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Game 107: Tigers (54-52) at Indians (46-59)

Ian_bedhead_tiny by Ian Casselberry on in News Comment 565 comments

Detroit Tigers at Cleveland Indians, Jul 30, 2008 7:05 PM EDT


Nate Robertson (6-8, 5.63) vs. Cliff Lee (14-2, 2.29)

The dance continues tonight in Cleveland, but at first glance, it looks like the Tigers are bringing their frumpy friend as a date, while the Tribe has the bombshell babe everyone else is looking at on its arm. 

Cliff Lee has the best record in the major leagues, tied with Brandon Webb at 14 wins.  His recipe for winning seems pretty simple: Don't give up any runs.  In Lee's 20 starts this season, he's only allowed four runs or more four times.  And each of those games was on the road.  Most recently, Lee has given up just two runs or fewer in eight of his last nine starts.  That streak began with a victory over the Tigers, by the way.

Compare that to Nate Robertson, who seems to routinely give up four runs or more.  However, he allowed only three runs to the White Sox in his last start.  Does that mean Robertson is due for a bad game, considering he usually can't string two good starts together?  Perhaps.  But he hasn't quite followed that good start/bad start pattern this season.  This will be the first time Robertson has faced the Indians this season.

Given that runs probably won't come easily, and a quality start from Robertson is a hit-or-miss proposition, Jim Leyland might try to create some offense by putting some more speed in the lineup.  Does that mean Ryan Raburn might play tonight, as John Lowe speculated today in the Freep?  We'll see.

UPDATE:  In case you haven't heard yet (and I think I was one of the last to catch this news), Pudge Rodriguez was dealt to the Yankees this afternoon for Kyle Farnsworth.

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Starting Lineups

DETROIT

1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Marcus Thames, LF
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Gary Sheffield, DH
7. Edgar Renteria, SS
8. Brandon Inge, C
9. Ryan Raburn, 3B

CLEVELAND

1. Grady Sizemore, CF
2. Franklin Gutierrez, LF
3. Ben Francisco, DH
4. Jhonny Peralta, SS
5. Shin-Soo Choo, RF
6. Kelly Shoppach, C
7. Andy Marte, 3B
8. Ryan Garko, 1B
9. Asdrubal Cabrera, 2B

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by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Crossthread to Pudge's trade

I’m disgusted by it. Pretty disgusted. But before forming a concrete opinion I’m gonna let it settle a bit and see if there’s some positives I’m not considering.

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by MackAveKurt on Jul 30, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I had to talk myself into a begrudging approval of the trade

On the plus side, Pudge was not coming back in ‘09, and the Tigers do need pitching.

On the negative, I just not sold on Farnsworth, and 2+ seasons of .220 hitting Inge as the catcher?

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by BigAl on Jul 30, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Marcus beginning his annual mid-summer swoon?

Visit The Daily Fungo.

by MikeMcClary on Jul 30, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I take a nap from 5pm-6:30pm

and I wake up to this? For the last 30 minutes I feel like I woke up in Bizzaro World.

If we weren’t go to sing Pudge next year…..then I understand trying to get something for him – but Farnsworth? Farnsworth just about told us to go f**k ourselves when we tried to sign him to be our closer a few years ago. How do you say goodbye to who is just about the heart and soul of our team? If we’re in the middle of a playoff hunt, why would you trade away a HOF catcher that nobody runs on? I hate Farnsworth…...I thought I was dreaming when I woke up…..this is an absolute nightmare. All we got was another right handed pitcher that throws in the 90’s. Don’t we have that already in Dolsi, Zumaya and Rodney? I’m sad and pissed. This sux!

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed. if anyone feels we need a nickname for dombrowski, i think the bes tone so far is Dumbasski, seems to fit especially after this deal.

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My big question about Pudge

Was he hitting better because Leyland was giving him so much rest? If so, and the Yankees play him every day, this trade might look pretty good in a couple of weks.

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by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

After the initial feeling (getting a text from a friend, who happens to be a Yankee fan) of being PISSED off, I have to believe that they are trying to deal for another young catcher (enter Texas). DD is a pretty bright guy, but if this stands (and this aggression will not stand, the dude minds!) without another move, I will be pissed off for a lot longer.

by Zappatista on Jul 30, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dislike Nate Robertson.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So asking this after the home run is perhaps particularly apropos, but wasn’t Verlander supposed to start this game? Didn’t I hear some hype about the Cliff Lee – Justin Verlander matchup?

Did JV get pushed back?

by tplants on Jul 30, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

checked the schedule

I was thinking of tomorrow’s Verlander – Fausto Carmona matchup.

by tplants on Jul 30, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't be surprised

if we lost 20-0 tonight. I know their professionals, but I would think they would be a bit deflated tonight.

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dombrowski said Farns might not be in Cleveland by tomorrow

WTF? The bullpen will probably get worked with Nate pitching tonight. And then a matinee tomorrow.

Somebody put Farnsworth in a car and on a plane, and get his ass to Cleveland by noon.

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by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously...

I don’t see why there would be a hold up. That’s Farnsworth for you. Crazy bastard.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DD is going to talk to Mario and Rod in a few innings

This should be interesting on how they spin this.

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering the same thing

Usually, guys head right away to their new team. He “might” be here tomorrow? Sounds like he’s not in any hurry to come to Detroit.

My God, we look awful tonight. The worst I’ve seen them play. They gotta feel deflated.

by densogirl on Jul 30, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah really

Why dont’ they send the team plane to pick him up with the money they’re saving in the trade. not like the tigers need it tonight!

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by MackAveKurt on Jul 30, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leyland says that this is a great opportunity for Pudge

Does the mean the management doesn’t think that Pudge staying here to try to get to the playoffs would be a great opportunity? WTF

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would not be surprised...

if the Tigers got no-hit tonight. Doesn’t that just seem like something that would happen.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

most likely another 8 run outing against nate the not so great

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How long do we own Farnsworth?

Does Farnsworth’s contract go past this year? If we have him longer than just this season, I’ll feel less disgusted with the giveaway of Pudge.
Here’s my thinking: even if we didn’t sign Pudge to a huge deal, we would have still gotten a couple of compensatory draft picks for him, and that would be more valuable than half a season of Kyle Farnsworth.

by WildElliot on Jul 30, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's in his walk year, just like Pudge

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jul 30, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so this could have been just a salary dump

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

on the bright side

two episodes of corner gas are on at 8!

Mack Avenue Tigers

by MackAveKurt on Jul 30, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

didnt figure they would cash in the season so soon after the trade. at least show some fight

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the bats have done so well so far. leyland need to get his hands outta his pants and go grab the hook

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't the Yankees taken Robertson as a throw-in?

Or would it have been a deal killer?

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by BigAl on Jul 30, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Screw this...

I’m out of town til Monday and I’m starting my vacation early. No more Tigers until Monday. Good luck everyone.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's 5-0 and.....

just now the pitching coach is coming out? WTF

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow.

I feel like my heart and stomach have been pulled out. If this keeps up, I’ll be down to my spleen by the 4th inning.
I’m going to give my liver a workout before that goes, too.

by WildElliot on Jul 30, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Helps to check the DVR

I didn’t realize I had it rewound to see the Dombrowski and Leyland interviews. I couldn’t figure out why everyone was so upset about a 1-0 game.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The beauty of living out West

is that I can turn off the Tigers game now and still have my entire evening.

Visit The Daily Fungo.

by MikeMcClary on Jul 30, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

interesting

baseball prospectus: Multiple baseball sources say the Red Sox are on the verge of sending disgrunted left fielder Manny Ramirez to the Marlins …. “

Mack Avenue Tigers

by MackAveKurt on Jul 30, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I live in Boston and have plenty of Sox love, but this deal makes no sensse. Manny is a terrific, terrific player who basically acts like a teenager every couple of months. I could deal with that, you know.

by tplants on Jul 30, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess it's evil Nate on the mound tonight

hope the Tigers brought Tuesday night bats, as opposed to the toothpicks from Monday….

by ahtrap on Jul 30, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bizarro World

Renteria gets a double and no Pudge

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

didn’t he get a double last night, too?

Maybe just talking about sending him to the National League is good enough to get renteria going

by ahtrap on Jul 30, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever DD

he says he wanted a player that would help us out this year in regards to Farnsworth….......gee, defensively isn’t that Pudge?

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven't been so mad since the Tigers traded away Jeff Weaver

I know…sounds silly now to say that about Weaver, but at the time I was very fond of him.

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At the time...

I hated that Weaver trade, too. I remember sitting in Charleston, SC, thinking the Tigers had given up on winning.

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by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think ive lost all faith in DD

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not all faith

but he’s certainly on shakier ground with me.

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by MackAveKurt on Jul 30, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I woudn't go that far

He’s no Randy Smit after all.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some Pudge locker room shenanigans we’ll never be privy to helping to grease the skids of a trade.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jul 30, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Lord, what kind of play was that?

A Grandy misplay and an AWFUL relay. The Tigers look totally out of snyc tonight.

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by BigAl on Jul 30, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nate

at this point, OMR may as well just let him throw his 100 pitches, regardless of the score. It may only take him 4 innings anyways.

by Zappatista on Jul 30, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wanna bet tomorrow nate gets labeled as having a “tired arm” yet again this year

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I might just play some video games

Rather than watch the rest of this debacle

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah but nates a former marlin and you know the faith OMR has in those old marlins

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Take me to your leader.....

I can’t believe the team would respond so poorly to the trading of their leader. ::rolls eyes::

I traveled to the game in Cleveland on Monday and didn’t think it could get worse. Oops.

by ViolaHalo on Jul 30, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, Mario

It’s not like Cabrera’s homer cut the lead to one.

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by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i wish we had fsn HD here in muskegon but comcast wont carry it

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate comcast with a passion.. that really sucks

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live in Grand Rapids

I had Comcast and they carried FSNHD, although I hated Comcast sooooo much. I finally changed to AT&T Advanced TV when they came to my area. I don’t have FSN HD anymore, but I don’t care just as long as I’m not signing a check anymore to Comcast.

If you have AT&T TV available in you area, I highly recommend you check it out. Best tv decision I’ve ever made in regards to getting more bang for my buck.

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we cant here in muskegon. comcast has a contract with the city to be the only provider

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in Metro Detroit

And I have WideOpenWest.. I considered switching to AT&T but didnt based mostly that they don’t have FSNHD

As soon as they carry it I’ll probably switch

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tried to get dish but too many trees, so im stuck

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pudge wasn't a happy camper

...according to Buster Olney, anyway. Video here: http://www.dailyfungo.com/

Visit The Daily Fungo.

by MikeMcClary on Jul 30, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I shoulda said

Pudge wasn’t happy in Detroit anymore and that’s why he was open to the deal.

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by MikeMcClary on Jul 30, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pud

Buster keeps calling him “Pud” Rodriguez. Funny.

by ViolaHalo on Jul 30, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lopez

Could be sent down once Farnsworth arrives so he should pitch really good so they have to think about sending him down

by ashmark on Jul 30, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lopez? i was kinda hoping for the outright release of jonesy

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope not. Lopez fills more of a need than Todd Jones

If Jones wasn’t already a man without a role, the Farnsworth trade clinched it.

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by BigAl on Jul 30, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ladies and Gentleman

Your new full-time catcher!

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Inge LOVES catching!

Maybe he’ll be able to “hit” while catching, too.

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by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BIG BOI INGE

He is really hitting the ball this week, lets hope he keeps it up.

by Zappatista on Jul 30, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Grandigity

Hitting lefties (one of the best this season) like he’s been doing it forever!

by Zappatista on Jul 30, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

funny i can remember jimmy sayin that he couldnt hit off leftys

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hay guyz

We’re right back in this thing

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hopefully we can keep it going after we get into their bullpen

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could not get the Olney thing to run...

why was Pudge unhappy in Detroit? Catching platoon?

by rook34 on Jul 30, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Olney didn't come out and say why

All he said was there was a lot of tension between Pudge and the team, it had been going on for quite some time and he had told the Tigers more than a month ago he would be open to a trade.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Jul 30, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm.

I know there are rational reasons for the whole thing, but for some reason, it really bums me out to see him go. He was the first to come to Detroit and make people take the place seriously after all the horrible years. Compared to the years before Pudge got here, this season is an undefeated one.

by rook34 on Jul 30, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shouldn't say this

but I hope they get to the bullpen soon, as C-Lee is on my fantasy team, and yes I started him tonight. Contemplated leaving him on the bench, but he has been too good. Now, just get him out so we can keep scoring, and I don’t get killed!

by Zappatista on Jul 30, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

big hit for gary...

but what the fuck was he doing going to second?

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you back?

Get the old man outta the line up!

by Zappatista on Jul 30, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so much for the early vacation huh hahahaha

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i accidentally turned the tv back on

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good timing

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

something tells me lopez just...

might give up a run or two if he stays in much longer.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow clutch pitching!

by HavocRox on Jul 30, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well done.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got him!

Rally ended. Lopez FTW

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A-LO

He’s starting to look like Shef, with that facial hair. Minus the roids of course.

And, way to pitch out a jam.

by Zappatista on Jul 30, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What a difference an hour makes

Turned the game off disgusted after the 3rd inning on the ride home,
The addict in me makes me check back in
now I’m cautiously optimistic

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Greetings all

Got out of my second time seeing the Dark Knight and saw that the Tigers were down 7-1, didn’t think I’d be tuning in. However, now that it’s gotten close, I can’t resist.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the tigers are like crack. really good crack.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Matt

I enjoyed ‘TDK’ even more the second time. How about you?

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by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

definitely

You pick up on more things the second time around, when your jaw isn’t on the floor.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To me, this makes Nate's ineptness more revolting

On a night when they get six runs off Cliff Lee, and knock him out of the game in five innings, they’re still facing a deficit.

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by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

amen.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn enter key.

I don’t think we can keep running him out there if we want to stay in this damn “race”

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can't believe Pudge is gone

He was a Tiger for 4 1/2+ years. He’s not really that big a loss to the offense, but if they were going to ship him out, I would’ve rather had someone besides Kyle freaking Farnsworth. Not crazy about the deal, but in retrospect, it makes perfect sense to trade someone who you could replace in-house who wasn’t a prospect in order to bolster the bullpen. Woulda rather they’d gotten someone from the Marlins’ bullpen instead though…

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

here's what Farnsworth brings to the table

or should I say body slams through…

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you...

the trade looks less frustrating than when I first heard it. Given the way the Marlins are going after Manny Ramirez, maybe they wouldn’t give up prospects. Also, since pudge could veto any trade maybe he didn’t want to head back to FLA? I don’t know. I think this could have been worse.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure how...

..Farnsworth wasn’t worth crap the first time he was here.

by ViolaHalo on Jul 30, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather they deal Pudge for a bullpen guy

than someone like Clete, or Joyce, or Larish

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I just have bad memories of those days, maybe it’ll be better this time.

by ViolaHalo on Jul 30, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2.32 ERA

better than a K per inning. I think he did okay.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back the Olney thing...

Not sure I buy much of what Buster is selling. The guy is a longtime Yankee apologist and is practically their beat writer for ESPN. I wonder when he was last actually in Detroit.

by rook34 on Jul 30, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he may not have been in detroit...

but you can’t deny the guy probably has an many connections as any reporter in all of baseball.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually I do deny that.

I believe Gammons, Rosenthal, and probably a couple of others have better sources. Yankee sources, Olney is clearly the best.

by rook34 on Jul 30, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, it is a bit of a cheap shot to go after Olney...

but I have a long standing grudge against Yankee fans masquerading as media members. Olbermann was even worse.

by rook34 on Jul 30, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hear ya man...

however, olney isn’t as big of a homer as even gammons. gammons is clearly still a sox guy.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whatever man...

i’ll leave it at that. i don’t know any of them personally but i just don’t see olney as being that bad.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet that Gammons has more, but that's just because he's 70 years old...

Olney and Rosenthal are the same person.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's face it...

we love pudge because of what he meant to this team. looking strictly at stats and age, the wasn’t much of a loss. i like pudge as much as the next guy but he’ll be 37 soon and the tigers need pitching help now.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed, BUT I wonder how much Pudge’s ability and experience calling games has helped the pitching. That will be interesting to see the rest of the way.

by Zappatista on Jul 30, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it probably did help the pitching...

but the pitching has still been below league average. i just don’t think his loss will make that much of a difference.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is another good discussion point.

Was Pudge getting more out of the pitching than Inge will be able to? Or was Pudge sub-par at calling games? It’ll be interesting to see…..

by ViolaHalo on Jul 30, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woot!

Thank you infield errors!

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just got into the action

Glad to see we chased c-lee early

by gf206 on Jul 30, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

the Indians are imploding. Good to see.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeeee ha – bases juiced w/out a single hit

by gf206 on Jul 30, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is...

some awful baseball.

by rook34 on Jul 30, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn you marcus.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what a shame.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Poop.

Or something. Still, it’s within one!

by ViolaHalo on Jul 30, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I WANT

jarrod saltamacchia. and inge back in the field

by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

close

“Saltalamacchia”

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

by the way

anyone else realize Salty has a cougar wife? She’s 14 years older than him, and was a gym teacher at his high school while he was attending…

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gym teacher, eh?

guess the stereotype isn’t true

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

where the hell did you pick that scoop up at?

by Zappatista on Jul 30, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't even remember

I have him in an AL keeper league though, so maybe while researching his stats

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade?

Anyone know when Farnsworth is going to be joining the team? Tomorrow?

by gf206 on Jul 30, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit again

Now leaving them loaded with 1 out is even bigger of a disappointment

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ROLLERCOASTER!!!

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I actually thought

with the acquisition of Farnsworth, there was a good chance the Tigers were going to cut Jonesy loose.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure I have a ride on the the TJE in me tonight. I need to get some booze.

by Jerkwheat on Jul 30, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this game has been pretty strange.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

i thought it was over. i can’t believe c-lee got chased

by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JONESY

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just perfect.

cut the fucker loose! it’s time.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wanted to see him retire a tiger

but maybe he’ll have to accept a job in food services to do so

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by MackAveKurt on Jul 30, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I second that emotion

They could this kind of production from a pitching machine.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geez

When the count went to 3-2, you just knew a HR was coming.

ugh!

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jonesy has to be released

Like Matt, I thought that when Farnsworth was acquired. But this is a fantastic example of why he’s terrible in set-up or mop-up duty.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree

He’s useless as a middle or set up guy. He has to close, or leave. Period.

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by BigAl on Jul 30, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate to say it...

But Farnsworth cam’t get here soon enough.

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by BigAl on Jul 30, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One word...

and that word is Unemployable. Good night!

by rook34 on Jul 30, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I really am leaving now...

so long.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Does DD

know what DFA stands for?

by rook34 on Jul 30, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure he does

he’s not sentimental. Anyone remember Craig Monroe?

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its sad to see this

implosion. thanks tidd for the past but your dead to me.

by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep....

....Inge catches a hell of a game, no?

by ViolaHalo on Jul 30, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least Farnsy would have planted Shoppach for that bat toss…

by Jerkwheat on Jul 30, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ARGH.

MLB.TV will not load.

And I saw the rollercoaster picture when skipping my way to the bottom of the game thread.

This is not good.

by Juskimo on Jul 30, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In all seriousness

The Tigers are going to have to make a roster move to add another catcher (Dane, presumably). With the addition of a bullpen arm, one would think that means someone in the pen gets sent out. Is there ANY reason to think Jones isn’t going to be cut loose in the next couple days? They were obviously worried enough about their bullpen to trade Pudge, how do they get rid of anyone but Jonesy?

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I read somewhere that either Lopez or Dolsi will get sent down once Farnworth arrives.

by ashmark on Jul 30, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah that's real smart

Not that they’re doing fabulous, but if the Tigers send one of them out and keep Jones, they just don’t want to win.

Of course the DH bats the mendoza line, today notwithstanding.

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by MackAveKurt on Jul 30, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I believe you laid out the right scenario – barring any other significant trades. Bring DS up, sent Jones out.

by gf206 on Jul 30, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's confirmed, Sardinha is the catcher coming up

And I have to say if this is Jones’ audition to stay with the Tigers as a middle reliever, he’s failing it.

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by BigAl on Jul 30, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can't you just picture...

Leyland/Dombrowski having the closed door meeting with Todd tomorrow?

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mud Hens

It’s getting to where I’d rather watch THEM play.

by pfuhrmeister on Jul 30, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

to be fair to the Tigers

they got an atrocious start by Robertson and terrible work out of Jonesy, and their STILL kind of in this game.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

then he goes out and does that

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I keep thinking

It can’t get any worse. But somehow, it always does.

by pfuhrmeister on Jul 30, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey now....

that worked!

:-P

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This feels like a "shit or get off the pot" game

Either they want to win this, or they don’t. This is torturous.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

It’s crunch time right now.

by pfuhrmeister on Jul 30, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but now

We got the Rally Killer coming up.

by pfuhrmeister on Jul 30, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As Jack Buck would say

I CAN’T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST SAW!!!!!!

(oh so close to a HR)

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad I didn't give up on this game...

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by BigAl on Jul 30, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

worth every penny

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's go Shef!!!

I really want Shef to give me a reason to like him, I really do!

by gf206 on Jul 30, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love that fat son of a gun

by Jerkwheat on Jul 30, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pudge's Tigers Memories

“I remember when I deserted my teammates and went to Colombia for a vacation. Man, I fucked Tram over. That made me giggle.”

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PTM Part 2

I remember when I showed up to Spring Training weighing 30 pounds less because I “ate fish” all offseason.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and what about

that time I only walked 9 times for an entire season!

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 30, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This would be a great open thread

Pudge’s Tigers Memories, Part 3

“I was mad when they traded Ugie. I didn’t want to kiss Percival, you know? Scruffy cheeks.”

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the Tigers should have traded

Pudge to the Yankees if they accepted Sheff.

Nothing in return would be fine.

Mack Avenue Tigers

by MackAveKurt on Jul 30, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would have liked that

Then Joyce and Thames would play everyday.

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mlb.tv is too far behind – y’all ruin my disappointment half the time!

by Jerkwheat on Jul 30, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's better that way

Kinda like ripping off a bandage really fast

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

162 games is way too long a time to have that bandage being pulled.

by pfuhrmeister on Jul 30, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB.TV back up.

WHat is going on?

by Juskimo on Jul 30, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Geez

After this season, I kind of expect the free press to run a story on the rise in alcoholism any day now

by Oost on Jul 30, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

which reminds me, I need a beer

by Jerkwheat on Jul 30, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay

What’s worse…..

1) The drums
2) The pan man
3) The whistler

My vote goes to those damn drums.

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I say pan man

Something about that noise felt like a pin going into my temple.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My vote is the drums

2) the pan man his real name is freddy sez. hes this old guy and hes like homeless but hes so cool. look him up on wikipedia. no doubt annoying on tv, but i wish the tigers had someone like him

by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats true

but this guy is like a new york mascot. he goes to knicks games, giants, st. john’s. its pretty crazy. i think he only has one eye too.

by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fedy was born in 1925

At 83 he must be deaf to not be able to hear how annoying those pans are

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Edgar...

Make him thrown at least 2 pitches..

by rook34 on Jul 30, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

CARLOS!

GOGOGOGOGO!

by Juskimo on Jul 30, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice AB Brandon

a walk from the catcher??? I could get used to this

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh my goodness

If Marcus goes yard here, my head might explode.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

only his 9th AB

he’ll go yard his next one

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd bet money on it

if he plays tomorrow, he’s getting a homer

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay.......

does rodney pitch two nights in a row?

did anyone see who was warming up?

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't stay away...

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Kelly Shoppach

gets one more damn hit I am driving to Cleveland and breaking his kneecaps

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Give him the “Kerrigan”, I will help….nevermind.

by Zappatista on Jul 30, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay

if Rodney saves this let him close the rest of the season

and if n…..well you know

Farnsworth becomes our closer

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i sure do.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon

give Rodney some love!!!!

think love everyone!

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good god.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll drive to the cleve...

who’s coming with me? we’ll need some metal pipes.

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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Christ Almighty

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by BigAl on Jul 30, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You've gotta be fucking kidding me.

Tell me Kyle Farnsworth isn’t the Tigers closer by Saturday.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Saturday?

if he’s in uniform, he’s closing tomorrow

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone notice

FSN just can’t get the home runs right? Choo’s name came up a second time.

Mack Avenue Tigers

by MackAveKurt on Jul 30, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clearly

The Yankees should’ve traded for Kelly Shoppach.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is absurd.

Kelly Shoppach? Fuck that.

by ViolaHalo on Jul 30, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just remember..

we still get to hit against the Indians bullpen in the 10th

by Boney on Jul 30, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but

they get to hit the Tigers in the bottom

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yo

Jonesy is still waiting down there for his call

by Boney on Jul 30, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oops

sorry… forgot Jones is our 4th and 5th inning reliever now..

nice to see him hold up his end of the bargain by giving up a run in his only inning though

he’s consistent!

by Boney on Jul 30, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kelly Shoppach hasn't hit like this

since he was a top prospect of the Red Sox… in single a

by Boney on Jul 30, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's not a closer!

Why, why do we have to put up with this?

by densogirl on Jul 30, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought someone in here said

first to 12 gets the win…..?

by MSU4LIF on Jul 30, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs