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Do You Hear That? Sounds Like... Trade Whispers!

With the non-waiver trade deadline less than a week away, and the Detroit Tigers currently 5 1/2 games out of first place in the AL Central, the winds of rumor are beginning to swirl around a team that previously looked to be sitting out of the wheeling-and-dealing fun that could take place throughout baseball.

Did we think we heard the name "Sheffield" or is it just the wind making that "shhh" noise as it blows by?  (Or maybe I heard Blake make that sound.)  According to ESPN.com's Jayson Stark, the Tigers are apparently jingling Gary Sheffield around the league to see if there's any interest in him.  Despite the .221/.331/.365 average, there's still some sizzle to that waggle, as many hopeful Tigers fans point out, and Sheffield could help a team in need of a right-handed bat.  But how could Detroit make a deal compelling?  By agreeing to eat a significant portion of the $14 million that Sheff is owed next season. 

Another veteran underperformer who the Tigers might like to deal is Edgar Renteria.  And there could be a willing trade partner in the Los Angeles Dodgers.  If the Dodgers' front office can decide who's actually making the call, SI.com's Jon Heyman reports that a veteran shortstop is at the top of their shopping list.  One team they might have to compete with on that is the White Sox, who are apparently willing to deal Orlando Cabrera.

The purpose behind any deal, of course, would be to get pitching.  (Though Stark says a young shortstop is also on the Detroit's wish list.)  And either the Orioles or Blue Jays have someone the Tigers are interested in, according to the Baltimore Sun.  The question, as Billfer points out, is whether O's reliever George Sherrill is the guy Detroit scouts were checking out, or Jays starter A.J. Burnett.

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The initial thought is that the Tigers don't need a left-handed reliever, with Bobby Seay and Casey Fossum already in the major league bullpen, with Clay Rapada a drive up I-75 away from contributing to the cause.  But maybe it doesn't matter which hand Sherrill throws with, if he's the best available reliever on the market.  As it is, Sherrill might be a higher priority for other teams, and the Tigers might just be looking into what's being asked for or offered. 

(Is it worth once again asking why Detroit traded Denny BautistaProbably not.)

And as far as Burnett goes, we know he's a guy Dave Dombrowski has always been interested in, having acquired him when he was running the operation for the Florida Marlins.  And starting pitching is arguably a greater need for the Tigers right now, anyway. 

One reliever who's no longer available, if he was on Detroit's list of hopefuls, is Jon Rauch, who was dealt to the Arizona Diamondbacks earlier this week for second base prospect Emilio Bonifacio.  I'm out of my league when it comes to minor league stuff, but when I see a deal like that, my first thought is usually, "Could the Tigers have made that deal?"  Am I suggesting Detroit should've given up Michael Hollimon for Rauch?  Probably not, if they see him as Placido Polanco's eventual replacement in 2010.

Besides, maybe the Nationals were looking for speed in a deal.  And perhaps the Tigers' hands were tied by so many middle infield injuries throughout their minor league system.  But if Freddy Dolsi's shoulder problems don't clear up soon, Detroit might also be asking what else they can do to nab a reliever.

So does this chatter get you excited, or is it far too optimistic to think that Sheffield or Renteria could somehow be dealt to get pitching help in return?

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Oh go ahead and get 'em both - Burnett and Sherrill

Sherrill, being a flame throwing lefty would be perfect for our bullpen. A.J. had a great last outing, but he’s a righty. I can’t foresee him taking Robertson’s spot, but I guess that all depends how how Gum Time pitches tonight or how Miner pitches in his next start.

Sheff may have something more in him, but maybe it’s time to say thank you and let him go. Joyce now needs to be a full-timer and if someone in the OF gets hurt then bring Clete back up.

Should be a fun week of trades and a fun weekend at the ball park. I just hope we don’t give up some of the Mud Hens I’ve grown attached to.

Dolsi’s doing a signing with Pudge at Fanatic U in Southfield this weekend. Is signing autographs good for the shoulder?

- MSU4LIF

by MSU4LIF on Jul 25, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

deals

I doubt Hollimon, Sheff or Rents will get dealt. Hollimon (in my humble opinion) might actually be our starter next season. Depending on what the return is I could see the Tigers deal Polanco in the off-season in order to get a replacement for Rogers or a ML-ready SS prospect. Of course a lot depends upon how the rest of his season at AAA goes and how he’ll perform when he – presumably – gets a September call-up. But the kid has little more to prove in the minors and at 26 years old it would be a shame to stick him in Toledo for two more seasons.

Sheffield just doesn’t seem to fit anywhere. I doubt any team is going to chance putting him in the field and most of the contenders have DH options. MAYBE DomBro could swing a deal with the Rays to get Reid Brignac, a solid SS prospect who could potentially be used this year, but I won’t get my hopes up.

Renteria might be a little more likely but only if the Tigers are confident that Santiago could handle 50-60 games at SS. My guess is they aren’t. Nonetheless, compared to the other two guys he might be a cheaper option (for the Dodgers) though I’m not sure what the Sox want for Cabrera.

I get the feeling that The Tigers won’t be buyers this week, but they might be sellers. DomBro seems confident that a healthy club could contend for the division but understands that if we tank over the next week he might as well sell some parts. Maybe he truely believes that Miner can fill in as a starter and maybe he also believes that Willis can make a comeback…and don’t forget about Garcia.

Burnett, I am sorry to say is probably not an option. The Jays can get two picks if they let him walk so it’s doubtful that anything under two top prospects will land him. I asked Will Carroll if Thames/Rodney/Larish would be enough and he said “no.” I think much more than that borders on foolish for a rental and I also don’t think DomBro is in the business of making blockbusters for guys who are only under team control for a few months.

by MacRae on Jul 25, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Burnett

He’s got a player option for next year, and if he keeps pitching horribly, he’ll exercise it and Toronto will get screwed. That’s the reason he’s a pretty cheap pickup.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 25, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forgot to mention in prior comment.

I had earlier this week stated to move Guillen back to SS and Inge at 3B. Inge would still be back-up catcher and on his off days move Guillen back to 3B and Santiago to SS.

Well….now I notice that’s just too much moving around for Guillen who deserves to be in one place…...so I noticed this on a Yahoo blog comment yesterday….....

Why not move Inge to SS five days a week. Move Inge to back-up Pudge one day a week and on Inge’s off day Santiago will start giving Santiago two starts during the week, too.

We’ve got let Renteria go. His defense has now become below average and so has his offense. Get him back to the NL where he belongs. Dodgers could use him. Bring Derek Lowe back home.

by MSU4LIF on Jul 25, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Burnett

NOOOOOO. He has one of the worst contracts in baseball. Somehow he was able to get a contract w/ an out clause for him, not the team. So, if he turns into Dontrelle 2.0 the team is on the books for the remainder of the contract. If he pitches like Doyle Alexander 2.0 down the stretch he can become a free agent. Not worth it.

by tbliggins on Jul 25, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Burnett/Inge/Platoons

Inge has never played SS. Not in the minors, not in MLB. He’s a great athlete and all but I don’t want to ask another guy to get used to a new position with 2 months to go.

Assuming Rents gets dealt a suggestion I had made to a friend would be to let Santiago play SS against righties. He’s a lifetime .250/.320/.335 hitter when facing RHP. That’s not great but it’s still better than what Renteria is producing at the plate right now (.258/.309/.327).

Against lefties move Guillen to short and let either Inge or Raburn play 3B. Granted playing Guillen at SS is a risk, but even if Detroit faces EVERY LEFTHANDED STARTER from opposing teams for the rest of the season that amounts to just 28 games. That includes the chance that Pettite faces us in our make-up game with the Yankees.

Detroit is one of the few teams where Burnett’s opt out clause shouldn’t matter. Since he’s basically replacing Bonderman we already have a built in repalcement for him in case he walks (which he probably would). And even if he did, we get two draft picks, something the farm system could really use right now. I agree that I wouldn’t want another Doyle/Smoltz trade and give up Porcello for him, but if we can get him for a package that includes Larish and maybe Clevlen or Ramirez, it might not be such a bad deal.

by MacRae on Jul 25, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Opt out clause

I am much more worried about him pitching poorly and not opting out. If he pitches well and they got a couple of draft picks that would be fine. I don’t want them to trade players/prospects for him and he craps the bed. Then he would come back and potentially crap the bed for 2 more yrs at $12M+ per year. We already have Nate to do that for $5M less.

Best case 1 (most likely to happen division): He pitches well down the stretch and opts out. We gave up players/prospects for 2 months of AJ and 2 draft picks.

Best case 2 (not as likely division): He pitches well down the stretch and stays w/ the club and continues to pitch well for the next 2 years. We gave up players/prospects for 2+ years of a better than league average pitcher at $12M+ per year. Obv this would be ideal.

Worst case: He craps the bed down the stretch and stays w/ the club continuing to crap the bed for 2 more years. We gave up players/prospects for 2+ years of a worse than league average pitcher at $12M+ per year.

Obviously there is a grey area in the middle of those 3 scenarios, but I just don’t think the risk is anywhere near worth it for a pitcher of his background.

by tbliggins on Jul 25, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think “crapping the bed” is less of a concern than injury. The guy has never posted an ERA above 4.00 in any season where he’s pitched 100+ innings since his first full year in 2001. He consistently posts an ERA+ that is at or above 15% better than league average. And he strikes out close to a batter an inning. This is not Nate Robertson redux.

He has however been on the DL 10 times in his career and has only pitched 200+ innings twice in the past 7 seasons.

by MacRae on Jul 25, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inge played SS in college

and was also a relief pitcher.

Check Wiki

by MSU4LIF on Jul 25, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That doesn’t really help. He was drafted 10 years ago.

by MacRae on Jul 25, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sheff to TB?

They are looking for a right handed bat with power, they have tons of prospects, Sheff’s from there. And he could follow in the footsteps of Wade Boggs and Fred McGriff by ending a hall of fame career as a Ray

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 25, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To Hell With It

Sell Sheff, Rents, Rodriguez and the bullpen (except Zumaya). If these guys can’t hold a lead against a divisional team we might as well give up. That was awful, awful, awful, awful.

by MacRae on Jul 25, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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