Game 100: Tigers (50-49) at Royals (45-55)
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 6:00 PM EDT
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PrintDetroit Tigers at Kansas City Royals, Jul 22, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
Kenny Rogers (7-6, 4.62) vs. 
Kyle Davies (3-1, 4.59)
You don't suppose the Royals might be a little jittery tonight, do you?
I mean, if I took a beating from somebody and the the next day, the same guy came back and raised his fist at me, I'd flinch. Probably wishful thinking on my part. I mean, as we've said after the Tigers had to swallow a tough loss or pounding, the schedule pushes a team to move on quickly because they have to take the field the next day. Besides, this Tigers team could easily follow up last night's run barrage with a pop-and-sputter effort.
Kenny Rogers is probably hoping his lineup saved some offense for tonight, because he's been giving up some runs lately. In three of his last five starts, Rogers has allowed four runs or more. (In those other two, he allowed three runs.) And in four of those games, opposing lineups got more than eight hits off him. In his last two starts (covering 13 innings), Rogers has given up 20 hits.
When Rogers faced the Royals in Kauffman Stadium earlier this season, they rocked him for seven runs and 11 hits in four innings. Both of these teams are now playing differently than they were back in May, but Rogers' recent history is something to consider. He has lost his last four starts against Kansas City.
Kyle Davies is winless in his last five starts, during which he's posted a 5.25 ERA. Since getting slammed for seven runs by the Orioles earlier this month, Davies has given up a combined six runs in his last two starts (12 2/3 innings). In two starts against the Tigers last season, he compiled a 1-1 record and 3.86 ERA.
Any chance the Royals send Jimmy Gobble back out there tonight? I mean, the best way to forget about a bad outing (10 runs! One inning!) is to get right back on the horse and try again, right?
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Whoever has it first
MLB.com, Yahoo!, or Jason Beck on his blog, usually.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ask and ye shall receive
Los Tigres
CF Granderson, Curtis
2B Polanco, Placido
3B Guillen, Carlos
RF Ordonez, Magglio
1B Cabrera, Miguel
LF Joyce, Matt
DH Sheffield, Gary
C Rodriguez, Ivan
SS Renteria, Edgar
Royales
LF DeJesus, David
SS Aviles, Mike
2B Grudzielanek, Mark
RF Guillen, Jose
DH Butler, Billy
3B German, Esteban
C Buck, John
1B Gload, Ross
CF Gathright, Joey
Starting Lineups
DETROIT
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Matt Joyce, LF
7. Gary Sheffield, DH
8. Pudge Rodriguez, C
9. Edgar Renteria, SS
KANSAS CITY
1. David DeJesus, LF
2. Mike Aviles, SS
3. Mark Grudzielanek, 2B
4. Jose Guillen, RF
5. Billy Butler, DH
6. Esteban German, 3B
7. John Buck, C
8. Ross Gload, 1B
9. Joey Gathright, CF
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
Now THAT is service
Double the pleasure, double the fun.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks
I appreciate it, however I do not appreciate Edgar Renteria or Gary Sheffiel din the line up anymore..I know Edgar has been playing hard thru an injury but he has done nothing all year..and they pure reason we got him was Guillen is getting older and his range at short was not that good anymore..and Now Renteria suffers from the syndrome…and Santiago has looked pretty good with the bat so far this year..why not give him 4-5 starts in a row and see what he does..rest the injured old guy..and I think you know how I feel about Gary Sheffield..I dont care if Thames bats .100 against lefties..he should be in the line up of Sheffield
No real argument
Your points are valid, but I believe that what our friend Jimmy is doing is basically giving them one last chance. Perform now, or we’ll replace you. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s just my feeling.
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 22, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
my entire family is big Leyland fans including my self..but I thought his job was to put the line up together that he thought gives us the best chance to win…I do not see how anyone that watches the Tigers day in and day out could think Chef gives us a better chane then Thames???
Management
One of the things that makes a good manager in any line of work is balancing egos. I believe that that is what made Joe Torre so good in NYC. He had to balance all those superegos all the time. Leyland has to put the best lineup he can on the field, but he has to do so without creating personality issues. Like it or not, they can damage a team, whether it’s a baseball team or a crew working for the power company.
It’s doing both at the same time that makes a manager good.
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 22, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
On the other hand...
Sheffield has looked better in the past few games, in part because Leyland HAS cut back on his playing time. Sheffield and Joyce have hot bats at the moment, so Thames is out tonight, but certainly not for long. If Leyland can keep working Sheff back to his normal self, THAT gives us a better chance to win. Gary is one of the best hitters of his generation, and if Leyland sees increasing production, he will continue to get starts. I will, however, be accepting arguments that Renteria in the lineup is hurting our chances.
Renteria
See, I only have two problems with Edgar. His fielding and his batting. Other than that, he’s a FABULOUS player!
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 22, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Our Favorite Oriole
Apparently Luke Scott’s heroics this weekend have earned him some recognition. He just received an intentional walk in the 4th inning. Granted, it was to set up the force, but still…
Sorry cant get off this subkect..thats like telling me Darren McCarty should have started over Franzen because its better for the locker room..who cares about the 15 or so playoff goals we would not have around…it just doesnt make sence..now I am done lets play some baseball!!
Thames vs. Sheffield
I think the question is whether or not Thames is really an everyday player. Sure, like everyone else, I’d love to see him get a chance. Who knows what he could do with more at-bats? But why hasn’t he ever gotten them? What does Leyland see (or not see) that has always prevented him from committing?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No Jimmy Gobble
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
I think his ASS should be hurting
After the way those Tiger batters pounded him last night.
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 22, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
grandy helped him out there!
Check out Tony K and (tigs) jimdale's blog at baseballbrew.blogspot.com
CG
looks pretty fleet of foot these days, especially compared to how he limped around a lot last year.
that's the maggs we've come to know!
Check out Tony K and (tigs) jimdale's blog at baseballbrew.blogspot.com
Davies...
this guy is going to go about four innings if all goes well for him.
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I think we're fine
Since Nate Robertson isn’t starting.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
Uh-oh
I just used “we.” I try so hard not to do that. :-)
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I know...
I catch myself doing that from time to time.
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by spotstarters on Jul 22, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Tired Arm
If our rotation was more stable, say D train was actually that this year, a train; don’t you think Nasty Nate would be looking at 15 day stint on the DL ala last year?
Ian, can you make a “K” wall for pitchers during gamethreads?
Go Tigers!
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That's a good idea
But you’re not suggesting we start it with Kenny Rogers, are you? :-)
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Like if we had seven strikeouts, it’d be KKKKKKKenny Rodgers.
Dice-KKKKK Matsuzaka
Josh BecKKKKKett, etc.
Go Tigers!
Detroit Red Wings - 2008 Stanley Cup Champions
We could do it with Nate Robertson, too
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I picking on Nate too much tonight?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I know it's early...
but The Gambler is looking less than dominant.
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Trades
From what I’m reading in the newspapers, there are not many moves that seem to be available. I think Jack Wilson would be an affordable addition along with Marte if we could get him. Any ideas?
Down here in Houston, everyone is slaughtering Ed Wade for the Randy Wolf deal.
by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 22, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
Did the 'Stros actually pull the trigger on that?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yep..
it’s a done deal.
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by spotstarters on Jul 22, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that makes no sense
Are the Astros in the NL Central race? Why buy?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Clete
Mud Hens down 9-0 in the 4th, Clete without a hit, ‘Hens have made 4 errors.
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 22, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Did "Jack Wilson"
just get typed in the thread? You have got to be kidding me!!!!!!! Not again, we need no talk of that, AGAIN.
By the way, is there a theme developing here…..(pop up, pop up, pop up)
Jon Paul Morosi was on the Jack Wilson thing big-time last year
I thought for sure Wilson must have been his brother-in-law or something.
But this year, nothing.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
might as well keep Edgar and save the prospects
although the Pirates miust be itching to trade Wilson, so he might be had cheaply
Boy...
it is just not very hard to get Gary Sheffield out anymore.
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if the Tigers can get Davies into triple digits by the 5th
I’d feel pretty good about the tigers chances
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
When Polly hits it out
It should be a good night.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions
Ugie
Is still playing a 20-year game of rock hockey
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 22, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Bench Edgar
Bench Edgar and move Guillen to SS and Keep Inge at third. DD has to admith this mistake of getting Edgar
by jerseyboyinmi on Jul 22, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Credit to Joyce
For having the patience and discipline to draw a walk, rather than try to jack it out and maybe pop it up.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
I'm starting to think
Joyce could be the real deal
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 22, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
almost 130 pitches thrown by the Royals
they might need Tony Pena to throw three innings tomorrow
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
Well sports fans
I’ve got an early flight to Baltimore in the morning, so I’m gonna have to bag it. Go Tigs!
Have a good night, Pete
Stay cool in Balto.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
There you go Kenny
slam the door after your offense gets you runs. Nate please take notes
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
Just like Leyland likes
and the fans too. Keeping the opponents off the board after the tigs score runs
if you liked Batman Begins you'll like this one
158 million dollars over the weekend can’t be wrong, right?
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
Hey guys
Just got back from my softball game. We won 26-6, called the pitcher Jimmy Gobble, and I turn on the game and Renteria gets a hit…..I like this
grudzielanek
i hate him twice as much just beacuse it takes 2 minutes for my to type his damn name
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
So what's everyone's rain delay entertainment?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
watching a bootleg version of the Dark Knight
plan on paying to see it in theaters again sometime later this week….
I was incredibly impressed
how great was Ledger as the Joker? the Joker is probably the greatest comic book villain, and Ledger played him perfectly. The Joker isn’t the campy, funny character from the old TV show, he’s a psychotic, homicidal maniac, and that’s how Heath played him….
Could not agree more
This was Killing Joke style Joker, but a bit more sadistic. I was blown away, and I know I missed a lot because the scope of the flick was pretty overwhelming.
yes
This is the Joker in all his Killing Joke, deadly madness. I really liked seeing one of the great villians treated with the respect he deserves. The Joker is madness incarnate, and that is what Ledger portrays….
No question...
this was the truest movie interpretation to comic book lore. Joker doesn’t kill for money. He does it because he thinks it is funny. That is terrifying if you think about it.
At first, I thought the Oscar talk was too much
But looking back at recent history, playing really great villains gets rewarded. Anthony Hopkins/Hannibal Lecter, Javier Bardem/Anton Chigurh…
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
With Ian on this one
I thought the Oscar talk was just because Ledger passed away. Then I saw the film. He definitely deserves a nomination and quite possibly to win.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 22, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, although...
I thought Oldman as Gordon was nearly as good. Not as showy a part, but he was great.
Oldman
He WAS good. He’s played the over-the-top bad guy so many times, and now playing a genuine good guy looks that much more impressive.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Couldn't believe..
He is the same guy who played the pimp in True Romance, a flick with some Detroit flavor. Very underrated actor.
everyone was good
I thought Harvey Dent/Two Face was great too. However, Heath Ledger was trascendent as the Joker, and I think he overshadows everything else….
Yes, sir
Sunday night. I can’t wait.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Rogers
will probably be done when game starts back up
ESPN
I’m trying to figure out why ESPN thought it would be a good idea to give PTI the “week off.”
I mean, 1 hour of sportscenter is tolerable, but 2 hours this week?
What the hell is that?
I think I'd rather have no PTI
instead of Jay Mariotti subbing for Kornheiser.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Anything involving Mariotti is trouble.
Try living in Chicago where he is inescapable. Makes me long for Mitch.
yeah
cause he only writes once per week and it’s seldom sports!
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 22, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Do Chicagoans really like him?
Maybe that’s a stupid question. But he seems so universally despised.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't met one who does...
Except a friend who used to drink with him, and that is only because he bought. He is a contrarian just to be a pain. Example-Urlacher got a big contract extension today, and Mariotti wrote a two page spread barbecuing the guy-for basically no reason. He just likes to be negative.
Which is the exact reason why
I hate Around The Horn anytime Mariotti is on it.
He is living proof that the show is a complete circus
sounds like drew sharp
cant stand him
by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 22, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Baseball Tonight
Was it me or did they set up the Tigers highlights by proclaiming they were facing the Rangers?
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 22, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
If you hate Skip Bayless as much as I do.....
you need to go to www.awfulannouncing.com and check out the second most recent post.
I have to laugh because I did not think this guy could sink to a new low.
How is he still employed? Oh wait, he works for ESPN.
If you're a fan of Awful Announcing
The ‘On the DL’ podcast had a good interview with Brian Powell this week.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would win in a b*tching match?
Bayless or Mariotti?
I would put my money on Bayless
Although he may preen too much at some point and that could take him off topic. Most of those clowns are complete marks for themselves. No one is worse about that than Mike and Mike. Apparently, they were serious when they named the show after themselves, as that is all they talk about.
Oh man, that was awful
Just when you thought Skip Bayless couldn’t look like more of an ass.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
Right?
I mean, did you see Jay Crawford’s reaction? He almost fell out of his chair.
Skip definitely drank a 64oz Haterade before he went on that set
That was awful. I sometimes watch First and 10 too, but Dana Jacobson is awesome. She’s a Tigers fan. (I know this because she said “This is good for my Tigers since CC is no longer in the AL Central.”)
Go Tigers!
Detroit Red Wings - 2008 Stanley Cup Champions
that's cancelled out
because she’s also a U of M fan (alum)!
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 22, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
WNBA
I’m watching the news and see that the Shock and Sparks got into it tonight. Doesn’t quite have the same entertainment value as the Malice, though
haha!
I just saw that on my local news as well
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 22, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Tarp still on the field
If you turned away from FSN. But the rain is apparently lightening up.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
I'd love to post
Nate Robertson: In Ian’s Words from Saturday night.
But we like to keep it PG-13 here.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know, kids
It’s getting close to Uncle Ian’s bedtime.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 22, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions
Tarp still on the field
If anyone’s still with us, I’m calling it a night. Recap tomorrow.
If FSN doesn’t even have baseball stuff to show, this rain delay’s been too long.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 23, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions
Good time to get back home...
Took everyone’s advice and saw Dark Knight tonight and get home to find baseball just underway. Ledger. Holy. Shit.
Rodney
looks pretty dang good tonight. 4 strike outs in 2 innings
All Done
7-1…..............Cya all in 12 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoooo
Last Post hear at 1:38 am ET . That’s where normally my Tigers Games begin :LOL (although this is then CEST).
Great Win . Second in a row without me viewing. I’ll do this for todays game, too. Seems to work. First 6 Games against the Royals all watched ….all lost. Last two games not watched and 2 wins (without any doubts). So I’ll keep myself away from mlb.tv for today again. Is it too much superstition? Maybe
Greetings from Germany. Dirk
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