Game 120: Blue Jays (61-59) at Tigers (58-61)
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 13, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
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Toronto Blue Jays at Detroit Tigers, Aug 13, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
David Purcey (1-3, 7.40) vs. 
Kenny Rogers (8-9, 4.92)
The good news is that the Detroit Tigers can salvage a split out of this series by winning the next two games. The bad news is that I actually had to type out such a sentence to lead off this GameThread.
Watching the Tigers devotedly is beginning to feel like an abusive relationship. After Monday night's "blah" loss, maybe you had finally had it. You were getting out of this thing, because you deserve to be treated better. By Tuesday evening, however, you were willing to give them another chance. Because hey, they mean well. And we've had some good times. Then the bullpen blew the game, and you remembered why you wanted to leave in the first place. So the question is, how are you feeling tonight?
Or am I just speaking for myself here?
Kenny Rogers has lost his last three starts, giving up 15 earned runs in the process. Though if he'd gotten any kind of run support from his lineup (Two runs against Dallas Braden, fellas?) against Oakland last Friday, he probably would've earned a win. On the other side, David Purcey makes just his sixth major league start. His very first one was against Detroit back in April, and he walked seven batters in just 4 1/3 innings. Unfortunately, the Tigers only scored run off Purcey that night, beginning a season-long dance with frustration.
Carlos Guillen is out of tonight's lineup. That pain in his back that took him out of action the last few games was caused by a pinched nerve, according to a MRI exam. As a result, Guillen will take it easy for two or three days. Ryan Raburn Ramon Santiago will start at third base in his place this evening.
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Starting Lineups
DETROIT
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Magglio Ordonez, RF
4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
5. Gary Sheffield, DH
6. Ryan Raburn, LF
7. Edgar Renteria, SS
8. Brandon Inge, C
9. Ramon Santiago, 3B
TORONTO
1. Marco Scutaro, 3B
2. David Eckstein, 2B
3. Alex Rios, CF
4. Vernon Wells, DH
5. Rod Barajas, C
6. Adam Lind, LF
7. Lyle Overbay, 1B
8. Kevin Mench, RF
9. John McDonald, SS
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 13, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I take it last night was the nail in the coffin around here?
by Zappatista on Aug 13, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry?
I couldn’t quite catch that over the sound of crickets chirping.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 13, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is the first game i’ve been able to see in a few days and i’m finding it hard to muster up any enthusiasm
by wepri31 on Aug 13, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Waiver
Was there any other news leaked out today abou the “several others” that were put on waivers? Work has been consuming my days, ie my surfing time….
by Zappatista on Aug 13, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not that I've seen
It could literally be the whole roster, with the Tigers pulling back any player claimed who they don’t want to lose.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 13, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet everyone's seeing 'Tropic Thunder'
Downey looks hilarious!
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 13, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Grand salamo from Vernon Wells
Turn out the lights; thanks for stopping by.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 13, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fun had by all
at the lowly Tigers expense….kind of like the 2003…
by Zappatista on Aug 13, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Give me a break, man
Say goodbye to Old Man Rogers. The Tigers should not bring him back next season. He’s done.
Currently, Detroit is being no-hit through 3 by a guy with a 7.40 ERA coming into the game.
by longview on Aug 13, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I keep thinking...
somehow things are going to get better. Am I insane?
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another question....
anyone read the Henning article today about slashing payroll?
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thought it was interesting that he speculated
that Maggs would be traded. . If Ilitch thinks he can wave the white flag and go back to business 03 and 04 style, he will have a half-empty stadium.
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which would show the true fairweather nature of Tiger fans. So many “fans” only care about the Tigers when it’s convenient for them, i.e., when they are winning and doing well. If Mr. Illitch dumps some payroll (and who could blame him after this year’s ongoing debacle), leaving the stadium half-empty, then shame on Tiger “fans” who’ve flocked to Comerica.
I have loved the Tigers since birth, ditto the Wings, Pistons, and Lions (I’m 25 for reference). I watched the Dead Things, cheered on a Piston team full of nobodies to terrible records, and sat in Comerica in 2003 with about 15,000 others. I don’t think I even have to mention the Lions, because, c’mon, it’s the Lions.
This “team” doesn’t feel like a team, it feels too much like the Yankees or Red Sox: a bunch of guys with the same uniform, and not a cohesive unit.
by longview on Aug 13, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point.
I have been a Tigers fan since birth ( I am 33) as well. I am afflicted. However, making cuts and going completely the other way are two different things. If Ilitch thinks he can become the Twins, he is wrong. Their scouts and minor league system are just better. Different business model. I would be very disappointed as a fan if management decides to run the other way as fast as possible based upon a perfect storm of a disaster season. I don’t think you should go all in one year and then bail when things don’t go to plan. He certainly never did that with the Wings (another love of mine since birth).
Personally, I think the team was built in mind for a two year run. Kaline and some others have also alluded to this. I hope they don’t just abandon ship and resign us all to a 75 win team next year.
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay let me clarify
First off, I don’t think Illitch will slash $40 mill.
Secondly, I do think it would be a bad move to just say, “Well, we had a few good years, now back to another 15-20 years of being a joke.” I do think that DD will be more cautious on who he goes after/signs, especially after whiffing big time on guys like Willis and E6gar.
Meanwhile, Jair Jurrjens is having a great season for the Bravos. Anyone know what the guys we traded for Sheff are doing these days?
by longview on Aug 13, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good question.
I have no idea. I heard Gorkys was doing okay in the minors, but he was part of the Edgar fleecing.
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt llitch would cut that much
But I’ll bet we’ll see a payroll right around $100 million, give or take. That would still be a $35-$40 million slash, but still in the upper tier of baseball. Detroit is a big enough market to sustain it.
Anyone on the sweet side of 30 and making big money could be vulnerable to being traded/cut/not re-signed.
And they better NOT trade Maggs.
waynefontes.com sidelionreport.com
by BigAl on Aug 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on all points.
Trading Maggs (unless you get a top-shelf pitcher or a near can’t miss young guy) would be PR suicide, particularly with one hugely popular player (Pudge) already gone.
Of course, PR may not be on their minds.
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if all the bandwagon fans jump off this year, at least i’ll be able to get better seats next season….. :D
by wepri31 on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's been my only saving grace this entire season
Cheap seats!
by longview on Aug 13, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been able to go to about 5-7 games a year, but I will (still) be attending my first game this
Friday, and I guess I could be more excited, but I still can’t wait.
by Zappatista on Aug 13, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here, Zappista.
It won’t be my first game of the season, but I’ll be going with a ton of family.
by Grant E. on Aug 13, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am with you...
I have been to 2 games in Detroit, 2 here in Chicago, and a couple of vacation trips. Even though we have not been good, I still look forward to going.
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Labor Day
I will be going to the Grand Prix at Belle Isle over labor day and then to the Tigers vs. Angels on the 2nd. Anybody have any of the rain out tix for the Yanks game on Monday they can’t use?
by Zappatista on Aug 13, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My roommate is at the game tonite
And his favorite player is Kenny.
Oops!
by longview on Aug 13, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ramon is auditioning to hang around...
A nice 11 pitch at bat and then our first hit.
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
28 comments through 6 full innings
This is a discouraged bunch for sure.
by longview on Aug 13, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I honestly cannot find much to say about this game.
I was going to complain about the Miggy double play, but….
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell was that?
Looked like me trying to stretch one in softball!
by Zappatista on Aug 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I speak the truth, my friend
Tigers Weekly is on now.
by longview on Aug 13, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Maggs?
Please, please no. Hopefully, we’ll get a functioning D-train and Garcia might work out. Maggs can at least be our DH for several years. He’s our shinging star from the best year and the greatest memories of Detroit baseball for generations.
It is good to read that most of you still enjoy going to a Tigers game. Myself, I’ve only been to 3 games and would love to go again.
by densogirl on Aug 13, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Grandy is the future face of this franchise...
For the next couple of years, I hope it will still be Maggs.
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Lil' Shef
What a freaking joke. Can’t even take it like a man. THOSE ARE WHAT WE CALL STRIKES.
by Zappatista on Aug 13, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe this is a rhetorical question...
but can’t someone else’s bullpen implode for once? Can we get the Mets on the schedule?
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Awkward moment?
When the other team’s pitcher crumbles to the ground with an injured knee/ankle/leg while you’re waiting in the on-deck circle.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 13, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't see what happened
How did Downs get hurt?
by longview on Aug 13, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
didnt look like he did anything wrong . maybe landed a bit funny when he was turning around…..
by HavocRox on Aug 13, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF IS WITH THAT CAMERA ANGLE?!
What the hell?! That camera angle made it seem like that ball was a no-doubt homer. They did that the other day my roommate and I noticed. Camera angle made it seem like a ball was a homer for sure, and instead it was just a deep fly ball.
Shake yourself, cameraman.
by longview on Aug 13, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rar. once again they get my hopes up just to send me crashing back down.
by wepri31 on Aug 13, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a crusher.
I think I seriously need to go into therapy. Tying run. Other team trying to give us the game. Freaking Edgar comes up big. Inge goes begging.
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Final comment for the evening...
These guys did not quit. A team that quits does not put together a rally, that sadly was not Inge-proof. Brando is a .220 hitter, and the times you want to hide those guys are the times they come up.
This is just another example of a snakebit, perfect storm season that started to go wrong when Zoom hurt his shoulder. Everything that could go wrong has.
by rook34 on Aug 13, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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