Game 81: Rockies (32-49) at Tigers (40-40)
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 11:59 AM EDT
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Colorado Rockies at Detroit Tigers, Jun 29, 2008 1:05 PM EDT
Greg Reynolds (2-5, 5.68) vs. 
Kenny Rogers (5-5, 4.60)
A month or so ago, it wasn't very fun to type out the titles of these GameThreads. I even considered changing the format, so I wouldn't have to keep noting the Tigers' won-loss record every day. Today, however, I looked forward to typing out that record. I'd been wanting to do it ever since Ryan Raburn sprinted across home plate last night with the game-winning run.
I think rock n rye has the right idea over at From the CoPa. Let's hit the reset button on this thing. Finishing off the Rockies for a sweep would help with that, of course. The Tigers have worked hard to allow themselves to call a Mulligan on those first 81 games. The second half of the 2008 season is upon us, and the promise we felt in March has returned.
Since giving up eight runs and 10 hits to the Giants, Greg Reynolds has put together two quality starts, in which he allowed just four runs in 13 innings. On the road, however, his record is 0-3 with a 7.71 ERA. Reynolds doesn't strike out many batters, so the Tigers should get their bats on the ball today. And they really should be scoring more runs with the hit totals they've been posting recently.
Kenny Rogers had his streak of five quality starts snapped rather violently by the Cardinals on Tuesday. He gave up five runs to St. Louis, which is one more than he'd allowed in his previous five games combined. Was that a pothole in the road for Rogers or the beginning of a downward slope?
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Starting Lineups
COLORADO
1. Willy Taveras, CF
2. Todd Helton, 1B
3. Matt Holliday, LF
4. Garrett Atkins, 3B
5. Ryan Spilborghs, RF
6. Jeff Baker, DH
7. Clint Barmes, 2B
8. Yorvit Torrealba, C
9. Troy Tulowitzki, SS
DETROIT
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Clete Thomas, RF
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
5. Marcus Thames, LF
6. Gary Sheffield, DH
7. Edgar Renteria, SS
8. Dane Sardinha, C
9. Michael Hollimon, 2B
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the usual Sunday afternoon lineup from Leyland
you can count on him giving a few of the regulars off every Sunday. I’m not complaining though…
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Will the Great Dane......
get his first major league hit today?
by MSU4LIF on Jun 29, 2008 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Clete hitting Second
I like it
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maggs
Put on the DS according to the Free Press
by ashmark on Jun 29, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not good
Obviously, that’s a big loss.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the link
Tigers put Ordonez on DL, call up Matt Joyce.
Crap. Those oblique injuries are never minor tweaks.
I’d rather see Clevlen get the call, but I bet Clete and Thames get the majority of the outfield time.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they can put Jonesy with his wig in right field?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when one of the complaints about the Tigers was that they had no depth?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Big Tilde going on the DL puts a hamper on the party at the Copa on the 12th…
I’m gonna go cry in the corner for a bit
by Jerkwheat on Jun 29, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bummer… could be worse i guess
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's close to 15 days, I think they'll be Ok
If Cabrera really gets on a roll, and if Sheff, Thames, Grandy stay hot, I think they’ll be fine in the meantime. Plus Raburn and Thomas can hit a little bit.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If this was about a month ago...
I’d be really worried about this situation. But lately almost everybody we’ve trotted out to left field has hit well, Sheff is back and hopefully consistently hits. It’ll be a nice chance to give some of the younger guys a lot of AB’s.
by LosTigres on Jun 29, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is why Rod Allen is a good color guy
I like the discussion of whether Hollimon should have called of Miggy. I have MLB.tv so I have to watch the home announcers, so I’ve heard a lot of teams announcers, and I can say that Mario and Rod are some of the better guys around…
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
you know who is just terrible? the white sox guys… i hate when they’re my only option.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they are the worst
other good ones are the Red Sox guys and the Angels’ guys.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Dickerson is pretty good too
If something big happens you can hear it. Regardless of what team does it. He gets a little more excited for the Tigers, but he’s hardly a homer. I can’t stand listen to most of the home team announcers when the Tigers are on the road. If the Tigers get a big hit or make a big play, most times it’s said in a tone of voice that would make you think the broadcasting booth is in a library.
However, Jim Price annoys me to no end.
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the san fan guys are probably the funnoest ive heard. all they do is make fun of people in th stands.. its hilarious.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CLETUS!!!!
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the Cult of Clete grows some more
He’s a solid player.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it’s gonna be an interesting game with him behind the plate
by wepri31 on Jun 29, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here we go
I think we’re about to see Miggy get on a serious roll
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
clete’s just that amazing i guess…....i need to get that shirt…
by wepri31 on Jun 29, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice slide
the throw obviously beat him.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boney!
Glad to see you. Isn’t the Tigers’ record pretty good when you stop by?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how did he go down and get that one?
didn’t think that one was going out.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rogers
This doesn’t look like it’s going to be a good day for him.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Would be a nice time to add to that pickoff total
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or nail him at 2nd
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice throw by Sardinha!
Throwing out Taveras is a big deal.
But if Sardinha can at least bring the defense, I think he’ll be an okay back-up.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hollimon
I really like his aggressiveness on the bases. It’s bitten him a couple of times, but that sort of thing can give the lineup a boost when it’s dragging.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh boy
If Rogers can make it through the fifth inning today, I think that should be considered a small victory.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at this moment i don’t see that happening… i could be wrong though
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Kenny Rogers is Rasputin
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’ll take getting out of the 3rd with only one run scoring
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You will take no runs scored, sir, and you will like it.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man...
does edger make at least 1 error a game?
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
do they let him walk after this year?
I wouldn’t mind seeing how Hollimon could hack it as an everyday player.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was supposed to be an upgrade.. through 80 games he looks more like a liability.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a good player
but to be honest, I think I’d rather have Jurrjens back.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's not forget
Carlos Guillen wasn’t exact a gold glove candidate either
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough, tough call
This could be a Pudge Rodriguez situation. Hollimon’s history indicates he’d probably hit well enough, but would his defense at short be good enough for Leyland? That’s probably the question.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the truth is
that the Tigers have been getting subpar defense at short for years. I think Hollimon would put up 80% of the number Edgar and probably provide 90% of the defense. I hear that Cale Iorg may be the SS of the future, but he’s a few years away. I could see them letting Renteria and Pudge walk after the season in order to save themselves 20 mil
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Leyland doesn't like platoons
But would a Hollimon-Santiago pairing give them equal or better production at SS than Renteria?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Ramon will ever hit enough
If Hollimon was brutal with the glove you could use Ramon as a late inning replacement
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upcoming free agent SS
Orlando Cabrera (34)
David Eckstein (34)
Adam Everett (32)
Rafael Furcal (31)
Cristian Guzman (31)
Cesar Izturis (29)
Felipe Lopez (29)
Edgar Renteria (33) – $11MM club option for ‘09 with a $3MM buyout
Juan Uribe (30)
Omar Vizquel (42)
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really like O-Cabrera
But he would not be cheap.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Furcal
but his ongoing back problems bother me
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
but that could also lower his price
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder how guillen would take it.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’d definitely allow Leyland to move Curtis out of the leadoff spot, if that’s what they’d ultimately prefer to do with him.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd almost prefer they keep it in-house
They can’t be paying everyone 8-12 million, and Cabrera, Granderson, Bonderman are all getting more expensive. They still also have to pay Verlander. Having a few guys making low money would help them stay on budget.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
double play...
kenny’s best friend.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They've been beating him down
but they just can’t put him away
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was slick
Cabrera turning the double play from first is yet another sign of how comfortable he’s becoming over there. And great cover by Rogers at the bag.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 more hits for Marcus today
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
somebody tell me why thames wasn’t considered a full time player?
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont miss him.. even though he doing all right this year
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sardinia...
the last guy in the world i want up in the situation…
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kenny
I’ve said it before. Kenny doesn’t have a great arm, but he does EVERY SINGLE other thing a pitcher can do to be successful. He’s prepared, he fields his position exceptionally, and he’s got a great pickoff.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s as complete a baseball player as a pitcher can be.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one hit away from being yanked in the third
Kenny bounces back and has a chance to make it into the 7th
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you gotta know when to hold ‘em.. know when to fold ‘em…
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Leyland is humming that to himself right now.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carlos could use a big fly right here…
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or a walk
have a good feeling about Miggy’s next at bat
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or the old “can i help you?” – “no thanks.. just looking.”
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s looking pretty bad on TV.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is this "rain" you speak of?
Down here in Georgia, I can’t remember the last time (other than the pop-up, pour and disappear summer storms) that it has rained
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thunder and lightning here in Mobile, AL
I gave serious thought to shutting down the computer to keep it from getting fried by all the lightning
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't remember a two-week stretch like this
On one hand, my lawn looks fantastically green. (And I haven’t had to go out and cut it.)
On the other, there’s not much sitting outside or grilling.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s like seattle here in cleveland.. rains everyday. but like Ian, my lawn is happy.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Houston
is hot and humid. Rains here everyday about 4:30.
by dettigionswings'stons on Jun 29, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Great Dane!!!!!
That ball’s a keeper!
by MSU4LIF on Jun 29, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That has to be incredibly rare
a catcher getting a triple for his first ML hit?
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he’s not fast at all either.. the rocks where screwin’ around with that ball out there.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dolsi....Rodney.....Zoom Zoom
7th…..8th…..and 9th
by MSU4LIF on Jun 29, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dolsi
Looks like he weighs about 110 lbs.. And his 10/11 K/BB ratio scares me.
Also, first post! What’s goin on everybody?
by explosivo2k2 on Jun 29, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
welcome
nice name (assuming you took your name from the Tenacious D song)
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh 1..uh .2..uh...3.....(just like the top of the 7th)
Take me out to the ball game….take me out to the crowd….(everybody now)
by MSU4LIF on Jun 29, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bye me some peanuts and cracker jacks...
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tenacious D
I did.. Been using it since ‘02 after I found out about ‘em, hence the 2k2.
Nice 1 2 3 from Dolsi!
by explosivo2k2 on Jun 29, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a great album
Explosivo was always one of my favorites.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Booing..
Really? Do we need to boo Grilli? Sure he sucked at the beginning of the season but he was a nice guy..
Also, booing Jonesey yesterday was a little much as well..
by explosivo2k2 on Jun 29, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not a huge grilli fan… bbbboooooooo!
big jonesy fan though.. the guy is tough.. he’ll bounce back from last night.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dolsi has been doing a pretty good job for us… but what ever happen to Lopez?
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sent him down to Toledo to convert him to a starter
by explosivo2k2 on Jun 29, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
any idea how thats going? heard d-train was starting in lakeland today…. hoping for the best for him.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so far
11 innings pitched, 3 earned runs, 14 K’s.
His last outing was 6 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 7 K’s
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CLETUS!!!
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Cult
it’s a couple good games away from being religion. Cleteism could be catching on in Right Field
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you guys are a good minute ahead of my mlb extra innings telecast.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dolsi
he’d barely pitched above Single A coming into this season. He’s been a revelation.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dolsi is what Dombrowski hoped Cruceta or Bautista could’ve been.
It’s easy to say now, obviously, but this is one example of how Double-D’s offseason approach worked. No, they didn’t sign the big name or proven guy, but he brought in a lot of good, young arms, hoping at least one of them would work out.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SIT ON IT!
I heart Dolsi
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or freddie…. i’m holding my daughter.. typing has been hit or miss…
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to take off
Hopefully, the Tigers hold this lead up.
Considering they took it while I was away from the computer, maybe me leaving is a good thing.
Talk to you folks later! And as always, thanks for stopping by.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 29, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jonesy????
Okay….I love the guy….and here we go with the Leyland confidence building….but he threw way too many pitches last night…..why not bring in Zoom Zoom…..I don’t get it.
by MSU4LIF on Jun 29, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Zumaya
Yeah I’d like to see Zoomer in there too, get him in a pressure situation to build HIS confidence..
by explosivo2k2 on Jun 29, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is always a rollercoaster, but yesterday was his first blown save of the year. If he is your guy, and he is Leyland’s guy, then you have to send him back out there.
by tbliggins on Jun 29, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and..
more often then not, Jones follows up a turd with a quick outing.
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, it's my duty to ask:
are you ready for this:
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
looking for that to come out in time, ie before theinning starts….thanks walrus….
by ahtrap on Jun 29, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
That about sums it up nicely
by explosivo2k2 on Jun 29, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now the double
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THAT’LL DO IT! BRING ON THE TWINKIES!!
by explosivo2k2 on Jun 29, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...and into the station
TIGER WIN!
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Jun 29, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good game everyone
See ya in Twinkie Town!
by MSU4LIF on Jun 29, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Above 5ive hundo...
feels good
by dettigionswings'stons on Jun 29, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
brewers not doing their part so far, down 4-0 i the th to the twinkies
by ahtrap on Jun 29, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leyland
needs to convince these guys that the Twins play in the NL Central.
by tbliggins on Jun 29, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Cubs
bring the Sox a little closer, and Tigs can duke it out with the Twins
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
by rock n rye on Jun 29, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great
TJ, that’s the right Answer after yesterday. One Game over 0.500 . Thank you National League :D
So, the 2nd Half of Germany-Spain is on its way (doesnt look good for us, but hey, Tigs win)
bye
Greetings from Germany. Dirk
by Germantiger on Jun 29, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Little late to the party
But is there anything better than afternoon baseball…(Ok, anything better than winning afternoon baseball)
by ReichardZ on Jun 29, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let me just say
This is the type of game good teams win and bad teams lose. This was a tough, grind it out type win.
by ThaWalrus9 on Jun 29, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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