Game 83: Tigers (42-40) at Twins (45-38)
by Ian Casselberry
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Detroit Tigers @ Minnesota Twins
Nate Robertson (6-6, 5.23) vs. 
Scott Baker (4-2, 3.57)
First things first, Miguel Cabrera is out of the lineup tonight, which was probably expected. But no news seems to be good news, as far as a long-term injury. Maybe the Tigers are waiting to see how Miggy responds in warm-ups and workouts before making a final decision. Marcus Thames gets the start at first base tonight, with Clete Thomas in left and Matt Joyce in right.
Somehow in his last start, Nate Robertson escaped without allowing an earned run, despite giving up 11 hits to the Cardinals in 6 1/3 innings. It was one of the most Houdini-like performances you'll ever see. In two of Robertson's last three starts, in fact, he hasn't allowed an earned run. (In between, he gave up five, which is the Nate we're more familiar with, but give the man his due.) And he has pitched very well against these Minnesota Twins, winning three of his last five starts with a 2.67 ERA. In his last two appearances in the Metrodome, Robertson has just two earned runs in 14 innings.
With Robertson starting, our old friend Craig Monroe should be in the Twins' lineup. Especially since Nate owns Jason Kubel (0-for-11, five strikeouts), as La Velle E. Neal III points out in his Star Tribune blog. (Hat tip to Mack Avenue Tigers) Monroe has actually been terrible against lefties this season, however, batting .103/.175/.155 in 63 plate appearances.
Scott Baker is on a two-game winning streak, giving up four runs in 12 innings. And in his 11 starts this season, he's given up more than three runs only once. One problem he's been running into, however, is high pitch counts that have taken him out of games early. (And given what we've seen from the Minnesota bullpen in recent match-ups, the Twins would probably prefer to keep their starters in there through seven innings.) Baker is winless in his last five appearances against the Tigers, which includes two starts this season. The last time he faced Detroit, Baker had to leave after three innings with a groin injury.
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Starting Lineups
DETROIT
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Marcus Thames, 1B
5. Matt Joyce, RF
6. Gary Sheffield, DH
7. Clete Thomas, LF
8. Edgar Renteria, SS
9. Ivan Rodriguez, C
MINNESOTA
1. Carlos Gomez, CF
2. Alexi Casilla, 2B
3. Mike Redmond, C
4. Justin Morneau, 1B
5. Craig Monroe, DH
6. Delmon Young, LF
7. Brendan Harris, SS
8. Nick Punto, 3B
9. Denard Span, RF
by Ian Casselberry on
Jul 1, 2008 6:18 PM EDT
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what a strange looking line up, BUT I LIKE IT!! 1-9 has been producing as of late, so looking forward to seeing how they do tonight..
by PBURGTIGER on
Jul 1, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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can't say I like any lineup without Miggy and Maggs
but this one will hopefully do alright.
by ThaWalrus9 on
Jul 1, 2008 7:58 PM EDT
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on the bright side
Twins aren’t marching out a fantastic lineup either.
by MackAveKurt on
Jul 1, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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Cabrera IS in uniform
And could be available to pinch-hit, according to MLB.com.
by Ian Casselberry on
Jul 1, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
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Cabrera
Sure he hasn’t been great this season but I think he’s only missed one game up until this point. A day or two off could do him some good in a lot of ways.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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Ya, I laugh when
people talk about him as a disappointment. He is batting .280, with 11 dingers and 48 ribbies. That ain’t too shabby, especially for switching leagues, and what not.
by Zappatista on
Jul 1, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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carlos gomez...
is crazy.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:19 PM EDT
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I don't trust guys who sprint to first when walked
My semi-random observation for the evening.
by Ian Casselberry on
Jul 1, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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i'm right there with ya
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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awful start for nate
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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bal hasn't left the infield...
and they have guys on 2nd and 3rd.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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C'mon, man
Gomez on third without a base hit? Shake it off, Nate.
by Ian Casselberry on
Jul 1, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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That's what Gomez gets for being so damn weird.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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A good throw would've nailed Gomez, anyway
But still, not the brightest play by the young man.
by Ian Casselberry on
Jul 1, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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Can I get one more look at that in slow mo?
by ReichardZ on
Jul 1, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
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Where’s X-Mo when you need him? (Or her.)
by Ian Casselberry on
Jul 1, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
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the twins are trying to act like we did yesterday
by wepri31 on
Jul 1, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
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Whoa.
I just went to get something to drink. What the hell happened?
by Grant E. on
Jul 1, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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did you see how much gomez messed up the chalk? what a jerk. :D
by wepri31 on
Jul 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
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Um...
Gomez is having himself quite a start to this game. Jumping for a ball he came in too far on in center? Weirdo.
by Ian Casselberry on
Jul 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
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Top of the 2nd
did he just completely breeze thru are 4,5,6 hitters?
by PBURGTIGER on
Jul 1, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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Quick Question...
A friend of mine told me about a rumor he heard about Pudge and Craig Monroe. It doesn’t bare repeating but has anyone else heard anything?
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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let me clear it up:
they’re not twins separated at birth.
by MackAveKurt on
Jul 1, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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right you are.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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you know we are going to get totally bombed one of these nights..Nate cannot allow another 11 hits and think he is going to pitch out of all these jams..I smell something
by PBURGTIGER on
Jul 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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I was just thinking the same thing.
Just turned the double play. I still agree.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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Miner
Is going to be in for some real “middle” relief, like 5 innings worth, at this rate.
by Zappatista on
Jul 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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It's like a Molly Hatchet song
Cause Nate’s been “Flirtin’ with Disaster’
by ReichardZ on
Jul 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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NO-HITTER
I’ll jinx the hell out of this guy if I have to.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
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hahahaha
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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Feel free to continue jinxing!
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by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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I'm all over it.
Need to save them though. Can’t go hog-wild.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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how long will it take nate to get 1st and 2nd?
by PBURGTIGER on
Jul 1, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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Robertson is the Todd Jones of the rotation
There HAS to be a baserunner or 3 every inning, or it just doesn’t feel right…
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by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
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I thought that...
in his last game when he gave up all of those hits and no runs. Very Jonesian.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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holy cow
that was part luck and part skill by polanco. very nice.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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Placido Polanco should not be underrated
by Ian Casselberry on
Jul 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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it’s strange to me that he is still seen as underrated even after being in the all star game last year
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Jul 1, 2008 8:54 PM EDT
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If he's the consensus winner of the "most underrated" poll...
Doesn’t that mean he’s NOT underrated by his peers? My head hurts thinking about such conundrums.
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by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
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That was one bad ass play by the Placidome!
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by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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Marucs has gone...
five ABs without a HR, I’d say he’s due.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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What's his average?
Like every 7 at-bats?
by Ian Casselberry on
Jul 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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freebie.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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no homer, but still happy with it
let’s go joyce
by LosTigres on
Jul 1, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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Thames HR Rate...
1 every 9.86 AB
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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as much I'm sorry to see the inning end
the in-box guest on the Minnesota network was excruciating.
by ThaWalrus9 on
Jul 1, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
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Oh, good lord...
Did you see that “Do you believe in now?” commercial for Detroit Lions season tickets?
I believe in leaving me alone until I have to think about football – NOW.
by Ian Casselberry on
Jul 1, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
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Is that what they call what the Lions do? Football?
by Zappatista on
Jul 1, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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is there some rule
the Twins have to get two runners on with no outs every inning or does it just feel like it?
by MackAveKurt on
Jul 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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easy out here.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 9:13 PM EDT
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that's on me.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT
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HOLY COW
ESPN just let us know that the Tigers scored a run.
by pfuhrmeister on
Jul 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT
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Figures, Craig Monroe would be the one to go deep.
I HATE the Hefty/Baggie/Homerdome.
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by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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i second that.. worst stadium in baseball.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on
Jul 1, 2008 9:18 PM EDT
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They don't play "baseball" in Minny
Thanks to their Mickey Mouse stadium, it’s an arcade version of the game.
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by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 9:24 PM EDT
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just gonna third that
the place is awful.
by MackAveKurt on
Jul 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT
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No matter how you slice it...
Nate has not had a very good season so far.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT
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not going so well
but man, that Polanco is underrated
by ThaWalrus9 on
Jul 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT
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This is getting out of control.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT
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You can change that to...
Nate “6 run” Robertson.
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by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
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Thanks Nate! You gave it your best shot..that’ll be all.
by explosivo2k2 on
Jul 1, 2008 9:33 PM EDT
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GET HIM OUT OF THERE
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To El Duderino
I disagree about Nate not having a good season. He struggled out of the gate, as did all of our starters, sans AG, but he gave us two great starts that started this little winning streak and his last outing wasn’t horrible. A little disappointed, sure. But he has always been up and down.
by Zappatista on
Jul 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
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so I take it
you’re not into the whole brevity thing?
by ThaWalrus9 on
Jul 1, 2008 9:36 PM EDT
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Nate is officially not fooling anyone
Time to get him
by Ian Casselberry on
Jul 1, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
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we just need to wait out the twins bullpen. the roar will be loud.
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Jul 1, 2008 9:37 PM EDT
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Nate
Has made 17 starts (including tonight) and has given up at least four runs 12 times.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 9:38 PM EDT
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CLETE IS SWEET
Shoulda hooked that last pitch to the right of the foul pole, Craiggers.
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Jul 1, 2008 9:43 PM EDT
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Holy schnikes! Clete came out of nowhere!
That’s a web gem.
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by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 9:44 PM EDT
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although
he may have pulled his oblique…
by Zappatista on
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"Strained oblique" is this year's "high ankle sprain."
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by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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I’m putting on the rally cap while I go take out the trash.
by explosivo2k2 on
Jul 1, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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Good work from Zach Miner
as I continue to be the biggest Miner fan on this board. Coming in with runners on first and second with no one out and not allowing a run is big (huge assist from Clete, of course).
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Guillen must have heard you!
So…We need some more hits.
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by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 9:51 PM EDT
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yep. we need some more hits.
and some runs.
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Jul 1, 2008 9:52 PM EDT
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MARCUS!!
he was due.
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Jul 1, 2008 9:53 PM EDT
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Right before Marcus hit the HR, I grabbed the bag of Big League Chew, the same wad I chewed night before last, and Country Strong hit the homer. Chewing as fast as I can!!!!!!!!
by densogirl on
Jul 1, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
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Hm. Perhaps Joyce didn’t hear.
We need some hits, Sheff.
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joyce may have missed the memo, but at least he didn’t K this time
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Jul 1, 2008 9:56 PM EDT
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Well done, Sheff. Now, we need some runs.
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Jul 1, 2008 9:56 PM EDT
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How did he pull that pitch?
It was sliding outside, and Marcus still yanked it to left field.
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Thames HR Rate
1 every 9.43 AB
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Interesting to see how that compares to all-time, single-season records:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/ABpHR_season.shtml
Positively Sosa-ian.
Links from there to career and active leaders as well.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
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Interesting list...
Damn, Kevin Mitchell is on that list. I’d forgotten he had one monster MVP season.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:06 PM EDT
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If that number held up...
Look at the two seasons that are right below where Marcus would be (14th all-time). Mantle had 54 HR in ‘61 and Greenberg had 58 HR in ‘38. Also, I knew this before but it is astounding to me every time I think of it; Greenberg had 183 RBI one year. Say what you will about that being a situational statistic but that is incredible. He is NEVER mentioned among the greatest hitters of all time, but he put up just rediculous numbers.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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how hard is it to throw strikes?
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Jul 1, 2008 10:07 PM EDT
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Zach Miner
makes me want to puke in rage.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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zach will get the job done. he will. he will. he will. right?
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Jul 1, 2008 10:08 PM EDT
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Houdini-like
Miner seems to have picked up something from Robertson.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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somebody tell the tigers
that baseball is not a soap opera. they need to stop toying with my emotions….i’d rather not have a stress-induced stroke this young
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Jul 1, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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The 1-2-3 double play!
You rarely ever see it, yet the Tigers manage to turn it twice within a few games.
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by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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These boys
just don’t give up like they did a few weeks ago.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
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no they don't
a patented Grandy gap shot would be nice here.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
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Me, on the other hand
I have an early flight tomorrow, so I’ll be giving up. Hell, they came back after I left last night, maybe it’ll work twice in a row!
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Jul 1, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
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Have a good night, Pete
Hopefully, there’s some good news for you in the morning.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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luck
Hey, we’ve got four double plays, maybe some hitting luck is coming up too.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 10:28 PM EDT
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the twins announcers say FIVE dp’s. So we’ll score five more runs?
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It's really been a magic act that the Tigers have given up only 6 runs
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now doubt.. a base hit here or there and it would be 10-3, easy.
Jeff
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Jul 1, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
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The Twins have had 18 base runners
normally you get more than 6 runs from that
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all these jams
have got me hungry for toast
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Jul 1, 2008 10:32 PM EDT
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get em now!
or at least get close and touch up nathan.
Jeff
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Jul 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
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AHHHH!
The MLB Extra Innings feed cut out!
Phew! It’s back.
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Good news
Casey Blake just homered for the Indians in the top of the 10th, so the White Sox may be on their way to a loss.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:35 PM EDT
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great news...
lets see if it lasts.. indians have more holes then swiss cheese.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on
Jul 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT
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Miggy standing at the ready.
It would appear that there is a chance.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT
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i just put my shef hat on and took a sip of my coors light… here’s to hoping. cheers!
Jeff
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Jul 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT
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amazing.. i don’t care if they lose.. this team fights!
Jeff
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not to jinx....
but, if the Tigers win this game, I will be beyond words. They shouldn’t even be in this game.
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 10:41 PM EDT
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The dreaded words...
“Team of Destiny” might have to be utilized.
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indeed...
this could say a lot about Cabrera as well.
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This becomes the obvious PH situation for Miggy with the lefty coming in.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:42 PM EDT
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Ah, well
Took their shot, it didn’t work.
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i have a lot of respect for this team lately. they never give up. i love it.
Jeff
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Keeping the Twins off the board here would be nice, though.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:45 PM EDT
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Let's go Joe Borowski
lock down that save in Chicago!
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predicition...
if the Tigers can tie the game off of Joe Nathan I guarantee a playoff performance. It would be a matter of destiny.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:47 PM EDT
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Punto is MEAT
Got a little greedy there, Nicky.
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Jul 1, 2008 10:50 PM EDT
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Wow.
Way to stay with it, Carlos. Nice way to have a guy land on top of you, Pudge.
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guess that's why they call him
Blowrowksi
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HR to Alexei Ramirez
The Blowrowski is finding new and creative ways to suck.
by Grant E. on
Jul 1, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
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I'm happy I stayed up to watch this whole game
just to see all the wacky ways the Twins have made outs tonight.
by ThaWalrus9 on
Jul 1, 2008 10:51 PM EDT
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The weird crap that happens in the Baggiedome
never ceases to amaze me. Never.
waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com
by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 10:52 PM EDT
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Edgar Renteria is not my friend.
I wish we never woulda traded for him :(
by explosivo2k2 on
Jul 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT
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I feel like leyland is in the back of the dugout banging on the top of his upside-down magic hat.
by tplants on
Jul 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT
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oh well.
Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.
by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT
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is it too much to ask that they win every game?
:’(
by wepri31 on
Jul 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT
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White Sox win.
Borowski, not satisfied with merely blowing a lead, blows the game.
by Grant E. on
Jul 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT
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the indians are horrible. absolutely horrible.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on
Jul 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT
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garage sale tomorrow, jacob’s field… all buyers welcome.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on
Jul 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT
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It was a valiant effort. That’s OK, come back tomorrow afternoon and take the series.
by explosivo2k2 on
Jul 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT
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Hey if we have 9 games left against the White Sox, and we’re 6 games back, how many to we have to win to take the lead?
by explosivo2k2 on
Jul 1, 2008 10:58 PM EDT
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by spotstarters on
Jul 1, 2008 10:58 PM EDT
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odds are they’ll lose at least one time we win in the next 3 months.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on
Jul 1, 2008 11:05 PM EDT
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Bah. Just one of those games.
Still, the Tigers made the Twinkies nervous. Wouldn’t have happened a couple of months ago.
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by BigAl on
Jul 1, 2008 10:58 PM EDT
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The formula is pretty clear
Just push the Twins starter to leave in the 5th or 6th and attack the bullpen before Nathan.
Unfortunately, Nate gave up too many runs for that to work tonight.
by Ian Casselberry on
Jul 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
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he was terrible tonight. he’s very luck to only give up 6… i guess every pitcher has one though, what happens tomorrow is what matters. do they take the series? that’s the goal.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on
Jul 1, 2008 11:03 PM EDT
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the only problem is we’re really leaning on bonine tomorrow.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on
Jul 1, 2008 11:06 PM EDT
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If we can take 2 of 3 in the twinkie-dome...
I’ll be pretty darn happy.
Get it done.
by LosTigres on
Jul 1, 2008 11:06 PM EDT
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