Game 73: Tigers (34-38) at Padres (31-43)
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
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PrintDetroit Tigers at San Diego Padres, Jun 20, 2008 10:05 PM EDT
Eddie Bonine (1-0, 10.13) vs. 
Greg Maddux (3-5, 3.31)
That "rematch of the 1984 World Series" stuff doesn't seem too pertinent when the Tigers and Padres faced each other just three years ago, does it? Maybe that's a reason to dislike Interleague Play for some. For me, it's a reason to love it. I think it's great that we get to see the Tigers play at Petco Park and face one of the modern titans of pitching (Is that laying it on a bit thick?) in Greg Maddux.
Pitchers such as Maddux, who rely more on guile and deception rather than pure stuff, have given Detroit trouble in the past. But the Tigers are basically beating every kind of pitcher right now, so maybe it doesn't matter. Maddux is coming off one of his worst starts of the season, in which he gave up five runs (two earned) and eight hits in six innings vs. the Indians. In his three appearances before that, however, Maddux allowed just four total runs over 19 innings. Good hitting lineups have knocked him around this year, and right now, the Tigers are swinging the bat well.
Could this be Eddie Bonine's final start with the big league club? He can certainly influence such a decision with a solid outing tonight. But he really wasn't very good last Saturday against the Dodgers, giving up six runs on nine hits over 5 1/3 innings, and may have prompted the Tigers to begin thinking about other starting pitching options. Bonine didn't walk any batters, which is how he works, but he does give up some hits. I know some might think Petco Park's spaciousness could help him, but there's also a lot of space for hits to drop in if he can't keep the ball on the ground.
And will Joel Zumaya see some action tonight? The Tigers officially activated him this afternoon, and would surely like to see what he's got. Even if he's not great tonight, he can't possibly be worse than Fernando Rodney was on Monday, right? Right?
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GLB'er stopping in
Before you kick the crap out of us and I get bitter… nice post and good luck.
can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face
Hey, thanks for stopping by
I’m looking forward to checking in over there and chatting.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
zumaya
He won’t do worse than Rodney? Way to work the jinx, Ian.
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Starting Lineups
DETROIT
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Marcus Thames, LF
7. Edgar Renteria, SS
8. Pudge Rodriguez, C
9. Eddie Bonine, P
SAN DIEGO
1. Jody Gerut, CF
2. Edgar Gonzalez, 2B
3. Brian Giles, RF
4. Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
5. Chase Headley, 3B
6. Scott Hairston, LF
7. Khalil Greene, SS
8. Michael Barrett, C
9. Greg Maddux, P
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
Worse than Rodney?
Knock on wood. We hope not.
Guess who I got to see tonight. Al Kaline was in town to watch his grandson Colin play ball with the Battle Creek Bombers. It was a mob scene so I didn’t get an autograph but still got some pictures. Just thought I’d throw some small town trivia in there.
How cool is that?
And pictures to show for it.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm really looking forward to the Cards series
Tigers will honor ‘68 team. Kaline, Lolich, Horton etc. in attendence. That will be a lot of fun.
easy...
actually two years ago I caught the game against the cards that the tigers won in 10 (or was it 11) innings on a drive into the gap by Placido. Awesome game.
Jody Gerut?
Seriously, who saw that one coming? Remember when he used to murder the Tigers?
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At the risk of sounding like a jerk...
If the Shock game isn’t over by 10 pm, FSN Detroit is switching to the Tigers, right?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
wow
If they don’t I would be shocked and would laugh in poor taste.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Programing Filler
This is most likely the most watched the shock has ever been
KZone?
Does Joe Morgan know you’re hanging out with us on a Friday night? Is he jealous?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't always get a chance to see my brother x-mo in action
thought I would check him out
blazing saddles?
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
What, no Shock Live?
Where’s the post-game show?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Eddine Bonine and all...
I like our chances tonight. I’m feeling confident.
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pudge
still has it behind the plate. wow.
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But does Pudge make so many funny commercials back in Puerto Rico?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
How would we know?
Maybe he does! He’s a comic genius!
by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
Feeling good.
Anybody know how Granderson’s lead-off homer stats stack up in the grand scheme of things? Seems like he’s got a pretty good number of them already.
by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
Rickey Henderson holds the career record
With 81. Craig Biggio is second with 53. That was Grandy’s 10th of his career.
Cool, thanks.
I’d’ve guessed he had more. But I guess you tend to remember them.
by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I woulda guessed more too
But that was his 10th out of 59 career, so still a pretty high percentage.
In case you wondered...
Dave Gumpert wore #43 for the Tigers in the early 1980s. Almost the same type of pitcher a Senor Bonine. Carry on.
How disappointing.
I don’t usually say that about doubles.
by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
Tigers Career Leadoff HR Leader...
Lou Whitaker with 23. Grandy has the single-season record with 7, last season.
Man busy crowd tonight
miss an inning and I’m 60 comments behind
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
With that said
I enjoy seeing a pitcher put the bat on the ball and actually try running it out, unlike…
Weren’t they talking about Rick Schu the other day on the Baseball Today podcast? Like he was supposed to supplant Mike Schmidt at 3rd base for the Phillies?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
Must've been.
I was surprised to see his name, too.
by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I've got the same birthday as Chet Lemon.
That made me very happy as a ten year old.
by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. Chet got cut
at the end of spring training in ‘91 when the Tigers signed Pete Incaviglia
by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
If it's twins...
...the other can be Ugueth.
And the first girl can be Maggliana.
by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Milt Cuyler
I have an auto. pic some where of him that sent away for when I was a kid
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
These BC/BS Ads
make me ill. Hey, Ernie, what’s it like to be so close to death yet still able to plug our health plans?
I didn't mean that as anti-Ernie...
... as much as BC/BS going with that type of campaign. Oy!
by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Aw..
...but I like the ads where Ernie tells us that it’s good to take a walk.
by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay...
and not to be a jerk and pile on Ernie, but does anyone ever see him on those commercials and just wonder what the hell he’s talking about? It’s like they put him in front of a camera and told him to talk about whatever he wanted to. They seldom make sense.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Ernie DOES NOT HAVE to make sense.
He is Ernie Harwell. We are not.
by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm with Blake on this one
The commercials irk me. he seems like a babbling old man. i’d rather remember Ernie as Ernie.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 20, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I figure Ernie has earned the right to pretty much do as he wants
I just ignore he ads.
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Kudos to McClary!
Giving us the leadoff HR info before FSN Detroit.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
Tigers should steal a lot in this series
Padres have more bases stolen against them than any other ML team
I can't believe Grandy only has 4 sb this year
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
Unfortunately, he hasn't been on base all that much
Grady needs to step it up.
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anyone else see this on Deadspin today?
It’s Jim Leyland and Jim Flealand…
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
Grandy - HR, Single, SB
Well, don’t just sit there, grasping your hands in pain. How about a little applause for the Waco Chicago Kid.
Maggs seems to be swing and miss more fastballs lately
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
Kenny Williams
Didn’t the current White Sox GM used to play for the Tigers. 1990 seems about right for that. Unless I’m making this up.
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I’m still giggling at Jim Flealand. I may have had a few pops before the game.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
Beer
Anyone else out there had a Leinenkugel’s Summer Shandy? I’m not sure what I think of it. I may like it and I may hate it, I just cannot figure it out.
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Roommate can't get enough of it
I’m with you. I have no idea what to make of it. She loves the stuff, though.
haven't had it yet
did have New Holland Brewing Co.’s Zommer. Pretty good summer brew
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
No matter what happens to Eddie Bonine
He can always say he struck out a hall of famer. (Doesn’t need to tell anyone it was Greg Maddux…)
haha
Good point.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
nothing beats a oberon on a hot summer day
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
except....
about 20 busch lites and a juicy burger
Oh, yes,
We do love the cheap awful beer, and plenty of it! But give me High Life.
by Matt in Toledo on Jun 20, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The Red Wings finally made their first round pick
Some Canadian kid, a goalie in the OHL.
Is their a more anti-climatic draft than the NHL’s? Oh yeah, MLB’s…
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I'd go NHL's
MLB’s draft is covered somewhat here in the US, so you at least have an idea who the first round talent is.
The first round just ended
Versus carried the TSN feed. To be honest, what little I watched was snooze inducing.
Oooo, “Bloodsport” is starting on Versus now!
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Versus will just rely on TSN and CBC all the damn time.
Can the NHL PLEASE get a television contract with a real network? If you can’t afford your own broadcasts of the sport that’s exclusively yours in the U.S., just stop it. Go home, Versus.
Giles is not the physical speciman
that he use to be. I wonder what happened? hmmm…
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
I'm excited for NBA's version Thursday.
Any suggestions for the Pistons? DJ White? Will Douglas-Roberts be availiable? Personally, I’d like to see them take Bill Walker from K-State, knee injury and all.
Walker
I would have been all for Walker before the injury. He’s torn up both of his knees. Can’t trust that.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, if Scott Skiles could have a decent NBA career
Why not Neitzel?
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Izzo was on the radio the other day
he didn’t sound to sure if he would even get drafted, but he did say that he would make a team somewhere
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DJ
I would almost have to actually root for the Deetrooooit Baaaasketbaaal Pistons if they drafted the Big Boi from Bloomington!
Zappa
What’s to like about Zappa anyway? I’ve tried his stuff a few times, I just don’t understand the appeal.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never really caught on with Zappa, either.
My dad, however, love Zappa. And this is a guy whose other favorite musicians are Louis Armstrong, Coltrane, Thelonious Monk and Miles Davis. Seems like a completely different direction, no?
Before that Headley home run...
I was going to say that this felt like the most lopsided 1-0 game ever.
Now, not so much.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions
If Grandy keeps facing Maddux, it might be.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Better defensive pitcher Maddux or Kenny?
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
Hey there Paul
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
crap
he got thrown out stealing.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit
Boy, they had that called right.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions
Maddux’s strike zone extends to second base.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah..
luckily, he very rarely goes past six innings.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Maddux
Has a miniature version of Gene Lamont’s body.
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Blink and you missed it
That was a fast 5th inning for the Pads.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions
Maddux might be the smartest man in baseball for signing with the Padres. That park makes him look good.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
And I thought Comerica ad deep power alleys...
Lynn Henning would go into apoplectic fits writing about the unfairness of the fences every week if he were in SD.
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So now that we’ve come to some… uhhh… errr… revelations regarding Roger Clemens, the Mad Dog has to go down as the greatest pitcher of his generation, right?
I hate
Schilling, but he hasn’t been too bad himself. Glavine, Smoltz….damn the Braves had a stable. I would put all of them in a group at the top.
Maddux
is a cut above some of the other HOF pitchers who pitched with him. Maddux is definitely in a class better than Schilling, Glavine, and Smoltz (but I do think they are all HOF’ers)
I'm sure of one thing...
The Big Unit had better hair than the Rocket. Unit had a rockin’ mullet.
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Replay
Would anyone be against replay in baseball if they used the same rules as the NFL? You only get three challenges per game and if you’re correct you don’t get penalized.
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i don’t know…i mean it would help with plays like that at second…but there’s something about the human element of baseball that i love. even if a call doesn’t go your way
true, true.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That. Was. Sweet.
One advantage of having a former third baseman playing first.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Freddy Dolsi was watching that.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely
which makes us ALL more comfy
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm with ya...
he looks pretty pretty pretty pretty good.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Another fine
Curb Your Enthusiasm reference!
by MikeMcClary on Jun 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Bonine
is not getting the calls Maddux is getting. Not at all.
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oh come on...
just what i was going to say blake
Maddux vs RJ
Maddux: 350-219, 3.12 ERA (all in the NL), 3318 K’s
RJ: 288-154, 3.25 ERA (10 season in AL), 4686 K’s
I still would take Maddux, but like I said, you could make the case that The Big Unit was the most dominant pitcher of his day.
Is it just me..
or do these NL games go by really, really fast?
Ouch
Just noticed the leadoff hitter for the Nats, Cristian Guzman, went 0 for 7 tonight (and they somehow won, in the 14th)
weird
Guzman is having a nice season.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
rodney in the 7th
zumaya in the 8th, just like old times.
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Thames did his damnedest to try and knock down the LF wall!
Nice catch!
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He doesn’t get nearly enough credit for his defense in LF.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
bye eddie.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Maddux is probably out now
Prepare for Heath “Taco” Bell
can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face
If Tony Clark does something here...
I will break something.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 20, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
don't forget...
Kimera Bartee
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
dean
In all fairness, I think he had back to back 100 RBI seasons with the Tigers.
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by spotstarters on Jun 20, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
heath bell...
is this guy on the david wells diet?
Jeff
And he knew it! How many times will you see Polanco make the trot?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
of course he homers in a game he k's twice
it must be opposite day
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he's out...
Larish pinch hit
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
i'll take
extras tonight.. i still have some beer left.
Jeff
A 4 pitch walk, none of them close to the plate...
Yikes!
Get the pen busy, stat!
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but the guy just wants to bunt
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
throwing a strike is probably a reasonable goal to start with
by spartyboy40 on Jun 21, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Good Lord. he's gonna bunt!
He wants to bunt!! Yet Rodney can’t get the ball near the plate. 8 straight balls, get him out of there!
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gotta tell ya...
not feeling great about fossom in there either
Jeff
On one hand...
That has to be an awful feeling, not knowing where the ball is going.
But man, you have to get it done, too.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Fossum is the guy Lynn Henning thinks should be the Tigers 5th starter?
I want what drugs he’s taking.
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screw this, i'm going ot bed
what a bunch of jerks.
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i know
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Lakeland needs to add one to its pitching staff...
and Denny Bautista was DFA’d. . .
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 21, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
I hope Rodney
likes Tony Packo’s, he’s should be getting plenty of opportunities to eat there while he’s living in Toledo.
Well, we soon find out if Zumaya still has it...
My fingers are crossed.
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I know they have to bring Zumaya in here
But I don’t like this.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions
He's probably so amped right now
it ain’t safe
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by MikeMcClary on Jun 21, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't like to complain about the umps
Yet it seems the Tigers pitchers are getting squeezed on some of these pitches. Not all, but close ones aren’t going their way.
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i was wrong
I was telling all my buddies that it was mr 350 wins vs third major league start….guess Bonine was only on #2…has there ever been a greater spread in experience/hall of fame credentials?
That's a good question...
I’m too lazy to look up the answer though…
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Did Denny Bautista do a U-turn on I-75?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty brutal situation to throw him into
But they needed Zoom to bring the heat.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
As soon as someone can get an out, Big Al!!
God only know when that will be. Maybe we’ll see Jonesy come in next.
I think we will see the Rollercoaster....
At least Jones can throw the occasional strike! It’s a good trait for a relief pitcher to have, you know…
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now with a 4 run lead for the Padres
the Tigers won’t get a chance to hassle the Hoff
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I think they just said
the Tigers have been out scored 120-80 in the 7, 8, and 9th innings this year….sounds about right
How many handicapped people did McNulty just take out?
Man, what a disappointing game.
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thats ok...
didn’t lose a game to the sux… bounce back tomorrow.
Jeff
What to do about Rodney, though.
My God, he’s been awful and is supposedly cured from his bout of tendonitis. Hernandez must be pulling his hair out. 2 awful outings from Rodney since his return.
i'm still in shock
that Fossum is a Tiger and Bautista isn’t . Ay – yi – yi.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 21, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Rodney
what a letdown of a game… just finished watching the Tivo of this game… frustrating. what a wasted opportunity
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