Game 74: Tigers (34-39) at Padres (32-43)
Detroit Tigers at San Diego Padres, Jun 21, 2008 10:05 PM EDT
Nate Robertson (5-6, 5.46) vs.
Cha Seung Baek (1-2, 4.84)
After last night's 6-2 loss, I figured we could use a bit of a laugh. So if you haven't seen this yet, courtesy of Deadspin (and rock n rye, who posted it in the GameThread), here's Jim Leyland and his mascot counterpart, "Jim Flealand."

Any chance there were more photos taken after this? I mean, Leyland and Flealand at least went outside for a smoke, right? Another question to consider might be whether or not Flealand would give Fernando Rodney the ball right now.
Moving onto tonight's game, Cha Seung Baek makes his fourth start for the Padres since being traded from Seattle in late May. And he's thrown quality starts in two of his last three appearances. But it's Baek's start on May 9 of last year that we should probably talk about. That night, he pitched a complete game against the Tigers at Comerica Park, holding Detroit to two runs on six hits. Three of the players who got hits were Brandon Inge, Gary Sheffield, and Craig Monroe.
What can be expected from Nate Robertson tonight? Usually, he alternates between good starts and bad starts. But he's pitched well in his last two appearances. Actually, he was outstanding last Sunday against the Dodgers, allowing no runs on four hits in six innings. So is he due for a return to giving up four runs a game? Or has Nate had something of a breakthrough?
Ready to spend your S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night in a GameThread?
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Starting Lineups
I didn’t think Inge would play tonight, which is why I mentioned him as one of the players who got a hit off Baek last May. Actually, he went 2-for-3, which might be one reason Leyland is playing him.
DETROIT
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Edgar Renteria, SS
7. Clete Thomas, LF
8. Brandon Inge, C
9. Nate Robertson, P
SAN DIEGO
1. Scott Hairston, LF
2. Jody Gerut, CF
3. Edgar Gonzalez, 2B
4. Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
5. Chase Headley, 3B
6. Khalil Greene, SS
7. Michael Barrett, C
8. Paul McAnulty, RF
9. Cha Seung Baek, P
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions
Flealand
The antennae are kind of a lame, low-key effort to get to they Flea part of the name, aren’t they? It’s kind of funny they sent him up to the press box when Leyland was in there. Or maybe Jim requested to meet his arachnoid doppelganger.
And who’s this other Matt in Toledo who keeps getting me mentioned in game threads in which I didn’t participate?
There are two Matt in Toledos? Or Matts in Toledo? Oh, this might be a problem.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Multiple Matts in Toledo!
Okay, there’s “Matt in Toledo” and “mattintoledo” (otherwise known as Take 75 North). I’ll have to remind myself to look at the spaces in the name.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The Walrus
I want to know what connection there is between the one who posts on here and the radio station that was broadcasting the game out of San Diego last night.
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 21, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
None I guess
Not sure what you mean? The San Diego channel has someone called The Walrus? (By the way, I’m a Matt too, but not in Toledo…)
Not a someone
a some THING. A station that they refer to as “The Walrus” At least that’s what they kept saying last night on XM
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 21, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Will Nate be Great tonight?
And how come no more gum time this year?
Greetings….first time long time here…..well if 6 months counts as long.
- Jeff in Grand Rapids
Welcome!
“First time, long time” – love it.
Hope you stick around. And I think we have more Spartans here than Wolverines.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
One of each
Pudge caught last Sunday, Inge the start before that.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The Rodney Plan
“he had his relievers throw five minutes almost every day, but not real hard”
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
I lived in East Lansing
But left Michigan before reaching college age.
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 21, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What if Rodney......
throws for five minutes without throwing a strike? Does he throw for a sixth minute?
Hey, Ian
Good start tonight.
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
McAnulty = Rowand, Jr.?
Dude throws himself all over the field – into walls, onto the grass, etc.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
Cabrera...
I smell a two run homer. I feel it.
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sorry...
that’s my fault.
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You meant at some point in this game, of course.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you, yes.
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Guillen at third
Looking VERY comfortable now.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
inge
sometimes it just looks like he has no clue what pitch is coming.
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I hope the Tigers brought some runs tonight
Because it looks like ‘Bad Nate’ is pitching.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
agreed
he doesn’t look great. although that headley hit was lucky.
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
okay...
time to get rodney warmed up in the pen. who’s with me!?
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Bronx cheer for Nate
Got McAnulty out.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe Leyland had everyone throw for five minutes before the game.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
damn
When Granderson’s got it going he’s so much fun to watch.
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Not that I'm complaining
But was Headley’s throw so bad that Gonzalez couldn’t even try for it?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 21, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
i agree...
although they’ve been given more of a chance it seems like lately…but yeah, he’s quick enough that he should be allowed to go more often
sweet
I leave for five minutes while my wife is going to bed and miss that gem? Maybe I should just turn the TV off.
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Just got home from Holland State Park turn on the game
and I the 1st thing I see is one of the best outfield assist ever,
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
Well..
It’s no Jose Canseco using his head, but it’s right up there!
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 21, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that is true, but the tigers did benefit from this one
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
Nate...
Is getting hit fairly hard. Hopefully he can get through five or six innings with minimal damage.
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rodney
I think it’s a fairly safe bet he doesn’t get into this game.
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Man what’s goin on, I’m trapt in a cottage with no cable, fringe wireless and basically excommunicated from the world
4-3 tigers
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Leyland...
should have brought Nate in to face Gonzalez last night, he apparently has this guys number.
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This would be a big win if we can get it
The White Sox lost this afternoon to the Cubs (two straight losses). Meanwhile, the Red Sox got HAMMERED by St. Louis, who’s conveniently caught fire (6 HRs in 2 games) right before they hit the CoPa. And the Tribe won in LA and CC hit a HR well over 400 ft. Absolutely crushed it. If he is going to have Cecil Fielder’s body, he might as well hit like Cecel. Maybe Cleveland will have him replace Pronk.
I gotta fess up
The “free beer” in the hotel Wednesday night turned out to be Coors Light. I don’t know how they can even call that beer.
but it was free
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
that’s a real shame. gross.
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Horse Pee
It was so bad, I had to quit after the third one.
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 21, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Went out to a steak joint
and paid for Shiner Bock
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 21, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
no not at all, but I do give him a pass because it was free
if you drink enough of it wouldn’t even realize that it was coors
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
XM
Last night the San Diego announcers were talking about him and how he lost his job to Miggy. Then they say “But Inge can flat-out HIT!”
I wondered where to acquire the drugs they have been taking.
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 21, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Somebody in here was talking the other night about SF or SD announcers calling Pudge “the toughest out in the Tigers lineup.” Ha!
Those guys are so miserable
I’m watching it on gameday rather than turn on the XM
by pfuhrmeister on Jun 21, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd feel a lot better...
if we could get two or three more runs here. One run is not enough with our pen.
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nate better not walk the pitcher.
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doesn't that say something about his control?
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, how much does Hairston look like his brother?
When FSN showed his stats under the name “Scott Hairston”, I laughed and thought “But that’s Jerry Hairston.” Didn’t figure it out until Rod and Mario talked about it in the 2nd or 3rd inning.
wow...
Granderson was playing really shallow right there.
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I wonder...
if that’s his call or Leyland’s?
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Hey...
We all knew we’d need more runs than this to win the game anyway.
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Randy Wolf..
Doesn’t he seem like the sort of guy who would dominate the Tigers? Just sayin’.
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dagnabit
I get to deal with all my cubs fan friends getting hyped over them beating the white sox, which I can tolerate because the sox are losing ahead of us, and then the Padres are taking out the Tigers again? That’s frustrating…..
also...
aside the gerut mess up, we are not catching many breaks in this series.
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Robertson
has had an up and down outing. Everything was being hit hard early. Then he retired something like 10 straight. Then back to everything being hit hard, now maybe back to getting everyone out…
he's trusting a hitter below the mendoza line......
to hit a deep fly ball?
more rookie confidence boosting…...
keep it up, please.
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
totally planned
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by spotstarters on Jun 21, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
marcus
time to park one in the seats.
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god
I don’t believe in God, but if I did, my God would be Marcus Thames.
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seay and/or miner et al
better not blow this one
that was a serious blast
i have the game on mute, did we get a distance on that one?
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I'm only 26
but I have thought the same thing.
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by spotstarters on Jun 22, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry...lol.. im 21...
but who is gates brown?
by dettigionswings'stons on Jun 22, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/brownga01.shtml
In his pinch-hitting at bats in the 1968 season, Brown hit for a .450 batting average, the eighth highest single season batting average for a pinch hitter (minimum 30 at bats) in major league history.
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by spotstarters on Jun 22, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I still don't trust him at all.
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by spotstarters on Jun 22, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I trust him by default
who is trustworthy in the pen? Roller Coaster? The kid who had 1 inning above A ball before this year (Dolsi)?
good point.
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by spotstarters on Jun 22, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Miner
His ERA in June is 1.08, though he nearly gave up that win against the Indians a couple of weeks ago.
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yeah, that's a given
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by spotstarters on Jun 22, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
inge
i’ve been in and out all game – how has he looked behind the plate?
who pitches the 8th?
Seay and Dolsi and then Jones in the 9th?
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Guessing Seay to start
due to Gonzalez being a lefty…...Chase it up next and he’s a switch hitter, so he could keep Seay in of go to Dolsi after Gonzalez. The third batter is a righty.
maybe bad call?
not sure about inge calling the last two pitches on the outside corner…
especially since the ump isn't giving us that call.
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by spotstarters on Jun 22, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
wow, that'll do the trick, nice throw
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i can't believe they tried to score from second on that hit.
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the bottom three...
in the lineup have combined for 7 K’s.
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ok...
ive been here for a while, but i didn’t want to jinx anything. hello everyone! crap… he hit him…. pretend like i never was here….
Jeff
it just can never be easy with todd
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An all too familiar sight
Was at the game tonight.
Bullpen collapse.
*sigh
can you cure us of this fate
mock the litany in its face

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