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Say What? Tigers Claimed Ibanez?

Do the Detroit Tigers really need another outfielder/first base/DH kind of player in their lineup?  Even if he hits left-handed?  According to SI.com's Jon Heyman, the Tigers were among several teams who made a waiver claim on Raul Ibanez, and Detroit won the claim, based on their inferior won-loss record.  

The Tigers thus had 48 hours to work out a trade with the Mariners, but couldn't reach an agreement before that window expired.  Heyman reports that Seattle was asking for multiple prospects in return from any team who wanted Ibanez because they expect him to be a Type A free agent, and will receive two draft picks if he signs with another club in free agency. 

But what if the two teams had agreed upon a trade?  Where exactly would Ibanez have played?  Left field is the obvious answer, but would that have been worth taking at-bats away from Matt Joyce, Marcus Thames, or Ryan Raburn?  Between those three, wouldn't they have matched whatever production Ibanez could've provided?  This season, Ibanez is batting .292/.356/.496 with 19 home runs and 82 RBIs.

He wouldn't have played much at first base - a position he hasn't manned since 2005 (and for four games), by the way.  And unless the Tigers had something in the works for Gary Sheffield, he likely wouldn't have seen much time at designated hitter, either.

And all of those questions overlook a fundamental question: What would have been the point?  Are the Tigers in playoff contention?  Would Ibanez make the difference between them making a push or falling further back?  Or would the Tigers have been content to collect those compensatory draft picks after Ibanez tested free agency?

One reason that at least makes some sense (though still not a lot) is that Detroit might have claimed Ibanez to prevent him from going to Minnesota.  The Twins were eyeing Ibanez as a possible replacement for Michael Cuddyer (or upgrade from Denard Span) in right field.  (Minnesota, meanwhile, did a little waiver blocking of their own, claiming another Mariner, Jarrod Washburn, presumably to stop him from going to the White Sox.)  But again, if the Tigers are out of the race, why bother?

However, it's also possible that the Tigers weren't just looking to block the Twins on this one.  Reportedly, the Rays and Red Sox were also interested in Ibanez, and both teams have been mentioned as potential destinations for Sheffield.  By claiming Ibanez, Dave Dombrowski keeps the potential market for their disgruntled desingated hitter open.  Now that could be some slick thinking.  If it's true.

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maybe simpler

Maybe it was just a bet that the Mariners would be idiots and undervalue him. Moving a pair of blocked prospects for a pair of draft picks might be acceptable.

Deep in my conspiracy-theory heart, though, I want to believe that it was actually the result of a back-room deal between Ken Williams of the White Sox and DD to block Ibanez from the Twins and as a secret clause in a deal involving (among other things) Sheffield, knuckleballing prospect Charles Haeger, the maidenhead of Ozzie Guillen’s daughter and cash considerations.

by cherub_daemon on Aug 15, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blocked prospects for draft picks?

Another good theory.

I also forgot to mention that Ibanez is owed about $1.35 million on his contract for the rest of the season.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 15, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tiger town issues....

If they could just handle their own problems I would feel better, ie Shef, Jones, Renterria (although he is actually hitting the ball and not into dp’s).

Hopefully I get to see the good Tigers tonight!

by Zappatista on Aug 15, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Twins wouldn’t have acquired him to try and upgrade over Span, that’d be awfully tough to do given the way he’s played this year. With Cuddyer out for the year though, they could’ve brought Ibanez into left, moved Young to right which is his natural position and then made Span the every day centerfielder while moving Gomez to AAA where he belongs. That ostensibly would’ve been an upgrade from Gomez’s .633 OPS in the 9 hole to Ibanez’s .852. That would’ve been a very tangible upgrade for the team.

Just felt some obsessive need to point out that Span wouldn’t be the guy being replaced. Yes, I’m aware thats a somewhat douche-y thing to do.

Corey Ettinger writes for Infieldirt.com, a site that is primarily Twins related, but which has frequent notes, stories, and thoughts from other teams around baseball, with a focus on the AL Central. If you live in the Fargo area, you can listen to Corey on the Derek Hanson show every Tuesday at 3:30 on AM1660.

by Corey Ettinger on Aug 16, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not at all

I appreciate being corrected. Especially when I make it obvious that I’m presuming something about a team I only watch when they play (beat) the Tigers.

Thanks, Corey.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 16, 2008 12:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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