Game 104: White Sox (59-43) at Tigers (52-51)
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
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Javier Vazquez (7-8, 4.57) vs. 
Zach Miner (4-3, 3.73)
Trying to keep the damage to a minimum is what the Tigers are left with in today's series finale. Detroit came into the weekend 5 1/2 games behind the White Sox, and if they can keep the deficit at 6 1/2... well, that's better than 8 1/2. So is staying above .500.
Javier Vazquez is winless in his last five starts, but that doesn't necessarily reflect how he's pitched. Vazquez threw 10 strikeouts versus Texas in his previous outing, but served up one home run ball to Josh Hamilton, and that was the difference in the game. The Tigers got to Vazquez the last time they faced him, tagging him for five runs and 10 hits in six innings. Before that, however, Vazquez shut them out over seven innings. In both games, Detroit struck out nine times.
Zach Miner was exactly what the Tigers needed in his first start of the season against the Royals, allowing no runs and just three hits in six innings. For one game, anyway, Miner looked like the answer to Detroit's season-long quest for a fifth starting pitcher. But both as a starter and reliever, Miner has struggled against the White Sox. As a starter in 2006, Miner had an 0-2 record and 13.50 ERA, throwing just 6 1/3 innings. As a reliever this season, he has a 9.00 ERA in just four innings.
In today's Freep, John Lowe points out that Magglio Ordonez can do something that hasn't been done in 32 years if he gets three hits for the fifth straight game. The last player to have a streak like that was George Brett, who got three hits in six straight games back in 1976. Maggs' recent hit parade has him tied for second place in the AL batting race at .324, four points behind the Rangers' Ian Kinsler.
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Starting Lineups
WHITE SOX
1. Orlando Cabrera, SS
2. A.J. Pierzynski, C
3. Carlos Quentin, LF
4. Jermaine Dye, RF
5. Jim Thome, DH
6. Paul Konerko, 1B
7. Nick Swisher, CF
8. Alexei Ramirez, 2B
9. Juan Uribe, 3B
DETROIT
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Gary Sheffield, DH
7. Marcus Thames, LF
8. Pudge Rodriguez, C
9. Edgar Renteria, SS
No Sunday line-ups today. Think Jimmy wants a win?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply actions
I think I'll watch with the sound off
Actually I have to take my little one to 4H camp today in this horrible thunderstorm, so I’m going to TiVo it and watch when I get home.
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 27, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep,
we already have a “you can put it on the board!” I fucking hate AJ gay and the announcers, and, and (you get the point?)
That's the story
of this season. Yes, the Tigers can tie a game but, the recent series against KC notwithstanding, can NOT pile on the runs.
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That was a slick play by Uribe
Marcus got robbed.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
Other than the long ball served up to Pierzynski...
I’d say he’s been pretty good.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Question
The Tigers seem to have “killers” on every team—i.e., “That guy kills the Tigers.” Joe Crede, Joe Mauer, Casey Blake, Jim Thome, Pierzynski, etc. Do the Tigers have anyone that other teams feel kills them?
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Wow, that's a good one
I’m not sure I have an answer.
But maybe that’s because Neifi is no longer on the team.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
in his first 34 plate appearances against the Indians
Cabrera is hitting .441/.429/.853 (1.282 OPS) with 4 HRs and 14 RBI.
of course
Miggy is good, so I guess it’s not too surprising he’s beat up on some of the AL teams so far.
Just tuned in
(with the bonus Get the game on WGN, so actually get to watch it on the TV (in HD no less)) for the first time this series.
When did Uribe start rocking the “supervillian henchman blonde goatee and glasses”?
aaaaaaaaand way to give away an AB shef.
I was going to stay away from thje game thread
but I can’t help myself. I was ready for more emotional distress, but so far, so good.
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Deepest sympathies to those out-of-staters without XM
i couldn’t take more that 5 minutes of Homer Harrelson
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how many ABs since Marcus went yard?
he’s going deep sometime today
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
Jermaine Frickin' Dye
Comerica Park just cannot hold this guy.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
for those who play fantasy baseball, perhaps you can feel my pain
I own Todd Jones, AND the guy I’m playing this week has Dye.
I dislike Jermaine Dye in his professional capacity as a baseball player for the White Sox. I am sure he is an ok guy outside of that role. If not, I hope he is susceptible to rashes.
Well, Cheaterynski is a case all onto himself.
No one in their right mind would like him.
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Did I just hear that?
Harrelson just called Juan Gonzalez the biggest boner in MLB history?
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Sadly
The WGN telecast is blacked out here in metro Detroit.
It’s really breaking me up. No Hawk and DJ?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Selig
That is what I don’t get. Yesterday, I am blacked out from watching it on MLBtv as I am close to Chicago (Indianapolis), BUT they were playing in DETROIT? Really, how in the hell does that work?
blackout rules are dumb
I’m in Mobile, AL and am blacked out from seeing the Braves (5 hr drive), Rays (7 hr drive), and Marlins (10 hr drive). Only the Braves are shown on TV here.
Also, the Astros (7 hr drive) and Rangers (10 hr drive), aren’t blacked out.
Are Mario and Rod really going to be debating Rob Parker's column?
On Goose Gossage? This is a waste of breath.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
Mario and Rod
I loved how Rod mentioned that Pudge caught Vazquez in the World Baseball Classic, as if it may have had something to do with him getting a hit.
Then Mario asks, “Do you think that helps him?”
Rod: “Not really.”
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
gotta love Rod Allen
they’ve got 162 of these things to do, gotta dig deep (unless you’re Joe Morgan, he only watches the 20 or so games he broadcasts)
Sso coming up...
Cleveland, Tampa Bay, CWS, Oakland, Toronto and Baltimore in the next 20 games, with the Oakland, Toronto and Baltimore at home. I like what the Tigers could do especially on the road in Cleveland and that homestand. Just taking that series in Chicago will obviously be key. Going to need some luck as the White Sox, play nearly the same lineup of teams. Having them get swept by the Red Sox and struggle against the Royals will help. Tigers get some relief help and go 15-5 or better and the Tigers are probably no more than 3 out going into the end of August.
by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 27, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions
it's not the toughest schedule
especially seeing as the A’s, Toronto, and Baltimore may trade off some guys between now and then. It’s good that the White Sox still have 7 against the Red Sox and 4 in New York. Really kind of need a sweep in Chicago now though, even if they get this win today…
News You Can't Use
Just saw this tidbit in Buster Olney’s column today:
Rondell White is Mets manager Jerry Manuel’s son-in-law.
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saw that too
he says ” From Mark Simon of ESPN Research, on Albert Pujols’ home run: The last opposing player to hit a game-winning HR at Shea Stadium in the 14th inning or later: Rondell White, 1997 Expos (15th inning). This would be fairly insignificant, but for one thing … Rondell White is Mets manager Jerry Manuel’s son-in-law.”
An interesting tidbit, but I still think it’s fairly insignificant.
The Hammer!
rock n rye gets the psychic award today
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 2:47 PM EDT reply actions
Another solo shot
Still wondering why Marcus didn’t hit for Renteria in the ninth inning on Friday night.
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Truly baffling
It’s not like there wasn’t defensive help on the bench for later innings.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Just saw it
Your new closer… Fernando Rodney.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Why isn't Thames playing every day?
I could care less about his average, the man a threat to go deep every AB.
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saw it abot the smae time you did, Mike
but now I wonder what inning we’ll have to suffer through Jones on. 7th? 8th?
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 27, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice double by Renteria
Swisher made a bad turn in centerfield, but who knows if he gets to that ball anyway.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
I doubt it
They’d probably have done it rather than the demotion.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 27, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't imagine him pitching set-up
Jones can’t strike anyone out. Do you want to see him come in with two runners on and no outs?
If he’s not closing, he has no role on this team.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Considering the only thing he's capable of is closing,
Yes.
He can’t do any other job in the pen.
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Traded to some random team
I’ll say the Pirates, because the ‘stache would look kickin in a Pirate costume.
Yeah
Probably not today but maybe going forward: Zumaya/Dolsi/Rodney. Or flip Zumaya and Dolsi?
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Now that was the sort of inning I expect from Zumaya
I just wish we’d seen more of it.
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can't see this making sense from the O's perspective
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 27, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think the Tigers have what they want
I’ve read they’re looking for a shortstop.
So are the Tigers.
They’re going to one two prime puzzle pieces, and I don’t see Detroit affording that .
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 27, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to admit
that I don’t know much about Wilson but his name has been thrown around for a couple years. What’s the story on him?
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bats like Renteria
but he’s one of the best gloves in the league, you often read.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 27, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, this would be terrible timing
Is Zumaya hurt?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
Fingers are crossed the injury is NOT serious
but with Zumaya, you never know. The kid could get hurt just moving boxes…
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Can't tell what happened
Zumaya’s not favoring anything, and Rand didn’t check anything during the meeting on the mound.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I rewound the DVR, and I didn't see anything out of the ordinary either
Your guess is as good as mine as to what the Hell is wrong with Zoom.
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Rodney's the new closer?
Is that what I just heard over the radio?
Rodney
threw 12 pitches on the 25th, and threw before that on the 22nd. He could pitch the 9th if he can make quick work here.
I say send Rodney out there next inning anyway
bottom of the lineup coming up, he had to come in when he wasn’t expecting to and was out of sorts there, I think he could get the job done in the 9th.
he's at 19 pitches
I suppose you could use him but you’re pretty much taking him out of the next day’s game by doing so.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 27, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I was jesting on Jones
I’d be fine with Dolsi frankly. I think Leyland was safer when he wasn’t making concrete announcements
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 27, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Right tricep tightness for Zumaya
According to Mario.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 27, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions
Sounds like he was removed as a precaution
rather than it being something catastrophic.
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Just back from picking up some Whitecaps autographs and.....
just picked up Rodney as a fantasy closer…...
Hmmmmm….let’s see if I just jinxed him like I jinxed Zoom Zoom when I picked him up in the bottom of the 9th in Baltimore…...
Here we go…..
Could have been worse...
But not by much.
Still, 6.5 back is better than 8.5. Baby steps…
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Huuu
Haven’t written before because I didn’t want to jinx it. Now it’s official. 6-4 Tigers, at last a win . Rodney with 3 K in the 9th. Unfortunately, the Twinkies have done it again in Cleveland.
Greetings from Germany. Dirk
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