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Game 119: Blue Jays (60-59) at Tigers (58-60)

Toronto Blue Jays at Detroit Tigers, Aug 12, 2008 7:05 PM EDT


A.J. Burnett (14-9, 4.62) vs. Zach Miner (6-4, 3.57)

What happens when you take a pitcher who's won eight of his previous 10 starts and put him against a team that's gone 3-7 in its last 10 games?  That's what we get to find out tonight at Comerica Park.  The Tigers better have gotten all the "blah" out of their system last night, because if they bring that kind of effort again, this ballgame could get ugly. 

A.J. Burnett hasn't been entirely dominant, however, as he's allowed four runs in each of his last two appearances.  He faced the Tigers earlier this season in Toronto, giving up three runs despite issuing six walks in five innings, and earning the win.

Making his fifth start since returning to Detroit from Toledo, Zach Miner has suddenly become one of the Tigers' most reliable pitchers.  His ERA is under 2.00 as a starter, and he's gone into the sixth inning in each of his four appearances.  If Freddy Garcia joins the Tigers' major league roster in the next couple of weeks, Miner's spot in the starting rotation is not the one he should take.

Gary Sheffield was one of several players the Tigers put on waivers today, but the move seems like more a formality than a statement.  Regardless of what's happened the last two days, Sheff probably would've gone on waivers anyway.  He's in tonight's lineup as the designated hitter, batting seventh.

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Starting Lineups

Same as last night, across the board.

DETROIT

1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Matt Joyce, LF
7. Gary Sheffield, DH
8. Edgar Renteria, SS
9. Brandon Inge, C

TORONTO

1. Joe Inglett, 2B
2. Marco Scutaro, 3B
3. Alex Rios, RF
4. Vernon Wells, CF
5. Matt Stairs, DH
6. Rod Barajas, C
7. Adam Lind, LF
8. Lyle Overbay, 1B
9. John McDonald, SS

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Waivers

Pointless speculation as to who else went on the wire today?

Nate?

by Jerkwheat on Aug 12, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

i was wondering the same thing. sadly i cant watch the game to hear gary get booed i have to work OT tonight!

by HavocRox on Aug 12, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marco Scutaro

I’m just not ready to accept that he’s playing for another team besides the A’s. He seemed like such the right fit there, along with guys like Randy Velarde.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

They'll put everyone on waivers

worst that can happen is that they get claimed and the Tiger pull them back. Close to 100% of players are put on waivers every August.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 12, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I may not be here all night

Tornado warnings in the area down here in Mobile, AL. If I don’t make it, tell Grandy I love him.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 12, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

He already knows, Matt. He already knows.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guarantee Sheffield will clear waivers

If anyone put in a claim, the Tigers would gladly let them have him for nothing. (See for instance how the Yankees got stuck with Jose Canseco back in the day).

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 12, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Question

What should I be hoping for to happen with this Freddy Garcia thing?

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 12, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

pitches well and decides to stay

certainly possible, as the Tigers continue to become Team Venezuala, but I’m gunshy about another deal for a 30 something pitcher…

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 12, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Verlander keeps pitching as he has...

Maybe Garcia takes over when Justin has a “tired arm.”

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why sign Garcia, by the way?

Is this an example of Dombrowksi being the last to know that the playoffs aren’t happening this year, or is it more geared towards getting a jump on signing him for 2009?

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it is more for 2009

And why not? It is a low-risk contract.

He pitched well before the injury. At this point with the uncertainty of Bonderman and Rogers (coming back), why not?

by TFerg1103 on Aug 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess would be the latter

Although maybe he’s thinking if they’re still alive in September, Garcia makes a nice addition.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

it’s minimal investment and creates good will with the pitcher in case he actually can still pitch well.

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 12, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get a jump on next season

Willis is a huge question mark, so is Robertson. Rogers probably isn’t coming back. Bonderman’s injured, Verlander’s having a very down season. The Tigers need all the pitching they can line up for ‘09. Who knows. Garcia might come at a semi-reasonable price.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Aug 12, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

Dombrowski wants the Tigers to compete for Venezuela in the World Baseball Classic.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mario, Master of Understatement

He said A.J. Burnett has been injured a few times since signing with Toronto.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

trade?

I’m just hoping it boosts his “take the salary off our hands” value

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 12, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, .219 hitting DH's

making $14 million a season have no trade value.

waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com

by BigAl on Aug 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

WONDERING

I am stuck at work, anyone watching the game? can you tell me what the crowd did when Sheffield hit that dong?

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

applause.

Sounded the same as they’d give any home team homer I’d say. Maybe a bit quieter but not much off.

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Waivers!

Love them. How about Todd Jones floats his ass off on one. Renterria fo’sue! I was actually hoping Shef would be around Friday as I am going to the game, but you know…sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes…it eats you.

by Zappatista on Aug 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

nice. you're full of those.

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Aug 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like you style zappa

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeesh.

Gametracker makes it look like AJ is filthy tonight. Accurate?

by rook34 on Aug 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Miner

DD has to consider him for the rotation next year, no?

by Zappatista on Aug 12, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Has to

He’s been everything they could’ve hoped for to this point.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

I’ve been waving the pom poms for Miner all year.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it too early to say that Miner is in next year's rotation?

Verlander, Bondo, Galarraga, Miner, and maybe Garcia?

That doesn’t look bad to me, though there’s no left-hander.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

D Train will be rolling...again!

I’m not sure, but Miner looked good enough to be in the rotation the last time he was starting, but that didn’t happen. Willis will have to be given another chance, so …..who knows.

by Zappatista on Aug 12, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would prefer....

Derek Lowe. Veteran innings-eater. Will be available from LA as a free agent.

Unless we want to get into the Burnett bidding war, which I doubt.

by rook34 on Aug 12, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

another overpaid aging underperformer?

No thanks.

The concept is fine but I don’t like the example (Lowe).

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 12, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are going to need a proven innings eater.

Be it Garcia, or Lowe, or someone. Who else is out there?

by rook34 on Aug 12, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be fine with that...

but he will cost an absolute ton. That said, it isn’t my money.

by rook34 on Aug 12, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oliver Perez

Ben Sheets, CC Sabathia, etc…

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 12, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Accepted

I am not sure any jinx is strong enough to make them play any worse….

by Zappatista on Aug 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 strong for Zach

Well done. Nice to see Zach making the most of this shot, whatever happens. He has put up with lots of yo-yoing (some of it his own doing). I have never gotten the impression that he is a JL favorite, but maybe that is changing.

by rook34 on Aug 12, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Miner pitch count at 103--invoke the Verlander method

just let him throw a 130 pitches, who cares if he throws out his arm? I just cant stand to see the bull pen F—K this up…

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 12, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

and immediately I break into a cold sweat

thinking of the Tigers’ bullpen trying to protect a lead.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Bomb #2 for Sheff...

There may be some strange moments in the press room after.

by rook34 on Aug 12, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Thumbs up?

Is this just a sign that he has been loafing it? Oh, how do they say it….forcing their hand maybe?

by Zappatista on Aug 12, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I think sheff is as good as gone

to tampa once he clears waivers…for mat walker or jeremy hellickson..with detroit picking up a lot of his salary

by dettigionswings'stons on Aug 12, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.

Not sure Tampa will bite. Someone else could, though.

by rook34 on Aug 12, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy hell...

Sheff and Renteria are hitting tonight. Zach Minor is starting. Freddy Garcia is in the news…what bloody year is this?

by Rogo on Aug 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Just popped in for some Tigers Trivia

I came across this today…..

What current major leaguer has the most HR’s at Comerica Park?

(pardon me if this was already discussed)

by MSU4LIF on Aug 12, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Well well well

Did you both Google it? Did Mario tellyou last night? Or are you both just that damn good?

Give yourselves a pat on the back.

by MSU4LIF on Aug 12, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no faith in Zumaya right now.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I like JL’s idea to send him to winter ball.

I have even less faith in Inge catching Zoom right now.

by rook34 on Aug 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miner Interview

Wow….has FSN Detroit done this before…...interview a pitcher as soon as he comes out?

by MSU4LIF on Aug 12, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

They should keep it up

“Kyle Farnsworth, you blew the game by giving up two home runs in the 8th. Can you talk about that?”

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interview with Zach

Has FSN ever done this during the game before? I like this.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Take it a step further:

“Sheff…you just struck out again. What are your thoughts?”

by Rogo on Aug 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Field

The Zack Morris of Detroit baseball.

by Rogo on Aug 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

They forgot!

This team can still break our heart!

by densogirl on Aug 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bullpen

Just can’t seem to do anything right.

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Yikes...

And an absolute dead fastball hitter in Rios striding in. Look out below.

by rook34 on Aug 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry, Zach

The pen strikes again.

by Rogo on Aug 12, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Son of a biscuit

This is garbage.

If you took the second choice in this week’s poll question, would you like to re-vote?

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

all of a sudden

those flames tattooed on his arms have a different meaning.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

There it is...

that is why they called him, he is an expert. (accent noted)

by Zappatista on Aug 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

if only

they had Zack Miner in the bullpen!

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Leyland

Think he goes through more Marlboros or Tums nowadays?

by Rogo on Aug 12, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

They should see what they can get for Zumaya

with an arm like that, they could probably fetch quite a bit…

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I think they're all scared.

With what they’ve done lately, they’ve all got to be going “don’t f up…don’t f up” before every pitch. Thing is…they’re paid millions not to think that. Being human sucks, sometimes.

by Rogo on Aug 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Five batters without an out

Isn’t that what Tim Byrdak did in his last outing in a Tiger uniform?

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

that I hate these guys more than I love them these days.

by Jerkwheat on Aug 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think they were saying “Zoooooom”

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good.

If they are going to boo Sheff, they should spread it around to the others who are awful right now.

by rook34 on Aug 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

they were saying “Zoom-urns”

by Jerkwheat on Aug 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zamaya

In the dug out complaining to Shef. Probably about the strike zone. LOL

by ashmark on Aug 12, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Sheff just told him he’s flabbergasted.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somehow...

I do not see a comeback in the cards, but we have bounced back (sometimes temporarily) upon bullpen implosions recently. Let’s see if we can do it again.

by rook34 on Aug 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

So...

If Sheffield homers again in the bottom of the 8th, what does he say to the press after the game?

by Rogo on Aug 12, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Leyland

Jim would retire before bringing in Seay against three righties. He must think Cito’s crazy with Downs here.

by Rogo on Aug 12, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Oops.

As usual, I have the batting order screwed up in my head. Apologies.

by Rogo on Aug 12, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

COME ON

DO IT FOR MARIO’S DAD

by Jerkwheat on Aug 12, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh. It's only two runs

Tigers can get those back

and then lose in extras.

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 12, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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