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Game 92: Twins (51-41) at Tigers (46-45)

Minnesota Twins at Detroit Tigers, Jul 11, 2008 7:05 PM EDT


Glen Perkins (5-2, 4.27) vs. Armando Galarraga (7-2, 3.27)

Apologies for the late posting of the GameThread.  I knew I should've gotten this typed up before stepping out for the afternoon. But maybe I also knew that Big Al so beautifully summed up what's been on my mind for most of the past 24 hours, and I just couldn't add anything to that.

Nothing is worse than an itch you can't scratch.  In Tiger Town, that itch is called the Minnesota Twins. 

Glen Perkins hasn't allowed more than three runs in his last six starts.  The one game where he gave up fewer than three was against the Tigers a couple of weeks ago at the Metrodome when Detroit only scored two runs (and struck out seven times) in 6 1/3 innings.  The two times Perkins has faced the Tigers this season, he's given up a combined five runs in 13 1/3 innings.

The Tigers didn't win Armando Galarraga's last start, but he had nothing to do with that.  Against Seattle last Saturday, Galarraga only allowed Jeff Clement's solo home run in six innings.  It was Galarraga's third straight no-decision, but he hasn't taken a loss in his last eight starts.  However, his two losses on the season both came to Minnesota. 

Lineup-wise, Edgar Renteria gets another night to rest his sore hamstring.  So Ramon Santiago - who's batting .349/.481/.581 in 56 plate appearances - once again gets the nod at shortstop.

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Starting Lineups

MINNESOTA

1. Carlos Gomez, CF
2. Alexi Casilla, 2B
3. Joe Mauer, C
4. Justin Morneau, 1B
5. Jason Kubel, DH
6. Delmon Young, LF
7. Brian Buscher, 3B
8. Nick Punto, SS
9. Denard Span, RF

DETROIT

1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
5. Marcus Thames, LF
6. Gary Sheffield, DH
7. Matt Joyce, RF
8. Pudge Rodriguez, C
9. Ramon Santiago, SS

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Santiago...

I’m very happy to see Santiago in there over Renteria. At some point you just need to start the guys who are playing better, regardless of what they are paid. This will go down as one of the worst one year rentals in recent memory.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

after a week of the super early shift, I’m finally back for a game thread!

by MackAveKurt on Jul 11, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what's the weather like up north?

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

perfect UP weather

60s, blue sky.

wait, what am I doing indoors? ;)

by MackAveKurt on Jul 11, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

too hot down here...

I just went to the store and ended up sweating.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't take the heat too well anymore

too many years in the yoop I guess. 85 is too hot. 65 is just right.

by MackAveKurt on Jul 11, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

since we're the only one's here...

do you get to many games each season? that has to be a bit of a drive.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

typically, oh, 0

I haven’t been south of the bridge in a few years either.

by MackAveKurt on Jul 11, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the Twins!

Just getting it out of the way.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jul 11, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fyi the reaction to favre from at least one packers fan

He’s “ready to take all his Brett Favre stuff and throw it in the garbage. ** that *.”

Favre’s not destroying his legacy with the cheeseheads but he sure knocked a swift hole in it.

by MackAveKurt on Jul 11, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I bet they'll feel the same way most Lions fans felt about Barry Sanders' retirement

They’ll be mighty pissed for a while, but they’ll get over it. Time heals all…well, most, wounds.

I still can’t figure out what Favre’s thinking, though.

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by BigAl on Jul 11, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah...

he needs to just stay retired. this is a bit crazy.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's a bit different

if Favre puts on a Vikings or Bears helmet, that would probably be the end of it! Barry just ran off to England. He didn’t play for the …. who are the Lions rivals anyway? the fans?

by MackAveKurt on Jul 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You got it, a long, bitter rivalry with the fans.

It’s hard to have a true rival when you never beat anyone.

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by BigAl on Jul 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey come on...

they used to beat tampa bay all of the time.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

back in...

trent dilfer’s hey day.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leyland...

should go right ahead and walk Morneau every single time tonight. I’d be cool with that.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that you, Sparky?

Hey, if it worked for Sparky Anderson, it can work for the Marlboro Man.

I agree, just pitch around him, save us all the aggravation.

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by BigAl on Jul 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right...

I guess they don’t need to intentionally walk him, but pitching around him would be the ticket.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gonna disagree with Rod

I’d rather Thames not be in the home run derby! he can save his homers for the games.

by MackAveKurt on Jul 11, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's probably already been done

And if it hasn’t, it should be.

I’d love to see how being in the Home Run Derby affects the participants afterwards. Because the popular excuse for not being in it is “It messes up my swing.”

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I keep thinking about Bobby Abreu

It was as if he used up every drop his HR mojo in the Comerica derby. He was a sure 20+ HR guy before, and hasn’t reached it since.

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by BigAl on Jul 11, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on, Marcus

Time to go deep!

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by BigAl on Jul 11, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Favre...

Theoretically: Who would be against Favre playing for the Lions next season. I’d be cool with that.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thing is, the Lions already have

an erratic, old, interception prone QB under contract.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jul 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd enjoy that

it would really give me a chacne to give the packers fans crap, LOL

by MackAveKurt on Jul 11, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone else hear the rumor... ?

I heard somewhere that Favre wants to play for the Carolina Panthers because it’s closer to home.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that would make sense.

I haven’t heard that though.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't

follow the NFL all that much so I don’t know how the cash would work or anything, but I have to imagine most people would enjoy watching Favre over Kitna.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How do you walk Nick Punto? I don't get that.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 out walks will kill you!

We are making Punto look like an ALL *

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hear that.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read about him before the season...

and he was a top pick who just could not get out of the minors because of Hunter and a lack of production. I think they were close to giving up on him.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What was that face?

It looked like he just drank for the past 6 hours and ended it with a couple shots of whiskey….

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt Joyce...

is a beast.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s made his case, fo’sure.

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joyce

is the Jason Maxiell of the Tigers. Whatever that means.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jason Maxiell eats babies

So… Joyce might have to change his diet.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From DetroitBadBoys.com

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lovely.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guarantee...

a Santiago RBI here.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just kidding.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also hate Apple trying to sneak in a Safari download with an iTunes update. I’m just sayin’.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know...

what’s the deal with that?

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

incidentally...

I’m trying to rate every song on my iTunes during tonights game. Quite a Friday night.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm currently...

on Temple of the Dog. Remember those guys?

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah! I really liked their other song.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey come on...

they had TWO songs. Not just one.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

say hello 2 heaven

hunger strike

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hunger strike featured...

a young eddie vedder. not the pinnacle of musical achievement but it’s decent for nostalgic reasons.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

current PJ drummer, former Soundgarden drummer.

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I DO remember that

Actually, I liked that better than ‘Hunger Strike.’

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet this...

is the most a one-off grunge band was ever mentioned in a baseball themed internet chat.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

now there's a band...

with only one song.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i bought...

that cd for $2 once and regretted it.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

c'mon now

Cumbersome and Water’s Edge, that’s two

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 11, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i remember cumbersome

but not waters edge. i bet i’d know it if i heard it.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

remember the toadies...

they were sweet.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus..

i feel like 7 mary 3 was a big influence the nickelbacks of the world and that is not a good thing.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

here’s Water’s Edge

if they spawned Nickelback, that’s pretty much unforgiveable.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 11, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow...

i forgot they ever existed.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn't ring a bell

til about the first 3 notes of the song.

by MackAveKurt on Jul 11, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and we're on the board...

nice work Guillen.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

by the way

I’m late to the board, but I too hate the Twins. They are on the verge of passing the White Sox for my most hated team.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 11, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least...

Joyce didn’t let that ball get past him. Nice snag to cut it down in the gap.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

does any one...

hit more pop ups that Gary Sheffield?

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Five pitches?

Do the Tigers want to catch a late showing of ‘Hellboy II’ or something?

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope it's not...

“Get Smart” because that movie was not very good.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really? Steve Carell is usually gold.. do you like The Office?

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOVE the office...

he was decent in the movie, but it was just not very good. i only paid $4 and it was still a waste of money.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it could’ve been worse, but it was the sort of comedy that you forget the instant it’s over. I’d peg it at about $2.

by joffle on Jul 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Santiago is

a 90% success rate of hitting a ground ball directly to a middle infielder…

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at this rate...

Perkins could pitch 10 innings if he had to.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

at this rate...

Armando could pitch about half that number.

by Grant E. on Jul 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

kind of an unlikely pitchers duel

at least I would’ve said so a few months ago. Perkins and Galarraga have both obviously pitched well this year.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

These Dark Knight commercials

I can’t stand them anymore! Give me the movie!

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ya know what I can't stand...

this damn team..I hate Minnyhaha

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can almost take getting beat by guys like Morneau

But Brian Buscher? I want to put my head through a wall.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many homers would Miggy have at Tiger Stadium?

The way he hits the ball to right field, just rocketing balls into that gap.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tim Kurkjian...

Was talking about the short porch at the Corner on ESPN this afternoon. He told a story about how Harwell took the urinal in the visitor’s locker room when the stadium because all the greats had used it. Then he said “That’s what makes this game so great” about fifty times in a row and grinned like an idiot for a while.

by Grant E. on Jul 11, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Judging from what’s on right now, it’s the next logical step. “Coming this October to VH1!”

by Grant E. on Jul 11, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kurkjian could host it, too

“You know, Bob, the urinal cakes are the same ones they used in the old Yankee Stadium. Think about all the Hall of Fame scents they freshened. You just never know what you’re gonna get in baseball.”

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please no more Glen Perkins

he’s owned the Tigers this year.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 11, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That strike call was ridiculous

That ball was almost at Polanco’s collarbone.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Polly was pissed too….rightfully so

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

need runs now..

I don’t like our chances against Joe Nathan.

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guillen

I prefer him batting left, and so do his numbers..

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Carlos Gomez

Having a guy like that in centerfield makes such a difference for your defense. That would’ve cleared the bases. (Or been a home run in other parks.) Yet he tracks it down after initially turning the wrong way. Pretty incredible.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

serves them right, darn Twins and their bunting ways…

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 11, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gonna have to happen in the 8th

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by spotstarters on Jul 11, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

probably

although Nathan wasn’t exactly untouchable yesterday.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 11, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's official

Gardenhire is trying to make Guerrier’s arm fall off…

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 11, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

actually nevermind

I thought he’d pitched more recently than he has.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some good news

Rangers 6
White Sox 1

bottom of the 5th

by MSU4LIF on Jul 11, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did a Tigers pitcher other than KR

just properly play bunt? speechless….

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK

Let’s just start walking Morneau.

by Grant E. on Jul 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Morneau's hit

That ball sunk fast! That looked like a sure double, but it almost dropped straight down after reaching the top of its arc.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Inge

Doesn’t it seem odd that he was brought back from his rehab stint two days ago and he hasn’t played. A manager would usually put you in at least to start your first or second day back…..guess he’s our new Sunday catcher.

Any teams out there need a back-up catcher/back-up 3B/back-up OF.

There’s no room for him anymore with all the Mud Hens playin’

by MSU4LIF on Jul 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kubel

What the heck was he lookin for?

by MSU4LIF on Jul 11, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The gas can

Rodney carried out there with him

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Jonesy didn’t leave anything in the tank for Rodney!

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently...

Fastball right down the middle wasn’t on the menu.

by Grant E. on Jul 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was some wicked $#!+ he threw to Dude You’re Getting a Delmon.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rozema

Anybody else here make it to the Whitecaps game Wednesday night. It was Dave Rozema bobblehead/karate kick bobbleleg night. Got four of them with the fam….one is on eBay for $46 so far. It’s pretty cool if you’re in to that.

But I digress…...

You go with your bad self Rodney.

IT’S GUM TIME!!!

by MSU4LIF on Jul 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Was that Pudge,

because it looked exactly like RS off the bat.

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's all folks....

until tomorrow…...

Go Rangers….

by MSU4LIF on Jul 11, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate the Twins

and I fin hate the Eagles man

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 11, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Minnyhaha

can get out my cab.

by Zappatista on Jul 11, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

APATHETIC

that would sum it up at this point….

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