Game 107: Tigers (54-52) at Indians (46-59)
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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PrintDetroit Tigers at Cleveland Indians, Jul 30, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
Nate Robertson (6-8, 5.63) vs. 
Cliff Lee (14-2, 2.29)
The dance continues tonight in Cleveland, but at first glance, it looks like the Tigers are bringing their frumpy friend as a date, while the Tribe has the bombshell babe everyone else is looking at on its arm.
Cliff Lee has the best record in the major leagues, tied with Brandon Webb at 14 wins. His recipe for winning seems pretty simple: Don't give up any runs. In Lee's 20 starts this season, he's only allowed four runs or more four times. And each of those games was on the road. Most recently, Lee has given up just two runs or fewer in eight of his last nine starts. That streak began with a victory over the Tigers, by the way.
Compare that to Nate Robertson, who seems to routinely give up four runs or more. However, he allowed only three runs to the White Sox in his last start. Does that mean Robertson is due for a bad game, considering he usually can't string two good starts together? Perhaps. But he hasn't quite followed that good start/bad start pattern this season. This will be the first time Robertson has faced the Indians this season.
Given that runs probably won't come easily, and a quality start from Robertson is a hit-or-miss proposition, Jim Leyland might try to create some offense by putting some more speed in the lineup. Does that mean Ryan Raburn might play tonight, as John Lowe speculated today in the Freep? We'll see.
UPDATE: In case you haven't heard yet (and I think I was one of the last to catch this news), Pudge Rodriguez was dealt to the Yankees this afternoon for Kyle Farnsworth.
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Starting Lineups
DETROIT
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Marcus Thames, LF
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Gary Sheffield, DH
7. Edgar Renteria, SS
8. Brandon Inge, C
9. Ryan Raburn, 3B
CLEVELAND
1. Grady Sizemore, CF
2. Franklin Gutierrez, LF
3. Ben Francisco, DH
4. Jhonny Peralta, SS
5. Shin-Soo Choo, RF
6. Kelly Shoppach, C
7. Andy Marte, 3B
8. Ryan Garko, 1B
9. Asdrubal Cabrera, 2B
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
Crossthread to Pudge's trade
I’m disgusted by it. Pretty disgusted. But before forming a concrete opinion I’m gonna let it settle a bit and see if there’s some positives I’m not considering.
I had to talk myself into a begrudging approval of the trade
On the plus side, Pudge was not coming back in ‘09, and the Tigers do need pitching.
On the negative, I just not sold on Farnsworth, and 2+ seasons of .220 hitting Inge as the catcher?
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I take a nap from 5pm-6:30pm
and I wake up to this? For the last 30 minutes I feel like I woke up in Bizzaro World.
If we weren’t go to sing Pudge next year…..then I understand trying to get something for him – but Farnsworth? Farnsworth just about told us to go f**k ourselves when we tried to sign him to be our closer a few years ago. How do you say goodbye to who is just about the heart and soul of our team? If we’re in the middle of a playoff hunt, why would you trade away a HOF catcher that nobody runs on? I hate Farnsworth…...I thought I was dreaming when I woke up…..this is an absolute nightmare. All we got was another right handed pitcher that throws in the 90’s. Don’t we have that already in Dolsi, Zumaya and Rodney? I’m sad and pissed. This sux!
My big question about Pudge
Was he hitting better because Leyland was giving him so much rest? If so, and the Yankees play him every day, this trade might look pretty good in a couple of weks.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions
After the initial feeling (getting a text from a friend, who happens to be a Yankee fan) of being PISSED off, I have to believe that they are trying to deal for another young catcher (enter Texas). DD is a pretty bright guy, but if this stands (and this aggression will not stand, the dude minds!) without another move, I will be pissed off for a lot longer.
So asking this after the home run is perhaps particularly apropos, but wasn’t Verlander supposed to start this game? Didn’t I hear some hype about the Cliff Lee – Justin Verlander matchup?
Did JV get pushed back?
he pitched saturday
schedule is intact
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 30, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised
if we lost 20-0 tonight. I know their professionals, but I would think they would be a bit deflated tonight.
Dombrowski said Farns might not be in Cleveland by tomorrow
WTF? The bullpen will probably get worked with Nate pitching tonight. And then a matinee tomorrow.
Somebody put Farnsworth in a car and on a plane, and get his ass to Cleveland by noon.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously...
I don’t see why there would be a hold up. That’s Farnsworth for you. Crazy bastard.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
DD is going to talk to Mario and Rod in a few innings
This should be interesting on how they spin this.
I was wondering the same thing
Usually, guys head right away to their new team. He “might” be here tomorrow? Sounds like he’s not in any hurry to come to Detroit.
My God, we look awful tonight. The worst I’ve seen them play. They gotta feel deflated.
yeah really
Why dont’ they send the team plane to pick him up with the money they’re saving in the trade. not like the tigers need it tonight!
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 30, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Leyland says that this is a great opportunity for Pudge
Does the mean the management doesn’t think that Pudge staying here to try to get to the playoffs would be a great opportunity? WTF
I would not be surprised...
if the Tigers got no-hit tonight. Doesn’t that just seem like something that would happen.
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How long do we own Farnsworth?
Does Farnsworth’s contract go past this year? If we have him longer than just this season, I’ll feel less disgusted with the giveaway of Pudge.
Here’s my thinking: even if we didn’t sign Pudge to a huge deal, we would have still gotten a couple of compensatory draft picks for him, and that would be more valuable than half a season of Kyle Farnsworth.
Farns could possibly be a Type A free agent, too
That could lessen the draft pick concern.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
what are you talking about
this is nate robertson’s fight!
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 30, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Couldn't the Yankees taken Robertson as a throw-in?
Or would it have been a deal killer?
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Screw this...
I’m out of town til Monday and I’m starting my vacation early. No more Tigers until Monday. Good luck everyone.
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wow.
I feel like my heart and stomach have been pulled out. If this keeps up, I’ll be down to my spleen by the 4th inning.
I’m going to give my liver a workout before that goes, too.
Helps to check the DVR
I didn’t realize I had it rewound to see the Dombrowski and Leyland interviews. I couldn’t figure out why everyone was so upset about a 1-0 game.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions
The beauty of living out West
is that I can turn off the Tigers game now and still have my entire evening.
Visit The Daily Fungo.
interesting
baseball prospectus: Multiple baseball sources say the Red Sox are on the verge of sending disgrunted left fielder Manny Ramirez to the Marlins …. “
Is Manny in the last year of his deal?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I live in Boston and have plenty of Sox love, but this deal makes no sensse. Manny is a terrific, terrific player who basically acts like a teenager every couple of months. I could deal with that, you know.
Guess it's evil Nate on the mound tonight
hope the Tigers brought Tuesday night bats, as opposed to the toothpicks from Monday….
Whatever DD
he says he wanted a player that would help us out this year in regards to Farnsworth….......gee, defensively isn’t that Pudge?
According to Pete Abraham
Cashman said he wasn’t even looking for catching until DD called him.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/30/cashman-talks-about-the-trade/
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions
I haven't been so mad since the Tigers traded away Jeff Weaver
I know…sounds silly now to say that about Weaver, but at the time I was very fond of him.
At the time...
I hated that Weaver trade, too. I remember sitting in Charleston, SC, thinking the Tigers had given up on winning.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
not all faith
but he’s certainly on shakier ground with me.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 30, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I woudn't go that far
He’s no Randy Smit after all.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some Pudge locker room shenanigans we’ll never be privy to helping to grease the skids of a trade.
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Good Lord, what kind of play was that?
A Grandy misplay and an AWFUL relay. The Tigers look totally out of snyc tonight.
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Thames' relay throw
That looked Jacque Jones’-esque.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Nate
at this point, OMR may as well just let him throw his 100 pitches, regardless of the score. It may only take him 4 innings anyways.
I don't want to speak in "HYPERBOWL"
but this is rough. and this may be it.
by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions
Take me to your leader.....
I can’t believe the team would respond so poorly to the trading of their leader. ::rolls eyes::
I traveled to the game in Cleveland on Monday and didn’t think it could get worse. Oops.
Okay, Mario
It’s not like Cabrera’s homer cut the lead to one.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions
I hate comcast with a passion.. that really sucks
by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I live in Grand Rapids
I had Comcast and they carried FSNHD, although I hated Comcast sooooo much. I finally changed to AT&T Advanced TV when they came to my area. I don’t have FSN HD anymore, but I don’t care just as long as I’m not signing a check anymore to Comcast.
If you have AT&T TV available in you area, I highly recommend you check it out. Best tv decision I’ve ever made in regards to getting more bang for my buck.
I'm in Metro Detroit
And I have WideOpenWest.. I considered switching to AT&T but didnt based mostly that they don’t have FSNHD
As soon as they carry it I’ll probably switch
by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Pudge wasn't a happy camper
...according to Buster Olney, anyway. Video here: http://www.dailyfungo.com/
Visit The Daily Fungo.
I shoulda said
Pudge wasn’t happy in Detroit anymore and that’s why he was open to the deal.
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Lopez
Could be sent down once Farnsworth arrives so he should pitch really good so they have to think about sending him down
I hope not. Lopez fills more of a need than Todd Jones
If Jones wasn’t already a man without a role, the Farnsworth trade clinched it.
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Inge LOVES catching!
Maybe he’ll be able to “hit” while catching, too.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions
Olney didn't come out and say why
All he said was there was a lot of tension between Pudge and the team, it had been going on for quite some time and he had told the Tigers more than a month ago he would be open to a trade.
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Hmmm.
I know there are rational reasons for the whole thing, but for some reason, it really bums me out to see him go. He was the first to come to Detroit and make people take the place seriously after all the horrible years. Compared to the years before Pudge got here, this season is an undefeated one.
Shouldn't say this
but I hope they get to the bullpen soon, as C-Lee is on my fantasy team, and yes I started him tonight. Contemplated leaving him on the bench, but he has been too good. Now, just get him out so we can keep scoring, and I don’t get killed!
big hit for gary...
but what the fuck was he doing going to second?
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i accidentally turned the tv back on
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
something tells me lopez just...
might give up a run or two if he stays in much longer.
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well done.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
A-LO
He’s starting to look like Shef, with that facial hair. Minus the roids of course.
And, way to pitch out a jam.
What a difference an hour makes
Turned the game off disgusted after the 3rd inning on the ride home,
The addict in me makes me check back in
now I’m cautiously optimistic
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Greetings all
Got out of my second time seeing the Dark Knight and saw that the Tigers were down 7-1, didn’t think I’d be tuning in. However, now that it’s gotten close, I can’t resist.
the tigers are like crack. really good crack.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Matt
I enjoyed ‘TDK’ even more the second time. How about you?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
To me, this makes Nate's ineptness more revolting
On a night when they get six runs off Cliff Lee, and knock him out of the game in five innings, they’re still facing a deficit.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
amen.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn enter key.
I don’t think we can keep running him out there if we want to stay in this damn “race”
Can't believe Pudge is gone
He was a Tiger for 4 1/2+ years. He’s not really that big a loss to the offense, but if they were going to ship him out, I would’ve rather had someone besides Kyle freaking Farnsworth. Not crazy about the deal, but in retrospect, it makes perfect sense to trade someone who you could replace in-house who wasn’t a prospect in order to bolster the bullpen. Woulda rather they’d gotten someone from the Marlins’ bullpen instead though…
here's what Farnsworth brings to the table
or should I say body slams through…
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
I'm with you...
the trade looks less frustrating than when I first heard it. Given the way the Marlins are going after Manny Ramirez, maybe they wouldn’t give up prospects. Also, since pudge could veto any trade maybe he didn’t want to head back to FLA? I don’t know. I think this could have been worse.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
2.32 ERA
better than a K per inning. I think he did okay.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Back the Olney thing...
Not sure I buy much of what Buster is selling. The guy is a longtime Yankee apologist and is practically their beat writer for ESPN. I wonder when he was last actually in Detroit.
he may not have been in detroit...
but you can’t deny the guy probably has an many connections as any reporter in all of baseball.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I do deny that.
I believe Gammons, Rosenthal, and probably a couple of others have better sources. Yankee sources, Olney is clearly the best.
I know, it is a bit of a cheap shot to go after Olney...
but I have a long standing grudge against Yankee fans masquerading as media members. Olbermann was even worse.
i hear ya man...
however, olney isn’t as big of a homer as even gammons. gammons is clearly still a sox guy.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
whatever man...
i’ll leave it at that. i don’t know any of them personally but i just don’t see olney as being that bad.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet that Gammons has more, but that's just because he's 70 years old...
Olney and Rosenthal are the same person.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's face it...
we love pudge because of what he meant to this team. looking strictly at stats and age, the wasn’t much of a loss. i like pudge as much as the next guy but he’ll be 37 soon and the tigers need pitching help now.
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agreed, BUT I wonder how much Pudge’s ability and experience calling games has helped the pitching. That will be interesting to see the rest of the way.
it probably did help the pitching...
but the pitching has still been below league average. i just don’t think his loss will make that much of a difference.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
This is another good discussion point.
Was Pudge getting more out of the pitching than Inge will be able to? Or was Pudge sub-par at calling games? It’ll be interesting to see…..
Just got into the action
Glad to see we chased c-lee early
Wow...
the Indians are imploding. Good to see.
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I WANT
jarrod saltamacchia. and inge back in the field
by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions
by the way
anyone else realize Salty has a cougar wife? She’s 14 years older than him, and was a gym teacher at his high school while he was attending…
Trade?
Anyone know when Farnsworth is going to be joining the team? Tomorrow?
I actually thought
with the acquisition of Farnsworth, there was a good chance the Tigers were going to cut Jonesy loose.
this game has been pretty strange.
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yeah
i thought it was over. i can’t believe c-lee got chased
by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
just perfect.
cut the fucker loose! it’s time.
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I wanted to see him retire a tiger
but maybe he’ll have to accept a job in food services to do so
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 30, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Jonesy has to be released
Like Matt, I thought that when Farnsworth was acquired. But this is a fantastic example of why he’s terrible in set-up or mop-up duty.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
Totally agree
He’s useless as a middle or set up guy. He has to close, or leave. Period.
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I really am leaving now...
so long.
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its sad to see this
implosion. thanks tidd for the past but your dead to me.
by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions
gotta love the alternate meanings for DFA
by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions
ARGH.
MLB.TV will not load.
And I saw the rollercoaster picture when skipping my way to the bottom of the game thread.
This is not good.
In all seriousness
The Tigers are going to have to make a roster move to add another catcher (Dane, presumably). With the addition of a bullpen arm, one would think that means someone in the pen gets sent out. Is there ANY reason to think Jones isn’t going to be cut loose in the next couple days? They were obviously worried enough about their bullpen to trade Pudge, how do they get rid of anyone but Jonesy?
yeah that's real smart
Not that they’re doing fabulous, but if the Tigers send one of them out and keep Jones, they just don’t want to win.
Of course the DH bats the mendoza line, today notwithstanding.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 30, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It's confirmed, Sardinha is the catcher coming up
And I have to say if this is Jones’ audition to stay with the Tigers as a middle reliever, he’s failing it.
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to be fair to the Tigers
they got an atrocious start by Robertson and terrible work out of Jonesy, and their STILL kind of in this game.
This feels like a "shit or get off the pot" game
Either they want to win this, or they don’t. This is torturous.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Let's go Shef!!!
I really want Shef to give me a reason to like him, I really do!
Pudge's Tigers Memories
“I remember when I deserted my teammates and went to Colombia for a vacation. Man, I fucked Tram over. That made me giggle.”
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
PTM Part 2
I remember when I showed up to Spring Training weighing 30 pounds less because I “ate fish” all offseason.
This would be a great open thread
Pudge’s Tigers Memories, Part 3
“I was mad when they traded Ugie. I didn’t want to kiss Percival, you know? Scruffy cheeks.”
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It's better that way
Kinda like ripping off a bandage really fast
by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
162 games is way too long a time to have that bandage being pulled.
by pfuhrmeister on Jul 30, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Geez
After this season, I kind of expect the free press to run a story on the rise in alcoholism any day now
I say pan man
Something about that noise felt like a pin going into my temple.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
My vote is the drums
2) the pan man his real name is freddy sez. hes this old guy and hes like homeless but hes so cool. look him up on wikipedia. no doubt annoying on tv, but i wish the tigers had someone like him
by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
They had/have the Eat 'Em Up Tigers homeless guy outside the park
by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
thats true
but this guy is like a new york mascot. he goes to knicks games, giants, st. john’s. its pretty crazy. i think he only has one eye too.
by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
nice AB Brandon
a walk from the catcher??? I could get used to this
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and I don't just say that
because of your nicely chosen nickname, Go Green
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 30, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
keep it to baseball
not all spartans here lol
by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
hey
we have to balance against Al and Ian somehow!
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 30, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my goodness
If Marcus goes yard here, my head might explode.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
If Kelly Shoppach
gets one more damn hit I am driving to Cleveland and breaking his kneecaps
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okay
if Rodney saves this let him close the rest of the season
and if n…..well you know
Farnsworth becomes our closer
i sure do.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
just don't walk anyone...please...
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I'll drive to the cleve...
who’s coming with me? we’ll need some metal pipes.
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You've gotta be fucking kidding me.
Tell me Kyle Farnsworth isn’t the Tigers closer by Saturday.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
anyone notice
FSN just can’t get the home runs right? Choo’s name came up a second time.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 30, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
Clearly
The Yankees should’ve traded for Kelly Shoppach.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
why do you ptich to him?t
thats on JL
by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 30, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
But we still have to pitch to them
in the bottom of the 10th
please tell me that one of you...
at least has shoppach on a fantasy team.
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bummer for you guys...
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
My kingdom for a closer who can actually close games!
Enough already. Stop the MADNESS!
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this is making the pudge trade loo a lot better isn't it?
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That was a great changeup
for the strikeout. BEFORE he gave up the tying homerun. Doh.
At this point...
I’m for sending Batman into Venezuela to airlift Ugueth Urbina out of prison.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
am I the only one worried
that F-Rod will throw it away while throwing to first??
This is as bad as the Rollercoaster...
Deep down I knew it would be though…
I think it is worse
Seems to be lasting longer!
walk in the run or wild pitch?
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If Seay comes in, it'll be a walked in winning run.
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According to baseball reference...
the last player with three doubles and two homers in the same game was Steve Garvey in 1977.
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Did anyone see 'Step Brothers'?
Not that I’d recommend it, but the ‘Sweet Child o’ Mine’ playing in the background reminded me of a sort of funny scene.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions
You would give it a thumbs down?
I like Will Ferrell, and JCR.. and Talladega Nights
by explosivo2k2 on Jul 30, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Will Ferrell ....
is really overrated but I like JCR. I thought the movie was pretty funny.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Good for some laughs
But it IS pretty stupid.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
why
does he have seay still warming up if he ain’t gonna bring him in?
I'm surprised..
Leyland is still alive.
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i mean a single. my fault.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Owww eee oooooo
Maaaagliooooooooooo. So close, but no Marlboro.
thank goodness betancourt is a trainwreck.
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i don't see why you take cabrera out of this game.
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I don't
really want Miggy at second base trying to score on a base hit…
i get that part of it...
but they can’t get him out. what happens when the club needs runs later in this game? then they have santiago hitting fifth.
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by spotstarters on Jul 30, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Sidenote
Manny quote today, “The Red Sox try to paint me as the bad guy…..I’ve seen what they do to other great players…...the Red Sox don’t deserve me.”
sometimes I wonder
as much as the offense has been shut out and as much as the pitching has had terrible games, if they don’t just want to beath the shit out of each other.
For once this year
I would like to see Renteria get a hit when Rod Allen tells us how clutch he’s been in his career.
leyland's playing with fire
they trade pudge, then play their emergency catcher, who comes out of the game. Inge better be prepared to suck it up tonight
bobby just carved him up. nice work.
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The way this season's going
the guy hitting .188 will get the walk-off
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
Since 1956...
these players have had 5 extra base hits or more in one game….
Steve Garvey
Shawn Green
Willie Stargell
Kelly Shoppach…
one of these names doesn’t belong.
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Maybe Farnsworth could actually pitch in this game
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Zumaya hasn't pitched yet
But maybe Leyland’s trying to save him for tomorrow.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Columnists are finally chiming in on the trade
Wojo: Desperate Tigers had to get pitching help
Rosenberg: Farnsworth gives Tigers a shot at playoffs
waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com
who's done less with more:
A. Shef
B. Robertson
C: Renteria
I’m not even thinking of Willis since he’s been “hurt” all year
Wow...
if granderson can consistently go the opposite way he’ll hit .325 every season.
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MOTHER
F’ER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
seems like
Betancourt has been out there foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrr
intentionally walk Maggs to get to Ramon?
it’s not by the book, but I mean, bit of a talent drop off
MF'ING CURTIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HELLS YES@!!!!!!!
Somebody is going to have to jerk one for us to win.
Not sure we can string hits together at this point.
now
if/when Ramon doesn’t get a hit we can all second guess the decision to pinch run him…
Ramon
I understand the move, but its something you have to question because Gary Sheffield and Edgar Renteria were up following …. that was the only thing that made me doubt the move, but I still think it was a move they had to make.
If it weren't past midnight
I would almost laugh at that double play Renteria just hit into.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
Harry Houdini would have trouble wriggling out of this jam
Fossum is no Houdini.
waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com
If the Indians don't win here
Eric Wedge might jump off the top of one of those light towers.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Bases loaded, no one out.
And insanely hot Shoppach coming up to the plate. This does not bode well.
waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com
Shoppach
He’s just tired out from all the other swinging he did in this game.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
Well I'll be! Shoppach K's!
The dude was trying to hit the ball across Lake Erie.
waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wILL THIS GAME EVER END???
Un-frickin-believable!!!!
Am I just slappy from being up so late? Did that double play really just happen?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
yeah...
this has been something.
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by spotstarters on Jul 31, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Vacation
Blake, you could’ve already left AND come back during this game. How was your trip?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah...
I’ll need a break after this. I don’t think I could go from Lansing to Interlochen to Lansing in five hours, but it’d be close.
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by spotstarters on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Harry Houdini comes thru! Double play!
I did NOT expect this game to go another inning.
waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com
nope...
the Indians may have worse luck than the tigers.
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by spotstarters on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
no f'n way
is that 2 out of the last three innings the Tigers escape a bases-loaded jam?
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
I think so
It’s all a blur right now.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Fossum
didn;t he get out a bases loaded jam when the Indians were at the CoPa earlier this month?
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
All of my rage toward Nate and Jonesy has completely dissipated at this point.
I don’t even remember what they did.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions
I was just thinking...
about what I’d write about for this game. It’s becoming clear that I remember very little.
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by spotstarters on Jul 31, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I had a recap half-written
Trashed it almost two hours ago.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I’ve been burned doing that before. Good times.
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by spotstarters on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
is this still the same game?
Kenny Rogers? They started a new game at 1230?
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 31, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
This game may travel...
right on through the trade deadline.
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this game may need to be added
to the definition of ricockudonkulous...
Hey
Just got back from a business trip…...
What is going on? Please tell me how we blew it in the 9th?
Ian, you might might as well do a combo game recap/game thread at this point
waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com
Yeah, really
“Justin Verlander and Fausto Carmona will have no choice but to pitch every single inning today…”
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
so....
scale of 1-10, how comfortable are you with this lead?
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I'm at about a 3.2.
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by spotstarters on Jul 31, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
so...
i guess i’m a bit more confident than you then.
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by spotstarters on Jul 31, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
yikes.
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by spotstarters on Jul 31, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
are you up to a ...
.0002 now?
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by spotstarters on Jul 31, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll up my number to a robust...
4.5 now.
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i'm at a 6.5
the Indians probably would have won the game last inning if they just took all of Fossum’s pitches
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
Farnsworth...
is on ESPN crying like a bitch.
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Leyland must be ready to choke Fossum
A leadoff walk!
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions
two outs...
man on first.
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by spotstarters on Jul 31, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Can a team be considered a contender...
when they employ Casey Fossum?
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I say no
But he’s done some good work for the Tigers this year.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
are we approaching the comment record?
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by spotstarters on Jul 31, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Couldnt stay away..
after i saw fossum get out of that jam
i think this gamethread is going to set the comment record
I didn't realize the count was so high
Maybe I should’ve set up an overflow thread.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
finally...off to bed
to quote Ralph Wiggum:
“Sleep, where I’m a Viking!”
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
seriously?
I’ve been at a bar the last two hours celebrating a friend’s birthday, and espn was on two different tvs in eye shot, and I missed the Tigers score the WHOLE DAMN TIME….
and now i get back and then win in 14? Me likey….
ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I figured I'd be chained to the computer anyway
With the trade deadline, so yeah, why not?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn't
we do this last week to, 12 hours between games, rain delay last week….
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