil being in the 1990 Topps Traded set… I made my Dad buy that for me because he hit 51 bombs that one year

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Chet got cut

at the end of spring training in ‘91 when the Tigers signed Pete Incaviglia

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Urbano Lugo

Great name. I might give my son that.

Urbano Lugo Casselberry. Rolls off the tongue.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it's twins...

...the other can be Ugueth.

And the first girl can be Maggliana.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the name Casselberry alone

kind of rolls off the tongue

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Milt Cuyler

I have an auto. pic some where of him that sent away for when I was a kid

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

These BC/BS Ads

make me ill. Hey, Ernie, what’s it like to be so close to death yet still able to plug our health plans?

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't mean that as anti-Ernie...

... as much as BC/BS going with that type of campaign. Oy!

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw..

...but I like the ads where Ernie tells us that it’s good to take a walk.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay...

and not to be a jerk and pile on Ernie, but does anyone ever see him on those commercials and just wonder what the hell he’s talking about? It’s like they put him in front of a camera and told him to talk about whatever he wanted to. They seldom make sense.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with Blake on this one

The commercials irk me. he seems like a babbling old man. i’d rather remember Ernie as Ernie.

by MackAveKurt on Jun 20, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BC/BS

I just hope mine can keep me talking at that age.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figure Ernie has earned the right to pretty much do as he wants

I just ignore he ads.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kudos to McClary!

Giving us the leadoff HR info before FSN Detroit.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anyone remember Kevin Ritz?

Doug Strange hit 13 bombs in 1987 for Glen Falls

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ritz was the ace in Colorado

When I moved to Denver and saw that Ritz was the number-one starter I thought, “Is this the same Kevin Ritz?”

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yoink

Steal for Grandy

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jun 20, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tigers should steal a lot in this series

Padres have more bases stolen against them than any other ML team

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe Grandy only has 4 sb this year

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't either

but he did miss 3 weeks or so

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, he hasn't been on base all that much

Grady needs to step it up.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Polly

Maddux made him look bad there, not often accomplished.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Maddux is one of the all-times greats though

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone else see this on Deadspin today?

It’s Jim Leyland and Jim Flealand…

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jun 20, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Grandy - HR, Single, SB

Well, don’t just sit there, grasping your hands in pain. How about a little applause for the Waco Chicago Kid.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

don’t pay him no attention, he’s just an ol’e alchy

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sit tight

This may very well be the final score. :)

can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face

by Axion on Jun 20, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here's some all time tigers...

Mike Brumley, Paul Gibson, Gary Pettis, and Frank Tanana

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maggs seems to be swing and miss more fastballs lately

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kenny Williams

Didn’t the current White Sox GM used to play for the Tigers. 1990 seems about right for that. Unless I’m making this up.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

‘89 and ‘90

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DYK?

Frank Tanana lead the league in losses in 1982 while pitching for the Texas Rangers… 18 losses

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not to plug others, but

check out Joe Sports Fan. F’n heelarious card collection over there. Or at least they used to, haven’t been there in a while.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What exactly...

Is that in the dirt on the mound next to the Padres logo.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like the X on a treasure map

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greg Maddux

Is getting a future hall of famer’s strikezone tonight

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brian DuBois, Steve Searcy, Tracy Jones?

I know Searcy… who the hell are these other nerds

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beer

Anyone else out there had a Leinenkugel’s Summer Shandy? I’m not sure what I think of it. I may like it and I may hate it, I just cannot figure it out.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Roommate can't get enough of it

I’m with you. I have no idea what to make of it. She loves the stuff, though.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haven't had it yet

did have New Holland Brewing Co.’s Zommer. Pretty good summer brew

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No matter what happens to Eddie Bonine

He can always say he struck out a hall of famer. (Doesn’t need to tell anyone it was Greg Maddux…)

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

Good point.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stay away from anything from cheeseland

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cool site – this being my first time on. nice to read your comments. and about the beer – i’m a bit fan of the summer shandy…gotta say.

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not to get all political here though...

for all the complaining about not enough african americans in baseball… those same people should look at the 1990 Topps set, for every tragically white nerdy looking guy, there are 12 more nerds behind them

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

on that note

the Indy Star had a profile on the front of the sports page on Cory Wade, pitcher for the departed Dodgers (!) I never realized that he is from Indy, but it reverted it back to African Americans playing baseball. His high school, which is about 4 minutes from the homestead, don’t even have a baseball field. They play in a city park with an orange removable outfield fence. Pretty amazing. THAT is why you have to love Granderson and his social awareness.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing beats a oberon on a hot summer day

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

except....

about 20 busch lites and a juicy burger

by slomo984 on Jun 20, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, yes,

We do love the cheap awful beer, and plenty of it! But give me High Life.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

back to the game...

funny how Giles no longer hits 30 bombs a year

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Red Wings finally made their first round pick

Some Canadian kid, a goalie in the OHL.

Is their a more anti-climatic draft than the NHL’s? Oh yeah, MLB’s…

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd go NHL's

MLB’s draft is covered somewhat here in the US, so you at least have an idea who the first round talent is.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know I was pumped

last year when they grabbed Porcello

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The NHL draft is today?

Is it on Versus?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The first round just ended

Versus carried the TSN feed. To be honest, what little I watched was snooze inducing.

Oooo, “Bloodsport” is starting on Versus now!

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Versus will just rely on TSN and CBC all the damn time.

Can the NHL PLEASE get a television contract with a real network? If you can’t afford your own broadcasts of the sport that’s exclusively yours in the U.S., just stop it. Go home, Versus.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giles is not the physical speciman

that he use to be. I wonder what happened? hmmm…

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

to be fair

he’s old now, and San Diego’s park is brutal for HR hitters.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm excited for NBA's version Thursday.

Any suggestions for the Pistons? DJ White? Will Douglas-Roberts be availiable? Personally, I’d like to see them take Bill Walker from K-State, knee injury and all.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Walker

I would have been all for Walker before the injury. He’s torn up both of his knees. Can’t trust that.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have complete faith in resident magician Arnie Kander. Otherwise, I’d be inclined to agree with you.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pistons

Drew Neitzel, who’s with me?

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, if Scott Skiles could have a decent NBA career

Why not Neitzel?

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Izzo was on the radio the other day

he didn’t sound to sure if he would even get drafted, but he did say that he would make a team somewhere

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scott Lusader...

Sweet Lou, Ed Nunez (with a nice Tiger Stadium backdrop), Frank Williams, Chet Lemon, and Chicago GM Ken Williams

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kenny Williams

I swear I have that card. It’s probably in my parents basement somewhere.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neitzel

I saw him this summer in Lansing, there is no way that guy is even 5’11’’. He looked like a little kid.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DJ

I would almost have to actually root for the Deetrooooit Baaaasketbaaal Pistons if they drafted the Big Boi from Bloomington!

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Zappa

What’s to like about Zappa anyway? I’ve tried his stuff a few times, I just don’t understand the appeal.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can understand that. Some of the music is way to out there, especially his lyrics. Mainly just the F* You attitude, but he was so intelligent I don’t think most understood him, including me at times.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never really caught on with Zappa, either.

My dad, however, love Zappa. And this is a guy whose other favorite musicians are Louis Armstrong, Coltrane, Thelonious Monk and Miles Davis. Seems like a completely different direction, no?

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Padres TV

was just showing footage of the Tigers winning the 68 series. good stuff

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crap.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn, Hedy went yard...

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s probably a gum chewer…

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope he brought enough for everyone…

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok... I finished skimming through the set, to pull out the Tigers

Matt Nokes, Mike Heath, Mike Henneman, Alan Trammell and Jeff Robinson… along with Sparky Anderson

Funniest name in the bunch: Goose Gozzo

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chase Headley

i do not like you

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jun 20, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Way to bounce back Bonine…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, and he wasn’t wasting any time doing it either

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if anyone's hitting a homer...

I’m glad it’s Headley… he’s on my fantasy team

by Boney on Jun 20, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Before that Headley home run...

I was going to say that this felt like the most lopsided 1-0 game ever.

Now, not so much.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can it be the most lopsided 1-1 game ever…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Grandy keeps facing Maddux, it might be.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I smell a Bonine homer

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Better defensive pitcher Maddux or Kenny?

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3 for 3 … nice granderson

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey there Paul

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey man…good to see you again.

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

crap

he got thrown out stealing.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Granderson was safe!

I didn’t need the replay to confirm it.

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit

Boy, they had that called right.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He was safe

But the ball beat him there.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maddux’s strike zone extends to second base.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah..

luckily, he very rarely goes past six innings.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that

was a disappointing inning

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Polly

will be the happiest man in the stadium when Maddux comes out of the game.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Madduz has Placidome's number...

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Madduz?

When will i learn to use preview?

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Joyce...

Did he borrow Goose Gosage’s mustache tonight? Must be paying tribute to the ‘84 WS.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gosage Gossage

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux

Has a miniature version of Gene Lamont’s body.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Blink and you missed it

That was a fast 5th inning for the Pads.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ya

It’s actually nice to have a pitcher that throws strikes, when the D is playing well too.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait...

Did Mario just say that that was Grandy’s 16th leadoff HR?

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maddux might be the smartest man in baseball for signing with the Padres. That park makes him look good.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I thought Comerica ad deep power alleys...

Lynn Henning would go into apoplectic fits writing about the unfairness of the fences every week if he were in SD.

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This day in MLB history

Miggy finished off his Major League debut with a walk home run!

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So now that we’ve come to some… uhhh… errr… revelations regarding Roger Clemens, the Mad Dog has to go down as the greatest pitcher of his generation, right?

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I say so

you could argue the case for Randy Johnson too

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randy

hasn’t had the consistency that Maddox has, I think he’s alone in front without the sterocket…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate

Schilling, but he hasn’t been too bad himself. Glavine, Smoltz….damn the Braves had a stable. I would put all of them in a group at the top.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux

is a cut above some of the other HOF pitchers who pitched with him. Maddux is definitely in a class better than Schilling, Glavine, and Smoltz (but I do think they are all HOF’ers)

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux.

From 1993-97, Mad Dog’s average season looks like this:

18-6, 2.13 ERA, a 5.7/1 K/BB ratio and a .95 WHIP

Really? A .95 whip. Over five seasons. That’s un-freaking-believable.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure of one thing...

The Big Unit had better hair than the Rocket. Unit had a rockin’ mullet.

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HAD

I think it is still there, in the ‘lite’ form

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Replay

Would anyone be against replay in baseball if they used the same rules as the NFL? You only get three challenges per game and if you’re correct you don’t get penalized.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i don’t know…i mean it would help with plays like that at second…but there’s something about the human element of baseball that i love. even if a call doesn’t go your way

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true, true.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Renteria, but we need a younger shortstop with some range…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good evening everyone! what a pick!

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

nice turn.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That. Was. Sweet.

One advantage of having a former third baseman playing first.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nicely turned double play!

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it me

or does Cabrera look more comfy at first these days?

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Definitely

which makes us ALL more comfy

by MackAveKurt on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with ya...

he looks pretty pretty pretty pretty good.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another fine

Curb Your Enthusiasm reference!

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not just you...

Miggy looks at home playing st.

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He also looks thinner, of course that could just be because the team is actually winning now…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pads tv

just zoomed in on Miggy, the kid is laboring! What did he do, throw the ball to second?

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think so. looks very fluent over there. any one know where maddox pitch count is?

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bonine

is not getting the calls Maddux is getting. Not at all.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh come on...

just what i was going to say blake

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that inside corner was called several times for maddux…and not at all for bonine

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux vs RJ

Maddux: 350-219, 3.12 ERA (all in the NL), 3318 K’s
RJ: 288-154, 3.25 ERA (10 season in AL), 4686 K’s

I still would take Maddux, but like I said, you could make the case that The Big Unit was the most dominant pitcher of his day.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I always forget how many K’s Randy gets…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s too bad his Yanks time got so much publicity, I’ll agree a good case can be made…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me..

or do these NL games go by really, really fast?

by spartyboy40 on Jun 20, 2008 11:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, theres an automatic out every 9 batters. not a big fan.

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux

He’s double-parked, has a dinner reservation, is catching a movie in a few, etc.

can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face

by Axion on Jun 20, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff.

Maddox pitch count @ 81 thru 6

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so he’s not going anywhere anytime soon…

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Four pitch 7th. Probably not.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddog

might take himself out, he usually does that around 80 pitches.

can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face

by Axion on Jun 20, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddox. Maddux. Damn.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

F Rod

warming up in the pen….

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

rodney...

anyone else not quite comfortable with him going in a 1-1 game?

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Better than with runners on

by Juskimo on Jun 20, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steady as a rock,

but I shoot with this hand!

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

See, I knew you wasn’t the Kid. You was just pulling my lariat.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

Just noticed the leadoff hitter for the Nats, Cristian Guzman, went 0 for 7 tonight (and they somehow won, in the 14th)

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

weird

Guzman is having a nice season.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd imagine

0 for 7 is something not many people have done.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rodney in the 7th

zumaya in the 8th, just like old times.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just kidding.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MARCUS!!!

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He doesn’t get nearly enough credit for his defense in LF.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shit.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bye eddie.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux is probably out now

Prepare for Heath “Taco” Bell

can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face

by Axion on Jun 20, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Homeruns??? In Petco?????

What is this Bizarro world…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just realized

Bonine is the name of a motion sickness medicine. Appropriate right now…

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tony Clark on Deck

Shit, that mean’s Higgys up soon….

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha… we’ll dont expect much of him

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't forget...

Kimera Bartee

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

where’s shane halter?

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does this mean we’ll see Damien Easley or Deano

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What did Dean Palmer do well? I just don’t remember him ever doing anything well

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hemmorage money.

He ate up salary at HOF levels.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he hit bombs for a couple of years there i think.. then his knees shut him down.

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That must have been when I was living in Co when I didn’t hear any Tiges news…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dean

In all fairness, I think he had back to back 100 RBI seasons with the Tigers.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And another QS + a loss if the offense doesn’t get on it.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heath bell...

is this guy on the david wells diet?

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Al Wishes

that Timo were available to pinch hit here.

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 11:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maddux

In ‘96 he went to a full count twice the entire season

by Grant E. on Jun 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thats incredible… thats why hes going to cooperstown

Jeff

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