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Game 117: Athletics (54-62) at Tigers (57-59)

Oakland Athletics at Detroit Tigers, Aug 10, 2008 1:05 PM EDT


Greg Smith (5-10, 3.99) vs. Nate Robertson (6-8, 6.11)

Just out of curiosity, what do you think Nate Robertson's record would be if he had a 3.99 ERA, as his pitching counterpart, Greg Smith, does?  Over the past month, Robertson's ERA has risen almost a full run, from 5.26 to 6.11.  His start last Tuesday against the White Sox was actually considered "decent," despite him giving up four runs and nine hits in five innings, which only underlines how poorly he's pitched recently. 

Yet Robertson's performance was overshadowed (overlooked?), partially because of the run support received, but largely due to a bullpen meltdown led by Kyle Farnsworth and Joel Zumaya.  We know Zumaya won't pitch today, as the Tigers will keep him from throwing on consecutive days.  But I imagine we'll see The Farns if there's a save situation. 

If the Tigers' lineup has another 10-spot in them, however, their pitching might look just fine today.

For the A's, Smith is winless in his last six starts, allowing four runs or more in four of those outings.  He pitched well in his previous start, however, giving up just two runs over six innings.  Unfortunately, Oakland's bullpen couldn't hold the lead, as Huston Street coughed up two runs in the ninth inning, something that's been painfully familiar to Tigers fans in recent weeks.

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i bet inow someone who isn’t too disappointed to have to play 3rd on his scheduled day off… :)

by wepri31 on Aug 10, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Guys

C Granderson CF
P Polanco 2B
R Raburn LF
M Ordonez RF
M Cabrera 1B
G Sheffield DH
B Inge 3B
E Renteria
D Sardinha

Bad Guys

R Sweeney RF
M Ellis 2B
F Thomas DH
E Brown LF
B Crosby SS
C Gonzalez CF
K Suzuki C
D Barton 1B
J Hannahan

by Wingz on Aug 10, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Being as it looks like Ian’s not here today I’ll help him out…..

by Wingz on Aug 10, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nate

If he can’t beat the AAA’s, it’s time to give one of the kids a chance.

by Rogo on Aug 10, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Good start anyway, lets see if it lasts!

by Wingz on Aug 10, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Different Edgar

I don’t know about that…...

by Wingz on Aug 10, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Me neither

I think the mediocre pitching of the AAA’s (I liked that) is really helping

by TFerg1103 on Aug 10, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

that was a crazy play

by wepri31 on Aug 10, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Nate

looks pretty good so far today, hope he keeps it up.

by Wingz on Aug 10, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

I just hope he maintains this focus. He usually starts to get sloppy in the 5th.

If he can keep his pitch count down and stay rested he might be able to mentally stronger in the later innings.

by TFerg1103 on Aug 10, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leyland

Has he commented on Polanco changing how he holds the bat despite leading the team in hits?

by Rogo on Aug 10, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

the only people i’ve heard talk about it were rod and mario

by wepri31 on Aug 10, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

renteria getting the intentional walk. wow.

by wepri31 on Aug 10, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

We've got to capitalize on the walks now...

6 left on base is inexcuseable against this team

by TFerg1103 on Aug 10, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

And of course

Aside from Grandy’s homer, they all swing at the first pitch

by TFerg1103 on Aug 10, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

8 LOB Through 5

Gee…who could have seen that coming with today’s lineup? Oh yeah…everyone.

by Rogo on Aug 10, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

gutsy and impressive move by the great dane

by wepri31 on Aug 10, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

they’re playing the party music in the park…. love it when that happens!

by wepri31 on Aug 10, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Good job, Grandy...

...most underrated player in baseball.

by Rogo on Aug 10, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

my goodness

is Nate Robertson really throwing a three hit shutout thru 7 innings?

by ahtrap on Aug 10, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like an OLD Nate start...

...he’s doing well. We have 10 left on base.

by Rogo on Aug 10, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Uh-oh.

Captain Crookedhat goes 2-1 to Frank.

by rook34 on Aug 10, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty slow thread

I guess Sunday afternoon + Olympics + disappointing season will do that though.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 10, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

olympics....bleh

don’t really care this year, dunno why…..heck, even the Lions preseason opener didn’t really register with me….

by ahtrap on Aug 10, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's tougher with the time difference

hard to figure out when the heck things are on. Plus, the good stuff is mostly still to come.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 10, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got Men's Trav (shooting)

on right now. Strangely compelling. It’s on MSNBC.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 10, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watched some of the basketball this morning...

but yeah, not a lot of appointment viewing unless you are a Phelps fan

by rook34 on Aug 10, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

fiancee’s into the gymnastics….so I guess I’ll have to watch some….

by ahtrap on Aug 10, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh that was epic. fantastic job by oakland there hahahahaha

by wepri31 on Aug 10, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

good sound effects from rod and mario as well

by wepri31 on Aug 10, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Double by Raburn

Polanco scored and the ball got by the catcher at the plate, the pitcher was backing up and tried to get Raburn, who was advancing to third.

The ball got by 3B and Raburn scored.

Double with E-1

by TFerg1103 on Aug 10, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

gametracker is probably

trying to figure out how to describe it.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 10, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

A’s fans have to be pretty disgusted. Beane cleaned out the pitching staff yet again to keep payroll down, and what is left behind is pretty bad. How do they justify that?

by rook34 on Aug 10, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beane

is always rebuilding and their fans believe it I guess

by ashmark on Aug 10, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beane's rebuilds...

are a crock. We can complain about DD making bad deals, but at least he went for it. I would find it hard to be an A’s fan.

by rook34 on Aug 10, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's had them in the playoffs more years than not

so yeah, I think the fanbase trusts him. Just as I trust DD to turn this team around next year (I am serious, not being sarcastic).

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 10, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear you.

I think we may actually be pretty good next year with a few good moves. Mr. I still wants that World Series.

by rook34 on Aug 10, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Throw at the plate to get Polly overthrown so run scores, Pitcher backing up catcher throws the ball to third overthrowing for another error and that allows Raburn to come home on what should of been a single

by ashmark on Aug 10, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone see all the Sheffield comments...

about how he is open to a trade to a contender and he is not happy as a DH? I am sure DD’s phone is ringing off the hook.

by rook34 on Aug 10, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Gary

He’s been talking WAY too much lately for a guy that does nothing but K, pop up, and hit into double plays.

by Rogo on Aug 10, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

seems like he is never happy with any team for a long period of time.

by ashmark on Aug 10, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

They should ship him to the Toledo Mud Hens for the stretch run.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 10, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

I live in Toledo. Screw that.

by Rogo on Aug 10, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sheff

Might the Rays be interested? They kicked around for a veteran bat to play some OF (and DH), and Sheff is from Tampa. Tigers would have to eat most of him contract, but still…

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 10, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope someone wants him.

I’d rather have Marcus DH every day than Gary.

by Rogo on Aug 10, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe.

I know they wanted Bay. But Gary seems like a lot of baggage to attach to a team that has had it pretty drama-free to this point.

by rook34 on Aug 10, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read it at another site than the ones listed above and they said Tampa was a possible resting place for Shef

by ashmark on Aug 10, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

It can't be good

for the kids like Raburn, Joyce, etc to hear him bitching all the time.

by Rogo on Aug 10, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

even if he's a hell of a guy in the clubhouse

which he might be (talking to the press doesn’t mean he’s a bad teammate), it’d be good to clear a spot for one of the youngsters.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 10, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably...

but if Polly and the vets like that keep close to Joyce and Raburn, they ought to be okay. But you never know how a clubhouse works. Seems like we have kind of a disconnected group.

by rook34 on Aug 10, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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