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Pardon me if I stay on the floor after this one.  I can't get up.  It feels safer down here.  With my face pressed against the carpet, and my eyes clenched shut.  It hurts to look.  At anything. 

Words are hard to come by.  Especially clean ones.  There will certainly be no effort to defend a pitcher who no longer can be defended.  Todd Jones has one job.  To close out ballgames.  And he is absolutely, undeniably terrible at it.

If coffee is for closers, Jones deserves to drink nothing but motor oil.

No other major league team has to tolerate this.  No other fan base suffers like this in the ninth inning.  As I said in tonight's GameThread, this would almost be funny if it weren't so painfully sad.  Jones giving up a two-run homer to Jermaine Dye after retiring the first two batters in the inning is exactly the result Tigers fans joke about.  And they joke because it's the only way to deny the nauseating, soul-crushing truth.  Jones doesn't just blow saves, he obliterates them.  Wins become losses far too often in his hands.

A team with intentions to compete for a division title cannot continue to employ a pitcher like Jones in its closer role and expect to be taken seriously. 

To make matters even worse, I don't think the guy everyone would like to see take Jones's job is ready for it, either.  Joel Zumaya hardly put out a fire tonight.

Several in the GameThread said this overtakes last Saturday's loss in Baltimore as the worst of the season.  Given what was at stake and how a win disintegrated in one pitch, it's difficult to argue.

Roll Call

Here are 22 poor souls who had their Friday night vomited upon.

Condolences to spotstarters, ThaWalrus9, rock n rye, MSU4LIF, BigAl, pfuhrmeister, rook34, ahtrap, dettigionswings'stons, Wingz, Oost, MackAveKurt, ReichardZ, Jerkwheat, densogirl, LosTigres, bradm, Iamthewa1rus, explosivo2k2, Tigsfan, wepri31, and Zappatista for finding out there is no Santa Claus tonight.  

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Well put...

the guy just can’t get it done any longer. Something tells me Leyland will keep sending him out there though.

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Jul 25, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We have entered...

Borowski territory with Jonesy. There is no way out. The killer wasn’t even the Dye homer-it was falling behind him 2-0. He was cooked at that point. The only way he was going to get Dye out down 2-0 was if Dye missed. And he did not miss.

The killer came 0-2 to Quentin. Too good a pitch on 0-2.

No idea who to throw out there in the event we have it to close out tomorrow. It would probably be best to just leave Verlander out there, for his own mental state if not ours.
This has been one brutal season. What would be even worse is that we win tomorrow, all get hyped again about a chance to win the series, then watch the bullpen implode again on Sunday. That is how the season has gone. Doom, Hope, to be quickly followed by Doom. Repeat.

“I’ve been dragging my heels with a bitch called Hope. Let the undercurrent drag me along.” Guns N’ Roses, 1992

by rook34 on Jul 25, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

His name is not even worth typing anymore

I vote for expunging his name from Tigers History. Congrats Mike Henneman, the All-time Save mark is yours again

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 25, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Henneman...

Any chances he’s available right now to pitch some relief innings?

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Jul 26, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I had stuff to do, didn’t hear anything after the 5 or 6th, when we were still up 4-1, and Magglio got taken out in the bizarre strike ‘em out, pickle ‘em out double play to destroy a promising inning….

It hurts, but it hurts worse to hear how it happened, another blown save, another Jones misadventure….

What did Arizona give up to get Rauch….nothing?

this is retardiculous!

by ahtrap on Jul 26, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This has to be it...

I was at the Baltimore game of which you speak and although that does not make me an authority on “worsts” I agree that this is in fact worse. The entirety of the Baltimore game was just wild and while that doesn’t make it ok that we lost it wasn’t entirely unexpected. Plus, Polanco put us ahead, we got screwed by the umps.

This is worse because Jones beat us. We had the divsional leader and he blew it. At least with Baltimore you can say “way to go little guy” when they win. With these guys you have to watch Nick Swisher and the rest of the bleached beard morons hi-five each other and have macho-seizures in the dugout. I hate that team and I don’t care all that much for Todd Jones anymore either.

Continuing to send Jones out there in the 9th is foolish and if it happens it’s the result of poor management. Zumaya may not be “ready” to do it, but I’d rather watch him learn how to adjust to the role than watch Jones tear my heart out and let Jermaine Dye beat it with a baseball bat.

by MacRae on Jul 26, 2008 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This one really hurt

I keep telling myself it’s only 1 of 162 games, and the first time Jones has taken the loss this year, but its not helping. They need to win the next 2 games now.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 26, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it’s 3 o’clock on Saturday and I’m still pissed about it

by Jerkwheat on Jul 26, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok last night sucked

Bright sides:
1) JV on the mound tonight
2) After this series, 4 against an Indian team without CC and Casey Blake. While the Sox and Twins play in Minny
3) I have a good job and no parole officer, that same can’t be said of most White Sox fans.

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 26, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry

We’ll win six in a row, and Minnesota will sweep the Sux.

gumtime.mlblogs.com

by Tony K on Jul 26, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How Many Ways To Count The Awfulness of Jones?

I am not interested in hearing his save percentage quoted as evidence that Jones is a good closer. Anyone who takes a cursory glance at the save rule quickly realizes that it’s basically a meaningless stat that produces very high rates of success.

The notion that a pitcher who is otherwise terrible is imbued with special powers that make him a good pitcher in the 9th (or vice-versa) is, well, retarded. Todd Jones isn’t a bad closer; he’s a bad pitcher. Consider the evidence:

ERA 4.99
Opponent batting average .293
Strikeout rate 2.95 batters/9IP

Those are all terrible stats, but the last one in particular is really something. That K rate puts Jonesy last of the 183 AL pitchers that have thrown 20 or more innings this season. Yes, worse than Eddie Bonine. What this means is that he is unable to fool the hitter. Ever. Jones has commented that he gets the job done with smoke, mirrors and luck. He’s correct; luck is exactly how he was getting it done. Luck, however – and try and wrap your brain around this concept – is not a skill and therefore is not something that is consistently repeatable. Luck is finding a wallet on a street on a Friday afternoon, but Jones would have you believe he’ll be back next week at the same time to find another one. AL hitters’ bats know better, and continuing to use 59 in the highest leverage game situations is a luxury the Tigers simply cannot afford.

The question of who to use in Jones’s stead is simply answered: Anyone. Sure Joel Zumaya has been wild. So has Fernando Rodney. Aquilino Lopez has trouble with lefties. All of these guys have warts, and all of them are much, much better options than Todd Jones.

by ChetLemon on Jul 26, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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