The Joy of Joyce

Once again, I'm a bit late with the Game Recap, so there's really not going to be one. The Mike McClary birthday bash just kept me out too late. It was a great time had by all, and we managed to record an All-Star break podcast at some point, so I'll link to that when Mike posts it.
But really, all I wanted to was post a photo of Matt Joyce, who crushed a ball over the 420' sign in dead center, into the shrubs, for his ninth home run of the year. A frequent topic in the party suite yesterday (constantly brought up by me to whomever I spoke to) was the dilemma the Tigers will face with their outfield and designated hitter after the All-Star break.
What are they going to do? Joyce can't possibly be sent back down to Toledo once Magglio Ordonez returns from the disabled list, can he? He's swinging too hot of a bat right now, and - Thursday's error notwithstanding - providing solid defense in right field. Do we attribute this surge to Joyce's kitty rescue last week, as Samela (yes, I know it's Samara) has, with typically brilliant photo illustration)? Since he found that kitten, Joyce is hitting .429 (9-for-21) with four home runs and six RBIs. His average has gone from .247/.314/.558 to .266/.329/.649.
And how about Joyce's fellow corner outfielder, Clete Thomas? Our cult leader (The Cult of Clete!) smacked his first home run of the season, giving Detroit its first lead of the game in the second inning. His bat isn't as sizzling hot as Joyce's, but Clete provides another left-handed stick, plays good defense in left, and isn't afraid to draw a walk.
What we have here is a bit of a logjam. Five players, including Marcus Thames and Gary Sheffield, for three lineup spots. Jeff Larish should probably be included in that mix, as well, but I'm going to presume he goes first when Maggs returns. The dilemma will come when that fifth spot in the starting rotation rolls up a week from today. Jim Leyland has already said that Sheff will be the DH in Detroit's first game after the All-Star break, yet also admitted that he was "concerned" about him. Leyland is loyal to a fault with Sheffield, but what kind of trigger finger is he going to show if Sheff struggles after his three-day vacation in the Bahamas?
Is a lineup with Joyce in left field, Maggs in right, and Thames at DH the best team the Tigers can put on the field right now? Maybe Clete draws the short straw here, as he doesn't supply quite as potent a bat, has less position versatility than Ryan Raburn, and might benefit from getting regular at-bats in Toledo. Or is this the type of situation that calls for a trade? Perhaps an even tougher decision is called for, as well.
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Joyce, Clete, Thames
Do you notice a name missing? Oh ya, Sheffield. Get rid of him! He had chances in the first three games to put us ahead or at least tie it up with RISP. What did we get? (Let us jump back to a horrible 80’s movie, UHF) “Show her what is in the box! NOTHING, absolutely nothing!” Somebody should want to take Shef on, we may have to eat some of his salary, but you can’t tell me that TB wouldn’t want another bat, or LAA? Somebody, PLEASE? These kids are the future, and they have proven that they belong up here. WIth Joyce, I think it has just been a matter of getting more AB’s against big leaguers. Oh ya….I could really do without Ramon “I will hit it on the ground to the SS or 2B evertime” Santiago. I know his glove is stout, but we need runs!
by Zappatista on Jul 14, 2008 8:40 AM EDT 0 recs
hey now
Watch it, Zappa….You mess with weird Al, you have to mess with me….or worse, No more Mister passive resistance…
(no idea how posting a link to a vid works on the new version of sbnation…not trying to embed here)
by ahtrap on
Jul 14, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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Awesome
I have to admit I haven’t seen that movie in years, but I use Coony’s lines, and “thinking of something orange”!
by Zappatista on
Jul 14, 2008 5:38 PM EDT
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Joyce
The fair thing to do is release Sheff, put Maggs at DH and give RF to Joyce. What will probably happen is that Larish gets sent down, Thames and Joyce platoon at LF and Thames starts seeing a lot more time at DH as Sheff continues to decline. I’d be surprised if he’s with the team by the end of the season and really surprised if he survives the off-season. No one will trade for him, even if we ate most of his salary. I think everyone is realizing that having him for one season and dealing with his grief over no getting an extension would have been preferable to this. By the way, my fiancee and I have begun referring to Joyce as “The Big Kitten.” Can we make that stick?
by MacRae on Jul 14, 2008 11:11 AM EDT 0 recs
Joyce and Thomas have earned the right to stay with the big club...
so as much as I hate to say it…Sheff should be the odd man out. The operative word being “should,” because he won’t be released thanks to his contract. I’d be stunned if the Tigers did so. He looked good right after coming off the DL, but over the past couple of weeks, Sheff is swinging the bat much like he did before his DL stint. That being painfully and badly.
Obviously Larish is 1st man headed back to Toledo. I think Raburn stays due to his versatility, so does Santiago. It comes down to a flip coin between Joyce and Thomas. Personally, I’d keep Joyce due to his superior power, but you could also make a good case for Thomas, as he’s a better outfielder who can also play center.
Either way, I’d prefer both stay with the big club, but I don’t believe it’s going to happen.
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by BigAl on Jul 14, 2008 11:15 AM EDT 0 recs
20 mil speaks very loudly
According to the even tougher decision article Ian linked to, that’s what the Tigers would owe Sheffield if they dropped him now. Would Illitch take that hit?
Moreover, after the way Larry Brown cleaned up on his way out the door, why would any Detroit owner leave themselves open to that sort of payoff, even if it is a guy who used to be an all star in the not too distant past?
by ahtrap on
Jul 14, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
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eating chef's salary
you think Illitch feels like he is getting what $20 million is worth? I think he already feels like he is losing $20 million whats the difference if he is in the line up or not? he sucks
by PBURGTIGER on Jul 14, 2008 8:57 PM EDT 0 recs
derby
i wanted justin morneau to win this….and any other day of the year he’s hitting well enough to. but damn that hamilton is good.
by wepri31 on Jul 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT 0 recs
and i guess today is one of those days. congrats to both of them!
by wepri31 on
Jul 14, 2008 10:55 PM EDT
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Should I have posted a Home Run Derby thread?
I wasn’t sure if people would care. But then I saw Josh Hamilton’s first-round total after getting home and thought maybe I’d made a mistake.
I planned on having an All-Star Game Open Thread, though.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 14, 2008 11:36 PM EDT 0 recs
Ya, you know.....
BECAUSE IT MATTERS! (this time….)
by Zappatista on
Jul 15, 2008 7:30 AM EDT
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