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Game 110: Tigers (55-54) at Rays (64-44)

Detroit Tigers at Tampa Bay Rays, Aug 2, 2008 6:10 PM EDT


Kenny Rogers (8-7, 4.62) vs. Andy Sonnanstine (10-6, 4.65)

If you didn't already know or remember, tonight's game starts at 6:10 p.m., but the telecast won't begin until 7:06 p.m. (joining the game in-progress) because of the exclusive blackout window given to FOX for its Saturday Game of the Week.  FSN Detroit will re-air the game in its entirety following the conclusion of the original broadcast.

After beginning their last series against Cleveland with a paltry offensive output, the Tigers' lineup exploded for 26 runs in the next three games.  Are the Detroit bats due for a similar resurgence against Tampa in the remainder of this series? 

Such a rally might not come against Andy Sonnanstine, who's pitched very well recently.  In his last 10 starts, he's allowed more than three earned runs only once.  Sonnanstine also hasn't walked more than two batters in any of his starts this season, so the Tigers aren't going to see anything close to the generosity they received from Scott Kazmir last night. (Not that they did anything with all those baserunners, anyway.)

Kenny Rogers has taken over Nate Robertson's pattern of alternating good starts with bad starts.  (Robertson is in a whole new routine, in which three of every four starts is horrible.)  Last time out, Rogers wasn't very good versus the Indians, so he might swing back around for a good performance tonight.  On the road this season, Rogers is 5-5 with a 4.83 ERA in 13 starts. 

 

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And THAT is why...

I shouldn’t type out these posts right before I go to bed.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 3, 2008 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Next we’ll be calling him Nate Robinson Crusoe

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 2, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Read 'em and weep

Tigers

CF Granderson, Curtis
2B Polanco, Placido
3B Guillen, Carlos
RF Ordonez, Magglio
1B Cabrera, Miguel
LF Joyce, Matt
DH Sheffield, Gary
SS Renteria, Edgar
C Inge, Brandon

The Artists formerly known as the Devil Rays

2B Iwamura, Akinori
CF Upton, B.J.
LF Crawford, Carl
3B Longoria, Evan
1B Pena, Carlos
RF Gomes, Jonny
DH Aybar, Willy
C Riggans, Shawn
SS Bartlett, Jason

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 2, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

need this one

especially with the White Sox down 8-3 right now…

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a must win if Chicago loses.

gumtime.mlblogs.com

by Tony K on Aug 2, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

we MLB.tv folk

get to see the game from the beginning. Hopefully the Tigers have the lead when the Motown folks get in the game.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

bizzare first at bat

Curty checked his swing, umpire calls it strike 3, ball gets by Riggans, Curty gets to first.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

The Brewers are riding Sabathia like a rented mule

he’s out there in the 9th, trying to get his 4th complete game in his first 6 starts as a Brewer.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

hmm

not the best of starts by Kenny.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

So, who is long relief today?

Kenny just had a 29 pitch inning. Lopez?

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

whew

kenny barely escapes.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

cant wait till 7:06 to actually watch the game hoping for some more long innings so I can see some baseball tonight

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 2, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

this

is the definition of a pitcher laboring.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel bad

for those of you who are just tuning in and the game is already nearly over.

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 2, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Sonnanstine isn't that great

but yeah, chances don’t look so good.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sabathia?

Any chance the Tigers sign him this offseason? Kenny, Jones, Pudge, Edgar are off the payroll next year…

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Back up the truck...

and make a run at him, DD. There are not that many other FA pitchers, and we need a ton of help.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

so is it coming on or what?

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 2, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

You gotta be kidding?

I turn the game on and think they’re showing highlights from another game and come to find out, it’s a bad joke and the game has already started. Yank him, Leland. He’s not gonna recover like Kazmir.

by densogirl on Aug 2, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every now and then

I’m glad I live so far away from Detroit and don’t have to watch this kind of massacre.

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 2, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have direct tv?

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 2, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Its on Fox Sports Detroit

by Wingz on Aug 2, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the Tigers fall even further out of it

I think they should deal Robertson to anyone who’s willing to take him. That’d be another 7 mill off the books to free up some cash.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

that was a bad signing in my books

by Wingz on Aug 2, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

anytime

you can sign a 5th starter for 7 mill a year, you have to make that deal!

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think...

someone, perhaps the Rays, might be more likely to take Sheff than Nate. Nate is looking like Borowski.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking of the Rockies

they’ve bee trolling for a 5th starter. Going over to the NL would help Nate.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think time with Dontrelle in A ball would help Nate.

He has had a few good outings at home, but has been just awful everywhere else lately.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey ThaWalrus9

Appreciate your posting the new Rays logo to answer last night’s question.

by MSU4LIF on Aug 2, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

no prob

it was driving me crazy. I actually had to go over to the Rays fansite on SB Nation in order to get an answer.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well hopefully finding that answer

and with a Tigers win you can sleep easier tonight….

by MSU4LIF on Aug 2, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Maggs...

first pitch swings and pops to the right side, I will jump out my window.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep it going boys!!!!!!!!!

by Wingz on Aug 2, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Two more batters

before the human rally killer comes up

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 2, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Next year's team

Who from the 2007 squad should not be there next year. I say:

Fossum
Rogers
Jones
Robertson
Sheffield
Renteria
Farsnworth

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I say you keep Fossum around.

Other than that, looks pretty good. I do not think Sheff leaves unless he retires or someone is dumb enough to try to do a waiver deal. Leyland and DD will not get rid of him on their own accord.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suspect

That one or more outfielder will go. Tigers have a lot of outfield depth, they could trade from their strength.

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 2, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

could see Thames get traded.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This offseason

Could be one of the most interesting in recent history for the Tigers. I don’t think DD will figure that there are only a few minor tweaks to be made. Out of the starters, I’d say the ones who are SAFE are:
Grandy
Polly
Mags
Miggy
Brandon

I really wouldn’t be shocked to see Carlos packaged in trade

Starting pitchers?
Justin is the only one that I feel is safe.

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 2, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

DD is not sentimental

I would go even further and say that the only guys who are guaranteed to the Tigers next year are Grandy, Verlander, Miggy and Porcello.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with Pfuhr

Polly and Maggs are still elite at their positions and can’t be replaced within the system. Inge is our only capable catcher and there are none available.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think...

the boos for Gary will be deafening upon his return to Comerica. Unless no one is watching.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Mr. Bay...

looks pretty comfy at Fenway. 3-run blast tonight.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree.

Perfect for that team and that park. Plus, he is the anti-Manny in terms of temperment.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

at that rate, Kenny might be able to get us through 5.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Kenny has struck out 7?!?!??!?!

isn’t that one of the signs of the Apocalypse?

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Yikes.

This inning could push the game right over the edge.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

this sucks

why are the Tiger such a crappy, disappointing team?

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

oh lord

that ball was so wide, it should count as 2 balls

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Just tuned in

To see Eva Longoria’s brother hit in his 2nd RBI for a 6-2 TB lead..

Sigh.

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 2, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Could we, once....

get a dominant starting performance (not just an adequate one, like Zack gave yesterday) when we are really up against it? Last one I remember was JV in Baltimore after the 11-10 nightmare.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess the thing is, after that shitty, shitty start, our backs are against the wall every night

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 2, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently not and I sure don’t trust Dolsi in there. Does anyone else. Pitching awful, Inge looks awful, Carlos in a slump. Now we got Fossum warming up. God help us!

by densogirl on Aug 2, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I was getting at was this..

Seems like every other team has a guy every once in a while toss a 3 hitter out of nowhere. Obviously, we do not have that guy.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just picked up Liriano, hopefully he can translate his stats from AAA

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 2, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

2 Hours into it

Only ending the fourth. Batten down the hatches, it’s gonna be a stormy ride!

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 2, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup.

This staff could give up 14 or 15, easy.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

FYI

Over on the DRays page they are making fun of the Tigers’ bullpen. And I have absolutely no ammo to refute any of it…

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

hope

the Tigers’ offense should be able to score 6 more runs. Not that their bullpen could hold a lead, but still…

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

1 for 16

with RISP in this series.

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 2, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

And God only knows...

what lineup JL will play day game after a night game, claiming that everyone is tired.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats the truth…we suck

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 2, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Can someone in that dugout...

destroy a water cooler or something? Just to make us feel better.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Well

My dog is starting to look scared.

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 2, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of dogs

Today, I went to a garage sale and the family wants to give away one of their dogs…a shelti. The Tigers are giving me no pleasure, so maybe I’ll go with a new dog.

by densogirl on Aug 2, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have tickets to go to the Cell for Tigers/White Sox on Thursday.

Right now, it looks about as appealing to go to as a ritual killing.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

How much of this

is the Rays being a good team, and how much is the Tigers being a bad team?

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 2, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

70 percent us being lousy.

They have given us a ton of chances. They aren’t pitching that great.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

That’s enough. There’s nowhere near enough alcohol in my house to make this bearable. I’ll catch you Tiger fans tomorrow.

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 2, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone needs to hit Longoria in the head.

Dude is way too comfortable. Normally I do not advocate that, but now sounds like the time.

by rook34 on Aug 2, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

A few more games like this

And what is Dombrowski going to do. The Tigers have looked awful. And I don’t mean getting rid of Sheff. I don’t think that will happen til the end of the season. Dave just said the other day that .500 isn’t gonna get it.

by densogirl on Aug 2, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Finally

We get to see some decent pitching. Kyle looks pretty good.

by densogirl on Aug 2, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes he did. Maybe he will wear off on some of our other pitchers

by ashmark on Aug 2, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shef

I think we should just leave him in Florida when we leave. He lives there. He can stay there.

by ashmark on Aug 2, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

They're all so connected

DD, Leyland, Shef, and Pudge (they traded him, though) have all been part of a previous team. They must feel a certain loyalty to each other, but I think the fans deserve better. Hope Leyland is gone at the end of the year. Maybe I’m wrong about him, he’s done good things with the Tigers, but really, there’s no excuse for this team to be playing .500 ball. It’s inexcusable.

by densogirl on Aug 2, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leyland’s loyalty to Shef is uncalled for. If one of the other players were batting as bad as Shef, they would be benched. Epecially, when we have a couple of young kids at Toledo, who deserve to be with the big club.

by ashmark on Aug 2, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

DD

Needs to get a starting pitcher, some relief pictures, and at least a back up catcher for next year. I like bringing up players from the minors but Dane doesn’t have the stats to be a back up catcher for a full year.

by ashmark on Aug 2, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

Spelled Pitchers as pictures for relief pitchers. We need real ones not ones who picture we have.

by ashmark on Aug 2, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please

I don’t get anal over misspellings. Don’t need apologies for me. Hopefully, Armando will get us a win tomorrow.

by densogirl on Aug 2, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I love Armando. He is the man this year.

by ashmark on Aug 2, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it's about time for Leland to start mixing things up again

Maybe we’ll see Carlos behind the plate tomorrow so Inge can play 3rd.

by densogirl on Aug 2, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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