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Game 85: Tigers (42-42) at Mariners (33-51)

Detroit @ Seattle


Justin Verlander (4-9, 4.42) vs. Carlos Silva (4-9, 5.69)

After losing a series for the first time in their last seven match-ups, the Tigers head back out to the Pacific Northwest to play the Mariners, who provided Detroit with some wins even when they weren't playing that well.  The Seattle ballclub has a bit of a different look to it since they last faced the Tigers, with both the field manager and general manager getting fired, and the roster (as well as ownership, perhaps?) likely undergoing a reconstruction.

So which 4-9 pitcher would you rather have starting for your team?

Justin Verlander has racked up high pitch counts in his last two outings, which has to be a concern for the Tigers.  (Maybe that factored into the thinking of calling up Aquilino Lopez to take over for Zach Miner in middle relief.)  But Verlander has allowed two runs or less in his last four starts, so he's keeping the game under control while he's in there.  Last time he faced the Mariners in Seattle, Verlander took the loss, giving up four runs and eight hits in seven innings.  That, by the way, was the only time the Tigers have lost to the Mariners this season. 

Carlos Silva broke a personal seven-game losing streak by holding the Padres to two runs over eight innings in his last start.  He did give up eight hits, however, which is consistent with his performance all season.  Silva is sort of the much, much higher-paid version of Eddie Bonine, throwing strikes, keeping the ball on the ground, and not walking many batters.  But opposing lineups do rack up the hit totals against him.  Silva has lost both of his starts against the Tigers this season, and the most recent one was particularly brutal.  In just 2/3 of an inning, Silva gave up seven runs and seven hits.  Altogether, he's allowed 14 runs and 16 hits in 4 2/3 innings vs. Detroit this year.

I'm having problems with my internet access at home, so I don't know if I'll be able to join the BYB Brigade in tonight's GameThread.  A lot of tree limbs and a troubling number of entire trees were knocked down in my area by thunderstorms last night, and the DSL lines must have been damaged.  Maybe this is a sign to switch to cable.  Anyway, we'll see what happens.  

Lookout Landing has your SB Nation opposing view for this 4th of July weekend series.  Enjoy your holiday, everyone!

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Tonight's Lineup

Motown

Grandy CF
Polly 2B
Guillen 3B
Miggy 1B
Joyce RF
Sheff DH
Clete LF
Pudge C
Hollimon SS

Seattle

Ichiro RF
Lopez 2B
Ibanez LF
Vidro DH
Beltre 3B
Reed CF
Sexson 1B
Clement C
Betancourt SS

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 9:35 PM EDT   0 recs

It’s good to see Miggy in the lineup tonight.

by wepri31 on Jul 3, 2008 9:58 PM EDT   0 recs

agreed

great to see Miggy back in there. Losing Magglio is enough.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 10:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You know

I was listening to ESPN Radio and they said that the Tigers had more comeback wins than anyone else this season.

by pfuhrmeister on Jul 3, 2008 10:01 PM EDT   0 recs

good/bad

for obvious reasons

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

good/bad

for obvious reasons

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 10:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good to see...

Richie Sexson in the lineup.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:08 PM EDT   0 recs

agreed.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:11 PM EDT   0 recs

a cabrera HR would sure be nice

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:14 PM EDT   0 recs

I like...

how Rod just had to give us a disclaimer that if Miggy looks like he’s being lazy, it’s just because he’s hurt.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:15 PM EDT   0 recs

c'mon Miggy

can’t let this lousy pitcher get you.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 10:15 PM EDT   0 recs

damn.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:18 PM EDT   0 recs

That

Didn’t take long

by pfuhrmeister on Jul 3, 2008 10:20 PM EDT   0 recs

just another game to win from behind

by wepri31 on Jul 3, 2008 10:21 PM EDT   0 recs

i like that attitude.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

gotta tip your cap

Ichiro IS going right into the Hall of Fame after all

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 10:21 PM EDT   0 recs

fortunately

Jose Vidro stinks

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 10:24 PM EDT   0 recs

good point.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Verlander...

looks a bit off. Hopefully he gets it straight.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:24 PM EDT   0 recs

i’m having flashes of bonderman and his first inning shennanigans

by wepri31 on Jul 3, 2008 10:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i thought the same thing.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dang...

when Verlander is throwing like this it’s very tough to watch. He’ll be out by the fourth inning at this pace.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:28 PM EDT   0 recs

THANK GOD FOR SEXSON.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Anyone else feel like

in situations like this Verlander needs Leyland to curse a blue streak at him?

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 10:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Seriously....

I saw Lou Pinella come out and lace into one of his pitchers the other day. It worked.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

WTF?

Carlos Silva SUCKS

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 10:32 PM EDT   0 recs

in other news

white sox lose 2-3

by wepri31 on Jul 3, 2008 10:32 PM EDT   0 recs

LOTS of fly balls

Just need to get a little distance on them

by pfuhrmeister on Jul 3, 2008 10:33 PM EDT   0 recs

even if the Tigers lose this one 1-0

I’ll maintain Silva sucks. WTF?

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 10:34 PM EDT   0 recs

CLETE!!

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:38 PM EDT   0 recs

he comes out of nowhere…..

by wepri31 on Jul 3, 2008 10:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn't be surprised...

to see Verlander throw 40 pitches to Ichiro tonight.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Grandy!!!!

No Woman, No Cry!!!

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 10:48 PM EDT   0 recs

there we go...

that’s more like it.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 10:48 PM EDT   0 recs

Rod and Mario

They keep acting like Silva is a good pitcher. “Can you believe that Carlos Silva lost nine games in a row earlier this year?” Yes. Yes, I can.

by Grant E. on Jul 3, 2008 10:50 PM EDT   0 recs

not hearing the commentary

but yes, I can believe a terrible pitcher like Silva lost a lot of games last year.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 10:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

could be a long night for the pen.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 11:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Hey this is Carlos Silva

please enjoy watching me get beaten like a read-headed stepchild.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 11:05 PM EDT   0 recs

hey man...

not happening yet.

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by spotstarters on Jul 3, 2008 11:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I know

It’s so sad. Silva is really not very good.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 11:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They really should be working this guy like a speed bag. It’s bound to happen eventually (I keep telling myself).

by Grant E. on Jul 3, 2008 11:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

*sigh*

where has all the good pitching gone?

by wepri31 on Jul 3, 2008 11:16 PM EDT   0 recs

come on justin

strike this chump out

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 11:21 PM EDT   0 recs

now

would be a great time to score a run or twelve

by wepri31 on Jul 3, 2008 11:25 PM EDT   0 recs

You may get your wish.

by Grant E. on Jul 3, 2008 11:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

or 13

by busta on Jul 3, 2008 11:27 PM EDT   0 recs

great slide…

by busta on Jul 3, 2008 11:33 PM EDT   0 recs

for good mojo

oh miggy you’re so fine, you’re so fine you blow my mind!

by wepri31 on Jul 3, 2008 11:34 PM EDT   0 recs

You can tell...

That Cabby is in some pain. He did not look good running.

by Grant E. on Jul 3, 2008 11:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Ode to Joyce

c’mon now…

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 11:37 PM EDT   0 recs

Woooo!

Carlos is a frickin pro!

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 3, 2008 11:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Ichiro

That guy is unreal. That was a perfect throw.

by Grant E. on Jul 3, 2008 11:38 PM EDT   0 recs

woooooooo

mudhens!

by wepri31 on Jul 3, 2008 11:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Nice timing by Mario.

“Holliman has 12 HRs this year at the AAA level.” Boom. HR.

by Grant E. on Jul 3, 2008 11:51 PM EDT   0 recs

haha….he totally crashed that wall

by wepri31 on Jul 4, 2008 12:07 AM EDT   0 recs

Helluva game for the Hens

by Grant E. on Jul 4, 2008 12:07 AM EDT   0 recs

Happy Independence Day everyone

just got back from some fireworks. good to see the Tigers have had some fireworks of their own tonight. Any pregame info on why Thames is out today?

by MSU4LIF on Jul 4, 2008 12:10 AM EDT   0 recs

I didn’t hear anything about Thames

by wepri31 on Jul 4, 2008 12:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lefties against Silva.

Lefty OF tonight (Cletus, Grandy and Joyce) and Hollimon (switch hitter) aginst Silva. Silva pitches to contact and lefties have hammered him this year and in his career.

by Grant E. on Jul 4, 2008 12:15 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thames and Rentaria will be back tomorrow against LHP Bedard.

by Grant E. on Jul 4, 2008 12:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lefties are hitting .330 against him this year

by Grant E. on Jul 4, 2008 12:21 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

so if we can hang on here

with the white sox losing and the twins not playing we could pick a game up on the sox and a half game on the Twins would truly feel like a 1 and a half game night!!

by PBURGTIGER on Jul 4, 2008 12:21 AM EDT   0 recs