Detroit Tigers @ Seattle Mariners GameThread, Jul 5, 2008 10:10 PM EDT

Game 87: Tigers (43-43) at Mariners (34-52)

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 5, 2008 9:41 PM EDT in News Comment 110 comments

Detroit Tigers @ Seattle Mariners

Armando Galarraga (7-2, 3.40) vs. R.A. Dickey (2-4, 4.53)

How has R.A. Dickey performed against the Detroit Tigers? Let's take a look at the last two times he's faced them:

April 6, 2006: Seven runs and eight hits (six home runs!) in 3 1/3 innings.

May 8, 2004: Six runs and nine hits (only one home run) in 3 2/3 innings.

Dickey has pitched well in his last two starts, however, giving up just 2 earned runs in 13 1/3 innings.

Contrarily, Armando Galarraga hasn't pitched all that well in his last couple of outings, allowing a combined nine runs (seven earned) in 10 2/3 innings. Two starts probably isn't enough to get worked up about, but perhaps it's worth wondering whether or not Galarraga is reaching something of a plateau as he's pitching more major league innings than he ever has. Of course, he could throw a great game tonight and scotch that thought before it was fully formed.

Last time the Tigers had a late Saturday night game, we played the Bay City Rollers to get everyone in the mood. That was... less than popular (even though Detroit won that game), so we'll try something different tonight. You can thank Kurt for the suggestion.

Apologies for being a bit late on posting the GameThread. The day got away from me a bit. Cheers!

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Starting Lineups

DETROIT

1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
5. Marcus Thames, LF
6. Gary Sheffield, DH
7. Matt Joyce, RF
8. Edgar Renteria, SS
9. Dane Sardinha, C

SEATTLE

1. Ichiro Suzuki, RF
2. Jose Lopez, 2B
3. Raul Ibanez, LF
4. Jose Vidro, DH
5. Adrian Beltre, 3B
6. Jeremy Reed, CF
7. Richie Sexson, 1B
8. Jeff Clement, C
9. Yuniesky Betancourt, SS

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 5, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Now that I am

over my hang over, from the game yesterday and the booze, not too mention the numerous flash burns and bug bites….let’s win a freaking game!

by Zappatista on Jul 5, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

*to

maybe I’m not over the booze. My mom, the English teacher would NOT be happy with me over that…

by Zappatista on Jul 5, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Saturday night is the night I like

and a Tigers win will be alright alright!!

by MSU4LIF on Jul 5, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Where's everyone?

Don’t they have wi fi at the lake?

by MSU4LIF on Jul 5, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I am here

Just quiet. I enjoy hearing what you all have to say.

by ashmark on Jul 5, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dirty

needs to put it in play.

by Zappatista on Jul 5, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Trivia

What does the R.A. in R.A. Dickey stand for?

by MSU4LIF on Jul 5, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Runs Allowed?

When he faces the Tigers, anyway.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 5, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm glad

you took it in that direction…

by Zappatista on Jul 5, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Robert Alan

but I like yours better

by MSU4LIF on Jul 5, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

B.A.Dickey

He should really be known as Bob and then he would be B.A.

by ReichardZ on Jul 6, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Carlos!!!!

by ashmark on Jul 5, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

C YA

by Zappatista on Jul 5, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That's ONE!!!

Five more to go to match 4/6/06

by MSU4LIF on Jul 5, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WOW

I thought that was was on its way too

by Zappatista on Jul 5, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Who was Joyce calling off?

by MSU4LIF on Jul 5, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Can you believe

That was Miggy’s 12th error? Does anyone know how many have been at 1st base?

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Vidro

With a .220 average and 5 dingers, maybe the M’s should look into the NL as to remedy their DH issues?

by Zappatista on Jul 5, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

MT

should eat him up..

by Zappatista on Jul 5, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I thought Renteria was getting

the night off

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe the knuckleball changed Leyland's mind?

About that Renteria sitting thing…

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 5, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Speaking of knuckleballs...

I assume some of you are watching this game (believe it or not, it is not on TV in FL)...Dickey throws a lot of fastballs for a knuckler, does he have the same wind-up?

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And

how does Gameday differentiate between a 83 mph changeup and a 84 mph fastball?

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good question

Maybe that’s why he gets shelled

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 5, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Leyland

wanted mostly right handers against Dickey

by ashmark on Jul 5, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Off-topic, Tigers-wise

Have you guys read the article on Tim Lincecum in this week’s Sports Illustrated? Great stuff.

Makes me wish I’d have watched Lincecum more closely when he faced the Tigers a few weeks ago.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/tom_verducci/07/01/lincecum0707/index.html

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 5, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Lids

Have you noticed the red, white and blue caps this weekend?

by MSU4LIF on Jul 5, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes

I really like the red white and blue combined with the ole’ English D, good stuff.

by slomo984 on Jul 5, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m trying to decide whether or not they belong in my cap collection.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 5, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How can you miss

Richie Sexson’s strikezone?

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No kidding

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 5, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thumbs up on the Mariners' "ball dudes"

That could be the beer talking, but I’m just sayin’

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 5, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gorkys Hernandez

Came across this link on mlb.com

Gorkys going to the Future’s Game at Yankee Stadium for the second year in a row.

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200807043063337

by MSU4LIF on Jul 5, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Weren't Omar Infante

and Andre Torres in the Future’s Game? I think Infante was in it twice.

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Andres Torres?

Blurgh.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 5, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Like that?

How about Milt Cuyler, Skeeter Barnes, and Brian L. Hunter.

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's funny

How it took about 15 years to find a speedy defensive CF that can hit.

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Polly says

“you’ve got to be kidding me, blue”

by wepri31 on Jul 5, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Is Armando getting

squeezed? Or is he just off tonight?

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nibbling a bit?

Especially to the sluggers in Seattle’s lineup.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 5, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That seems to be

Our MO this year

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And Armando's next performance

Bottom 4 – he will pull a Satchel, walk the bases loaded and then K the next three – how did Steven Tyler put it – Livin’ on the Edge

by MSU4LIF on Jul 5, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Miggy goes BOOM!

You knew that was gone as soon as he swung, man. That guy hits rockets to right field.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 5, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

MIGGY!

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

On Leyland wanting righties in the line up

If that is SO true, why wouldn’t Raburn start in right ?

by Zappatista on Jul 5, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No kidding

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Especially

when Joyce can’t hit off-speed stuff

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

AGAIN WITH SEXSON!

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

HE WAS IN THERE!

by Zappatista on Jul 5, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

NOPE

Maybe he should work on sliding next time he’s in Toledo…

by Zappatista on Jul 5, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Where is the strikezone?

Those sliders at the knees look good.

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OUT

of the jam

by dettigionswings'stons on Jul 5, 2008 11:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

At least Joyce

Got a bat on the ball this time.

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 11:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Besides being lefthanded

Does anyone know what Joyce brings that Clevlen doesn’t?

by TonyS on Jul 5, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

A little power? I dunno how Clevlen's power is..

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 5, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Clevlen has good power

about 20 HRs at Toledo

by TonyS on Jul 6, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he's low on options?

lol, I have no idea..

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Clement crushed that ball..

Good thing it was just a solo shot

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey can we give Renteria back to Atlanta?

They can keep Gorkys and we’ll take Jurrjens back

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't think ATL

would buy that!

by TonyS on Jul 6, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No I know, we probably couldn’t pay them to take him back ..

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hats

What does anyone think about the flag hats?

by ReichardZ on Jul 6, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I like Detroit’s better than Seattle’s.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 6, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Of all the MLB teams

I think I like Milwaukee’s the best

by ReichardZ on Jul 6, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cleveland's is a bit of a problem

That Chief Wahoo face just doesn’t work with the stars and stripes.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I haven’t seen them, you guys have a link?

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just saw that

He’s got that star for a nose

by ReichardZ on Jul 6, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah the Indians one looks no good..

I probably wouldn’t buy one even with Ye Olde English D though

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Cubs one isn't too bad

The logo has to be simple for the hat to work

by ReichardZ on Jul 6, 2008 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can barely make it out!

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whoops..here’s what I meant to link to

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OK so crisis averted by Rodney there.

Let’s get some insurance runs!

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If we could get a 2-out

hit with RISP, we’d have insurance runs.

by TonyS on Jul 6, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Come on now, that's asking a little much :)

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate

Taking Thames out late in the game, especially when we’ve only scored 2 runs.

by TonyS on Jul 6, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Really surprised Clete struck out there. I thought he’d make something happen.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 6, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Decent AB though, he made Bautista work quite a bit

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's nothing against Clete

Its just that if you make a mistake to Thames , he puts it in the seats. A mistake to Clete and he shoots a single through the hole.

by TonyS on Jul 6, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Im just happy the big L is comfortable enough with the rooks to play them.

by Juskimo on Jul 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whee

I get this one in HD. Solo Homers All Around!

by Juskimo on Jul 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sure would be nice...

if we could put up more runs, in general, against the Mariners. This has been a bit surprising past couple of games.

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Jul 6, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No Maggs + Slumping Renteria = low scoring

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

CLEMENT?! AGAIN?!

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

shit shit shit.

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Jul 6, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This Jeff Clement fellow

worries me.

by Juskimo on Jul 6, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Are you kidding me?

by TonyS on Jul 6, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh... crap

That Clement guy has some power.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 6, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

2 out of his 4 home runs on the season in this game

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

2 of his 17 HITS this season have come in this game

by TonyS on Jul 6, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He is a

high upside mariners prospect who has been jerked around by management in favor of terrible hitters like Jose Vidro and Miguel Cairo.

The Mariners blog community has been calling for at bats for him for a long time.

by Juskimo on Jul 6, 2008 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Plus the team gave a big contract to kenji johjima

You know how it goes with having to play the players who are making the money.

by ReichardZ on Jul 6, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's easy to say now

But I didn’t like Rodney pitching more than one inning.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 6, 2008 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, especially with a fresh bullpen

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just the 3 guys you want

coming up to start a rally

by TonyS on Jul 6, 2008 12:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I missed it, is it 7-8-9?

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can we put Raburn’s jersey on Thames and sneak him back out there for Renteria?

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did I mention how much I disliked Renteria?

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory

Or “Failure to Launch” are both apt phrases for this game.

by ReichardZ on Jul 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bats have been (nearly) hitless in Seattle

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

We can't afford

To lose to the Mariners.

by TonyS on Jul 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That was shocking

And now the Tigers are faced with having to salvage a split.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I stayed up for this game...

And all I got was disappointment

by ReichardZ on Jul 6, 2008 12:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I can't believe Clement hit 2 f'n HRs!

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

White Sox and Twins both won, too

Little salt in the wound for you.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 6, 2008 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well, I guess we actually couldn’t keep up that .800 winning pace the rest of the season..

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 6, 2008 12:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I just got home

I told myself on the drive home that they either held on to the 2-0 lead, or I was going to be unhappy, so there was no sense trying to find out the score before I got home. Well, it was the latter.

The truth is, you can’t win them all, and these types of losses will happen. The key now is salvaging the split in Seattle tomorrow….

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 6, 2008 1:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs