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Game 73: Tigers (34-38) at Padres (31-43)

Detroit Tigers at San Diego Padres, Jun 20, 2008 10:05 PM EDT


Eddie Bonine (1-0, 10.13) vs. Greg Maddux (3-5, 3.31)

That "rematch of the 1984 World Series" stuff doesn't seem too pertinent when the Tigers and Padres faced each other just three years ago, does it?  Maybe that's a reason to dislike Interleague Play for some.  For me, it's a reason to love it.  I think it's great that we get to see the Tigers play at Petco Park and face one of the modern titans of pitching (Is that laying it on a bit thick?) in Greg Maddux.

Pitchers such as Maddux, who rely more on guile and deception rather than pure stuff, have given Detroit trouble in the past.  But the Tigers are basically beating every kind of pitcher right now, so maybe it doesn't matter.  Maddux is coming off one of his worst starts of the season, in which he gave up five runs (two earned) and eight hits in six innings vs. the Indians.  In his three appearances before that, however, Maddux allowed just four total runs over 19 innings.  Good hitting lineups have knocked him around this year, and right now, the Tigers are swinging the bat well.

Could this be Eddie Bonine's final start with the big league club?  He can certainly influence such a decision with a solid outing tonight.  But he really wasn't very good last Saturday against the Dodgers, giving up six runs on nine hits over 5 1/3 innings, and may have prompted the Tigers to begin thinking about other starting pitching options.  Bonine didn't walk any batters, which is how he works, but he does give up some hits.  I know some might think Petco Park's spaciousness could help him, but there's also a lot of space for hits to drop in if he can't keep the ball on the ground.

And will Joel Zumaya see some action tonight?  The Tigers officially activated him this afternoon, and would surely like to see what he's got.  Even if he's not great tonight, he can't possibly be worse than Fernando Rodney was on Monday, right?  Right?

Gaslamp Ball has your SB Nation opposing view for this three-game series.  If you happen to stop over there for some ribbing, please keep it civil.  We're all friends here.

And if you stopped over because of Blake's generous plug at The Spot Starters, it's much appreciated.  Thanks for joining the chatter and we hope you feel comfortable enough to stick around. 

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GLB'er stopping in

Before you kick the crap out of us and I get bitter… nice post and good luck.

can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face

by Axion on Jun 20, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, thanks for stopping by

I’m looking forward to checking in over there and chatting.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

zumaya

He won’t do worse than Rodney? Way to work the jinx, Ian.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

seriously

I don’t know if I could do worse in my first outing than Rodney did…

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starting Lineups

DETROIT

1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Marcus Thames, LF
7. Edgar Renteria, SS
8. Pudge Rodriguez, C
9. Eddie Bonine, P

SAN DIEGO

1. Jody Gerut, CF
2. Edgar Gonzalez, 2B
3. Brian Giles, RF
4. Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
5. Chase Headley, 3B
6. Scott Hairston, LF
7. Khalil Greene, SS
8. Michael Barrett, C
9. Greg Maddux, P

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Worse than Rodney?

Knock on wood. We hope not.

Guess who I got to see tonight. Al Kaline was in town to watch his grandson Colin play ball with the Battle Creek Bombers. It was a mob scene so I didn’t get an autograph but still got some pictures. Just thought I’d throw some small town trivia in there.

by densogirl on Jun 20, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm really looking forward to the Cards series

Tigers will honor ‘68 team. Kaline, Lolich, Horton etc. in attendence. That will be a lot of fun.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Denny McLain might be there if he can clear it with his parole officer, too.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

easy...

actually two years ago I caught the game against the cards that the tigers won in 10 (or was it 11) innings on a drive into the gap by Placido. Awesome game.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jody Gerut?

Seriously, who saw that one coming? Remember when he used to murder the Tigers?

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

At the risk of sounding like a jerk...

If the Shock game isn’t over by 10 pm, FSN Detroit is switching to the Tigers, right?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

If they don’t I would be shocked and would laugh in poor taste.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSN+

I would have to assume

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Programing Filler

This is most likely the most watched the shock has ever been

by KZone on Jun 20, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

KZone?

Does Joe Morgan know you’re hanging out with us on a Friday night? Is he jealous?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I have the week off, have to get rested up for Sunday night

by KZone on Jun 20, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heady

Is that Heady Lamar in their lineup? It’s Headley!!!!!!

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

blazing saddles?

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I suppose we could, don’t you….

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Consider it a tribute to the recently-departed Harvey Korman

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then

That’s a hell of a way the start this party

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Eddine Bonine and all...

I like our chances tonight. I’m feeling confident.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

he better hope they start giving him the inside corner..

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

pudge

still has it behind the plate. wow.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

But does Pudge make so many funny commercials back in Puerto Rico?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

How would we know?

Maybe he does! He’s a comic genius!

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

Feeling good.

Anybody know how Granderson’s lead-off homer stats stack up in the grand scheme of things? Seems like he’s got a pretty good number of them already.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Rickey Henderson holds the career record

With 81. Craig Biggio is second with 53. That was Grandy’s 10th of his career.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

so he's got a long way to go

Man, Rickey Henderson was a hell of a player.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool, thanks.

I’d’ve guessed he had more. But I guess you tend to remember them.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I woulda guessed more too

But that was his 10th out of 59 career, so still a pretty high percentage.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thames

Did you see that shot he threw to Polanco, no Jacque strap arm there..

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

In case you wondered...

Dave Gumpert wore #43 for the Tigers in the early 1980s. Almost the same type of pitcher a Senor Bonine. Carry on.

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Hedy's up!

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

How disappointing.

I don’t usually say that about doubles.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Tigers Career Leadoff HR Leader...

Lou Whitaker with 23. Grandy has the single-season record with 7, last season.

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Man busy crowd tonight

miss an inning and I’m 60 comments behind

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jun 20, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

With that said

I enjoy seeing a pitcher put the bat on the ball and actually try running it out, unlike…

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed...

I really hate NL baseball. Other than the fact the Tigers tend to pound NL teams…

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weren’t they talking about Rick Schu the other day on the Baseball Today podcast? Like he was supposed to supplant Mike Schmidt at 3rd base for the Phillies?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Chet?

Was that Lemon’s last year?

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep. Chet got cut

at the end of spring training in ‘91 when the Tigers signed Pete Incaviglia

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Urbano Lugo

Great name. I might give my son that.

Urbano Lugo Casselberry. Rolls off the tongue.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it's twins...

...the other can be Ugueth.

And the first girl can be Maggliana.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Milt Cuyler

I have an auto. pic some where of him that sent away for when I was a kid

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

These BC/BS Ads

make me ill. Hey, Ernie, what’s it like to be so close to death yet still able to plug our health plans?

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Aw..

...but I like the ads where Ernie tells us that it’s good to take a walk.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay...

and not to be a jerk and pile on Ernie, but does anyone ever see him on those commercials and just wonder what the hell he’s talking about? It’s like they put him in front of a camera and told him to talk about whatever he wanted to. They seldom make sense.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with Blake on this one

The commercials irk me. he seems like a babbling old man. i’d rather remember Ernie as Ernie.

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 20, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

BC/BS

I just hope mine can keep me talking at that age.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kudos to McClary!

Giving us the leadoff HR info before FSN Detroit.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Yoink

Steal for Grandy

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jun 20, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Tigers should steal a lot in this series

Padres have more bases stolen against them than any other ML team

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't believe Grandy only has 4 sb this year

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't either

but he did miss 3 weeks or so

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, he hasn't been on base all that much

Grady needs to step it up.

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Polly

Maddux made him look bad there, not often accomplished.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

Maddux is one of the all-times greats though

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone else see this on Deadspin today?

It’s Jim Leyland and Jim Flealand…

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jun 20, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Grandy - HR, Single, SB

Well, don’t just sit there, grasping your hands in pain. How about a little applause for the Waco Chicago Kid.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

don’t pay him no attention, he’s just an ol’e alchy

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sit tight

This may very well be the final score. :)

can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face

by Axion on Jun 20, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maggs seems to be swing and miss more fastballs lately

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Kenny Williams

Didn’t the current White Sox GM used to play for the Tigers. 1990 seems about right for that. Unless I’m making this up.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

What exactly...

Is that in the dirt on the mound next to the Padres logo.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Greg Maddux

Is getting a future hall of famer’s strikezone tonight

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Beer

Anyone else out there had a Leinenkugel’s Summer Shandy? I’m not sure what I think of it. I may like it and I may hate it, I just cannot figure it out.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Roommate can't get enough of it

I’m with you. I have no idea what to make of it. She loves the stuff, though.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

haven't had it yet

did have New Holland Brewing Co.’s Zommer. Pretty good summer brew

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

No matter what happens to Eddie Bonine

He can always say he struck out a hall of famer. (Doesn’t need to tell anyone it was Greg Maddux…)

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

haha

Good point.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stay away from anything from cheeseland

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

cool site – this being my first time on. nice to read your comments. and about the beer – i’m a bit fan of the summer shandy…gotta say.

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

nothing beats a oberon on a hot summer day

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

except....

about 20 busch lites and a juicy burger

by slomo984 on Jun 20, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, yes,

We do love the cheap awful beer, and plenty of it! But give me High Life.

by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Red Wings finally made their first round pick

Some Canadian kid, a goalie in the OHL.

Is their a more anti-climatic draft than the NHL’s? Oh yeah, MLB’s…

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd go NHL's

MLB’s draft is covered somewhat here in the US, so you at least have an idea who the first round talent is.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know I was pumped

last year when they grabbed Porcello

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The NHL draft is today?

Is it on Versus?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

The first round just ended

Versus carried the TSN feed. To be honest, what little I watched was snooze inducing.

Oooo, “Bloodsport” is starting on Versus now!

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Versus will just rely on TSN and CBC all the damn time.

Can the NHL PLEASE get a television contract with a real network? If you can’t afford your own broadcasts of the sport that’s exclusively yours in the U.S., just stop it. Go home, Versus.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giles is not the physical speciman

that he use to be. I wonder what happened? hmmm…

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by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

to be fair

he’s old now, and San Diego’s park is brutal for HR hitters.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm excited for NBA's version Thursday.

Any suggestions for the Pistons? DJ White? Will Douglas-Roberts be availiable? Personally, I’d like to see them take Bill Walker from K-State, knee injury and all.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Walker

I would have been all for Walker before the injury. He’s torn up both of his knees. Can’t trust that.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have complete faith in resident magician Arnie Kander. Otherwise, I’d be inclined to agree with you.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pistons

Drew Neitzel, who’s with me?

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, if Scott Skiles could have a decent NBA career

Why not Neitzel?

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Izzo was on the radio the other day

he didn’t sound to sure if he would even get drafted, but he did say that he would make a team somewhere

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by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

DJ

I would almost have to actually root for the Deetrooooit Baaaasketbaaal Pistons if they drafted the Big Boi from Bloomington!

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Zappa

What’s to like about Zappa anyway? I’ve tried his stuff a few times, I just don’t understand the appeal.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can understand that. Some of the music is way to out there, especially his lyrics. Mainly just the F* You attitude, but he was so intelligent I don’t think most understood him, including me at times.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never really caught on with Zappa, either.

My dad, however, love Zappa. And this is a guy whose other favorite musicians are Louis Armstrong, Coltrane, Thelonious Monk and Miles Davis. Seems like a completely different direction, no?

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Padres TV

was just showing footage of the Tigers winning the 68 series. good stuff

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

crap.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn, Hedy went yard...

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s probably a gum chewer…

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he brought enough for everyone…

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chase Headley

i do not like you

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by rock n rye on Jun 20, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Way to bounce back Bonine…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, and he wasn’t wasting any time doing it either

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before that Headley home run...

I was going to say that this felt like the most lopsided 1-0 game ever.

Now, not so much.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Can it be the most lopsided 1-1 game ever…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Grandy keeps facing Maddux, it might be.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I smell a Bonine homer

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Better defensive pitcher Maddux or Kenny?

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb

by miggy4mvp on Jun 20, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

3 for 3 … nice granderson

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey there Paul

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey man…good to see you again.

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

crap

he got thrown out stealing.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Granderson was safe!

I didn’t need the replay to confirm it.

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was safe

But the ball beat him there.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Maddux’s strike zone extends to second base.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah..

luckily, he very rarely goes past six innings.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

that

was a disappointing inning

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Polly

will be the happiest man in the stadium when Maddux comes out of the game.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Madduz?

When will i learn to use preview?

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim Joyce...

Did he borrow Goose Gosage’s mustache tonight? Must be paying tribute to the ‘84 WS.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Maddux

Has a miniature version of Gene Lamont’s body.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Ya

It’s actually nice to have a pitcher that throws strikes, when the D is playing well too.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait...

Did Mario just say that that was Grandy’s 16th leadoff HR?

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Maddux might be the smartest man in baseball for signing with the Padres. That park makes him look good.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I thought Comerica ad deep power alleys...

Lynn Henning would go into apoplectic fits writing about the unfairness of the fences every week if he were in SD.

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This day in MLB history

Miggy finished off his Major League debut with a walk home run!

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

So now that we’ve come to some… uhhh… errr… revelations regarding Roger Clemens, the Mad Dog has to go down as the greatest pitcher of his generation, right?

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I say so

you could argue the case for Randy Johnson too

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randy

hasn’t had the consistency that Maddox has, I think he’s alone in front without the sterocket…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate

Schilling, but he hasn’t been too bad himself. Glavine, Smoltz….damn the Braves had a stable. I would put all of them in a group at the top.

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddux

is a cut above some of the other HOF pitchers who pitched with him. Maddux is definitely in a class better than Schilling, Glavine, and Smoltz (but I do think they are all HOF’ers)

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddux.

From 1993-97, Mad Dog’s average season looks like this:

18-6, 2.13 ERA, a 5.7/1 K/BB ratio and a .95 WHIP

Really? A .95 whip. Over five seasons. That’s un-freaking-believable.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure of one thing...

The Big Unit had better hair than the Rocket. Unit had a rockin’ mullet.

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

HAD

I think it is still there, in the ‘lite’ form

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Replay

Would anyone be against replay in baseball if they used the same rules as the NFL? You only get three challenges per game and if you’re correct you don’t get penalized.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

i don’t know…i mean it would help with plays like that at second…but there’s something about the human element of baseball that i love. even if a call doesn’t go your way

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

true, true.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Renteria, but we need a younger shortstop with some range…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

good evening everyone! what a pick!

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

nice turn.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

That. Was. Sweet.

One advantage of having a former third baseman playing first.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it me

or does Cabrera look more comfy at first these days?

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm with ya...

he looks pretty pretty pretty pretty good.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another fine

Curb Your Enthusiasm reference!

by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not just you...

Miggy looks at home playing st.

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by BigAl on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also looks thinner, of course that could just be because the team is actually winning now…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pads tv

just zoomed in on Miggy, the kid is laboring! What did he do, throw the ball to second?

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think so. looks very fluent over there. any one know where maddox pitch count is?

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bonine

is not getting the calls Maddux is getting. Not at all.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

oh come on...

just what i was going to say blake

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

that inside corner was called several times for maddux…and not at all for bonine

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddux vs RJ

Maddux: 350-219, 3.12 ERA (all in the NL), 3318 K’s
RJ: 288-154, 3.25 ERA (10 season in AL), 4686 K’s

I still would take Maddux, but like I said, you could make the case that The Big Unit was the most dominant pitcher of his day.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I always forget how many K’s Randy gets…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s too bad his Yanks time got so much publicity, I’ll agree a good case can be made…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it just me..

or do these NL games go by really, really fast?

by spartyboy40 on Jun 20, 2008 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, theres an automatic out every 9 batters. not a big fan.

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddux

He’s double-parked, has a dinner reservation, is catching a movie in a few, etc.

can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face

by Axion on Jun 20, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeff.

Maddox pitch count @ 81 thru 6

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

so he’s not going anywhere anytime soon…

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Four pitch 7th. Probably not.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddog

might take himself out, he usually does that around 80 pitches.

can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face

by Axion on Jun 20, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddox. Maddux. Damn.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

F Rod

warming up in the pen….

by Zappatista on Jun 20, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

rodney...

anyone else not quite comfortable with him going in a 1-1 game?

by weso33 on Jun 20, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Better than with runners on

by Juskimo on Jun 20, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, I knew you wasn’t the Kid. You was just pulling my lariat.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch

Just noticed the leadoff hitter for the Nats, Cristian Guzman, went 0 for 7 tonight (and they somehow won, in the 14th)

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

weird

Guzman is having a nice season.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd imagine

0 for 7 is something not many people have done.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

rodney in the 7th

zumaya in the 8th, just like old times.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

just kidding.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

MARCUS!!!

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

He doesn’t get nearly enough credit for his defense in LF.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

shit.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

bye eddie.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddux is probably out now

Prepare for Heath “Taco” Bell

can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face

by Axion on Jun 20, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I just realized

Bonine is the name of a motion sickness medicine. Appropriate right now…

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 20, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Tony Clark on Deck

Shit, that mean’s Higgys up soon….

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

don't forget...

Kimera Bartee

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

where’s shane halter?

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this mean we’ll see Damien Easley or Deano

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

What did Dean Palmer do well? I just don’t remember him ever doing anything well

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hemmorage money.

He ate up salary at HOF levels.

by Grant E. on Jun 20, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

he hit bombs for a couple of years there i think.. then his knees shut him down.

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That must have been when I was living in Co when I didn’t hear any Tiges news…

by busta on Jun 20, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

dean

In all fairness, I think he had back to back 100 RBI seasons with the Tigers.

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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

heath bell...

is this guy on the david wells diet?

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 20, 2008 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Maddux

In ‘96 he went to a full count twice the entire season

by Grant E. on Jun 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

thats incredible… thats why hes going to cooperstown

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

!!!!!yes!!!!!

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

he was due

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

And he knew it! How many times will you see Polanco make the trot?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa Polly!

Did he just give us a little Sammy Sosa hop there?

by Grant E. on Jun 21, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

he hit the crap out of that ball

by weso33 on Jun 21, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

we've got this one now

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

YES! Polanco ties it up!

We still have a ball games, folks!

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by BigAl on Jun 21, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

of course he homers in a game he k's twice

it must be opposite day

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by rock n rye on Jun 21, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

no

they pinch hit for Eddie

by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 21, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's out...

Larish pinch hit

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

and again...

...all these homers in petco…

by weso33 on Jun 21, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

he had the little sosa hop going on ther

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

i'll take

extras tonight.. i still have some beer left.

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

yikes

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

he's way off

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

get him out of there.

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

no good…get him out of there…

by weso33 on Jun 21, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

A 4 pitch walk, none of them close to the plate...

Yikes!

Get the pen busy, stat!

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by BigAl on Jun 21, 2008 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

double play ball…now..

by busta on Jun 21, 2008 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

throwing a strike is probably a reasonable goal to start with

by spartyboy40 on Jun 21, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

no way…give the guy a break…that was a strike…

by weso33 on Jun 21, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Good Lord. he's gonna bunt!

He wants to bunt!! Yet Rodney can’t get the ball near the plate. 8 straight balls, get him out of there!

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by BigAl on Jun 21, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

we are in trouble here

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

was watching the game at a bar….
with ROdney in there….maybe it’s better I came home and don’t have to actually see this….

by ahtrap on Jun 21, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

gotta tell ya...

not feeling great about fossom in there either

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Really, how could you feel good about this?

by Grant E. on Jun 21, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah theres really no way

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

On one hand...

That has to be an awful feeling, not knowing where the ball is going.

But man, you have to get it done, too.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel for the guy, but like you said...

You gotta get it done.

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by BigAl on Jun 21, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rodney's

WHIP is 18.00

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

ZUMAYA

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Railing on Chuck

Probably. I’ve seen him griping at McClendon sometimes, too.

Good Lord!

by densogirl on Jun 21, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Strikes. Throw them.

by Grant E. on Jun 21, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

well

atleast we have the force at home now….

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

i'm not happy

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Fossum is the guy Lynn Henning thinks should be the Tigers 5th starter?

I want what drugs he’s taking.

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by BigAl on Jun 21, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

screw this, i'm going ot bed

what a bunch of jerks.

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

can’t now with zumaya comin in

by weso33 on Jun 21, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Rodney

likes Tony Packo’s, he’s should be getting plenty of opportunities to eat there while he’s living in Toledo.

by Zappatista on Jun 21, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Do we have an elementary school affiliate that we can send him to?

by Grant E. on Jun 21, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we soon find out if Zumaya still has it...

My fingers are crossed.

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by BigAl on Jun 21, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m just thinking to myself…don’t go all Prior on us…

by busta on Jun 21, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like to complain about the umps

Yet it seems the Tigers pitchers are getting squeezed on some of these pitches. Not all, but close ones aren’t going their way.

by MikeMcClary on Jun 21, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

All I wanna do is

Zooma Zoom Zoom (Shake Yo Rump)

by Juskimo on Jun 21, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

i was wrong

I was telling all my buddies that it was mr 350 wins vs third major league start….guess Bonine was only on #2…has there ever been a greater spread in experience/hall of fame credentials?

by ahtrap on Jun 21, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

That's a good question...

I’m too lazy to look up the answer though…

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by BigAl on Jun 21, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

boy he sure does look thin

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

this is terrible

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

goodbye cruel world

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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

dude…this sucks…

by busta on Jun 21, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

how was that not a strike…

by busta on Jun 21, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

this pads team didn’t get 6 runs the whole series vs new york!

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Greene homered with one out in the 7th. Now he’s hitting with no outs in the 8th. Damn.

by Grant E. on Jun 21, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

thats just swell. i hate to say it but he peaked in 06.

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did Denny Bautista do a U-turn on I-75?

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure someone has an infinite career era…i don’t know if that would make ROdney feel better, to know that it could possibly get worse, but…i thought I’d mention it, just in case he needs a pick up….

by ahtrap on Jun 21, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

As soon as someone can get an out, Big Al!!

God only know when that will be. Maybe we’ll see Jonesy come in next.

by densogirl on Jun 21, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I think we will see the Rollercoaster....

At least Jones can throw the occasional strike! It’s a good trait for a relief pitcher to have, you know…

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by BigAl on Jun 21, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok...

come on big boys. its not over yet.

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

ok...

now its pretty much over.

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

now with a 4 run lead for the Padres

the Tigers won’t get a chance to hassle the Hoff

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jun 21, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I think they just said

the Tigers have been out scored 120-80 in the 7, 8, and 9th innings this year….sounds about right

by Zappatista on Jun 21, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

How many handicapped people did McNulty just take out?

Man, what a disappointing game.

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by BigAl on Jun 21, 2008 12:43 AM EDT reply actions  

great catch… horrible pen for the cats

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great GameThread Tonight

Thanks, everyone!

Wish the game would’ve rewarded us.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 12:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised

If the guy in the wheelchair put the ball back in his glove! Seriously.

by densogirl on Jun 21, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

thats ok...

didn’t lose a game to the sux… bounce back tomorrow.

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

is it over? yahoo got stuck with Bobby seay coming on to relieve Zoom

by ahtrap on Jun 21, 2008 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

thats how quick the 9th went. hehe

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

What to do about Rodney, though.

My God, he’s been awful and is supposedly cured from his bout of tendonitis. Hernandez must be pulling his hair out. 2 awful outings from Rodney since his return.

by densogirl on Jun 21, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

i'm still in shock

that Fossum is a Tiger and Bautista isn’t . Ay – yi – yi.

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 21, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah.. didnt really see that one coming.

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

rodney has to go. i don’t want to hear about tendinitis anymore. the guy never had it and had a fluke year in 06.. that my opinion anyway.

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Jun 21, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rodney

what a letdown of a game… just finished watching the Tivo of this game… frustrating. what a wasted opportunity

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