Game 95: Tigers (47-47) at Orioles (45-48)
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 5:30 PM EDT
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PrintDetroit Tigers at Baltimore Orioles, Jul 17, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
Kenny Rogers (6-6, 4.55) vs. 
Garrett Olson (6-4, 5.65)
Jim Leyland may not like getting just three days off, when roughly 75% of the other major league teams gets four, but Detroit's All-Star break comes to an end tonight in Baltimore. The Orioles and Tigers will be the only two American League teams playing tonight.
Both teams enter crucial stretches of their season. Tonight begins an 11-game homestand for the O's, and a successful one could put them back in the AL East race. And we know what's at stake for the Tigers over the next 10 games. A nice run puts them squarely in competition for the AL Central. A bad one could render August and September disappointing, with trade rumors as the juice that keeps things interesting.
July hasn't been very good for Garrett Olson, as he's gotten shelled in his two starts this month. In his last nine innings, he's given up 13 runs (12 earned) and 15 hits. However, Olson hasn't lost in Camden Yards this year, going 3-0 with a 4.28 ERA in six starts. This will be his first time facing the Tigers.
Kenny Rogers hasn't won in his two July starts, either, though he's pitched better than Olson. Against Minnesota in his last outing, Rogers had to settle for a no-decision after seven innings. From there, the Twins made the comeback that rocked the Tigers' world, according to Ron Gardenhire. In 14 career starts at Camden Yards, Rogers has a 4-3 record and 4.22 ERA.
Carlos Guillen won't be in the lineup tonight, as he's back in Detroit to take care of his wife, who just had surgery. Reportedly, everyone is doing fine.
Camden Chat has your SB Nation opposing view for this four-game series.
Short Hops:
- Jason Beck is reporting that Zach Miner will be the starting pitcher for the Tigers on Monday.
- The Daily Fungo discovered some potentially good news for the Tiger Stadium preservation effort at Senator Carl Levin's website.
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Sheffield
Here is a hypothetical way to handle Sheff: make him the leadoff hitter. I realize that his 323 obp would not cut it out of the leadoff spot, but that may increase substantially if his primary objective was to get on base. He has proven that he has the ability to draw walks w/ his 395 career obp and 378 obp last year. There is nothing wrong w/ his wheels as he is 25/30 in sb since coming to Detroit. Batting leadoff would reduce his need to hit for power leaving him to concentrate solely on getting on base.
The toughest thing about attempting this would be how long of a leash to give him there. By hitting him leadoff, you are committing to him playing virtually everyday which is taking ABs away from the Toledo crew who have earned them. Getting an OPS+ of 78 out of the leadoff spot would be crippling, so there would have to be a set time (10 games? 15 games?) to see if he has turned it around. By then, their slim playoff hopes may be completely gone.
So, what do you think? Can a player who has been a power hitter for 20 years flip a switch and swing for the gaps rather than the fences?
Win Probabilities
Vegas gives the Orioles a slight edge in tonight’s game. My Simulator, which has been predicting games over the past two seasons gives the Tigers a 53.39% chance of winning, while AccuScore gives the Tigers a 57% chance of winning. Run totals range from Vegas:10, Simulator:10.49, AccuScore:10.9
vr, Xeifrank
I just knew it!!
I knew after bashing Chef for about ten minutes in the pregame he was going to do something…I was telling my Dad that he should be on the bench for Joyce..I love it when someone from my own team tells me to eat it..
Starting Lineups
Little bit late with these…
DETROIT
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Marcus Thames, LF
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Gary Sheffield, DH
7. Pudge Rodriguez, C
8. Edgar Renteria, SS
9. Brandon Inge, 3B
BALTIMORE
1. Brian Roberts, 2B
2. Adam Jones, CF
3. Nick Markakis, RF
4. Aubrey Huff, DH
5. Kevin Millar, 1B
6. Melvin Mora, 3B
7. Ramon Hernandez, C
8. Jay Payton, LF
9. Brandon Fahey, SS
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions
Little bit
Maybe we’re still on our All-Star breaks.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon now
Are the Tigers going to hang onto a lead here?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions
Kenny's
looking a little rough these last 2 innings. Pitch count at 35, not to bad.
thanks to the O's baserunning choices
he could be in a lot worse shape
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thanks,
two weeks with out the internet and TV. I don’t know how i did it when I was little
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Oakland
getting rid of there team again, Blanton to the Phillies today.
Hmmmm
Pudge to Florida?? Might happen if they are out of it.
Just watching on the tracker...no TV here...
Is Kenny really getting hammered or are they getting lucky?
Feels like a quiet three runs, six hits to me. But he’s throwing a lot of pitches.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, crap
That one was hammered by Melvin Mora.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
omg
did he get out of a inning without allowing a run or a a major jam?
not so fast
we’re one pillow mishap away from Dane Sardinha, full-time starter
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I like my Sardinha's in mustard..
I agree, Pudge is more than just the catcher, BUT DD is no bone head. If he can improve the team, he will. Will Inge catching daily be a drop off of significance? I don’t really know, but what he could get for him WOULD make the team better…he do it.
wow,
I’ve seen amputee little league teams run the bases better than the Orioles
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Captain Hook!
Wow, that’s a quick hook on Dolsi! Is this a new approach for Leyland?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions
bobby
The mediterainian should Get er done here
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Ground ball from Rodney
That’s has to be worth a mid-level prospect from someone right?
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The last time an Oriole angered Sheff, it didn't go too well for the O's
right, Daniel Cabrera?
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You can tell he just loves playing third base.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If not for Jay Payton
There would be even more on the scoreboard.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy Crap
Has anyone seen what the Mud Hens are doing tonight? I was trying to get tickets to see them this weekend, but with Ortiz making a rehab start, all four games are SRO.
15-1 Pawsox in the 7th
At least Cleven hit an HR, and Clete just got hisself a single.
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 17, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Who the heck is Derek Wathan?
He just hit the salami for the Hens. 15-5
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 17, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
no offense to rook's comment
but I think it’s not to good of a situation, where you have a two run lead and you have to get your closer another one, do yall agree?
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Is there such a thing
As a comfortable lead with Jones?
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 17, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
true
but if he even makes this close I’ll castrate myself
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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Jul 17, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't do that
Just give yourself a pinch or something.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Slit your wrists if you must
but don’t do THAT.
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 17, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I was kidding but
Jonesy makes me want to punch drywall
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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Jul 17, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
unfortunatly i have
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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Jul 17, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
oriole park is beautiful, and Ian that my friend is halarious
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im about to make this gamethread a cussing party
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boney
don’t even bring up 2006
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markakis
took the biggest cut ive ever seen
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jonesy? or borowski
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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Jul 17, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
it better be
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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Jul 17, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously im going to yak on my laptop with every windup
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For the love of Kaline...
Took Curtis all the way to the warning track to catch that ball.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
oh come on
He keeps it interesting. We’d get bored if we could wheel Rivera out there every night.
I’m kidding.
Exactly
Who wants to watch a movie where you already know the ending? We get suspense in Detroit!
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Sheesh
I’m not sure what “closer” is supposed to mean, but putting base runners on EVERY time he comes out can’t be working in Jones’ favor.
I mean he’s getting the job done, but man….JL needs to set aside a pack just for the 9th each game.
Speaking of movies...
Anyone here going to a midnight showing of ‘The Dark Knight’?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
That's one of my goals this weekend
find the movie theater in the area, then go see “Dark knight”
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"Yesterday, we won a game. (In our case, Sunday)
We win today, that is two in a row. We win a game tomorrow, that’s called a winning streak. It has happened before.”
The greatest manager in Indians history, Lou Brown, from Major League II.
Exhibit A
Why the Tigers can’t get back into contention.
Jonesy’ll blow a few of these along the way.
No Dark Knight for me tonight.
I needed a place to vent
figured this was as good as any.
Is the doctor still in?
Figures
Leyland threatens Sheff and Reneria with reduced playing time in this morning’s paper and they suddenly look like ballplayers tonight.
Kenny Rogers looked every bit of 43 tonight.
Clearly, he's next
Just threaten to bench him, Jim.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Final Jonesey thought
Instead of making a sandwich, you can just go shop at Art Fairs. That’s a nice option for you these next couple of days.
I'd rather watch Jonesy
Art Fair in this weather isn’t going to do it for me. Wake me up on Sunday when it’s over.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
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