Game 133: Indians (64-67) at Tigers (64-68)
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 27, 2008 6:30 PM EDT
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Cleveland Indians at Detroit Tigers, Aug 27, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
Fausto Carmona (6-5, 4.40) vs. 
Justin Verlander (10-13, 4.42)
Fourth place? Yes, indeed. That's where the Tigers sit in the AL Central coming into tonight's game, now a 1/2 game behind the Indians. But if they don't like it, they can do something about it right away by salvaging a win in the finale of this series.
Justin Verlander has won his last two starts, allowing no earned runs over 12 2/3 innings. However, against the Indians this season, he has a 1-3 record and 5.84 ERA in four starts. For what it's worth, that one win came at home, where Verlander held the Tribe to two runs and two hits (with seven strikeouts) over seven innings.
Fausto Carmona has also pitched well in his last two outings, giving up just two earned runs in 12 innings against fearsome Texas and Anaheim lineups. Carmona has won his two starts versus the Tigers this season, posting a 2.08 ERA in 13 innings. Both of those games were at Cleveland.
Jeff Larish is fresh off the I-75 shuttle from Toledo to start tonight at third base for the continually aching Carlos Guillen. Larish handed the Mud Hens baton to Chris Lambert, who heads back down to the minors - at least until rosters expand next week.
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Starting Lineups
CLEVELAND
1. Grady Sizemore, CF
2. David Dellucci, DH
3. Ben Francisco, RF
4. Jhonny Peralta, SS
5. Shin-Soo Choo, LF
6. Ryan Garko, 1B
7. Kelly Shoppach, C
8. Andy Marte, 3B
9. Asdrubal Cabrera, 2B
DETROIT
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Matt Joyce, LF
3. Magglio Ordonez, RF
4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
5. Jeff Larish, 3B
6. Gary Sheffield, DH
7. Edgar Renteria, SS
8. Brandon Inge, C
9. Ramon Santiago, 2B
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 27, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i had to witness the bloodbath in person last night. tonight, i’m hoping things will go better today from the safety of my couch.
by wepri31 on Aug 27, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to get on here to vent...
before i kick my dog or something. What the hell is wrong with these guys? Verlander blows away sizmore the first time on fastballs… was way ahead of him with fastballs.. throws a breaking ball right over the heart of the plate? I can’t believe I watch this crap every night.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Aug 27, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep. Baseball is done for us right now. Bring on football.
Too bad we’ll all become enemies. I’m a Bears fan.
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a Saints fan… man I disliked you guys 2 years ago….
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Aug 27, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at this point 3-1 feels like the game is over already. sure they have 2 on right now, but somebody please tell the last time anyone has come through in the clutch? It’s been so long i can’t remember.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Aug 27, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i knew it was too good to be true
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Aug 27, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hello all
My first Game thread in a week or so. Let’s hope they can get the win tonight, I want to at least see them finish ahead of the Indians.
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 27, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
Is that really asking so much? Finish ahead of the team that has lost almost all of its star players this season!
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 27, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh believe me so do I… I live in Cleveland.. my phone has been none stop with freakin’ indians fans gloating….
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Aug 27, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a way it's ironic
We all thought the Tigers and Indians would be battling it out in the Central. Didn’t think it’d be for third.
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 27, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Aug 27, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MFer...
Verlander cannot be considered an “ace” and keep doing this crap. Is he just out of gas already?
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm just curious...
What the fuck does it say on the Tigers’ scouting report for Kelly Shoppach?
Somebody set fire to that damn thing. And maybe fire the scout who put it together.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 27, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It says...
…the same thing it says for Melvin Mora. And Luke Scott. And Grady Sizemore. And…
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so for people who are fans
what does everyone think of Metallica’s new song?
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 27, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haven't heard it.
Is it better than the last stuff they had out?
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
I think it’d fit right in on Justice. Starts a bit slow, but I like the length and the melody. If it was on Justice, it’d be one of the weaker songs though…
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 27, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The vocals...
James’ voice has changed a lot since then. But I agree about the music.
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
should the Tigers trade Curty?
I love him, but he’s one of the few guys who would bring a real haul back.
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 27, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so.
You know how hard it is to find a really good center fielder? Hell, we hadn’t anything close to “really good” since Chet Lemon before Granderson came along. Pettis, Curtis, Hunter, Sanchez, etc.
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree he'd be hard to replace
but that’s sort of the point, he’s a valuable asset, with a team friendly contract.
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 27, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed: Center fielders are too valuable
If Gorkys Hernandez was still in the system, that’d be one thing.
But I think Curtis is too much of a core player to trade. This eventually needs to become his team, transitioning over from the Pudge-Carlos Guillen-etc. leadership.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 27, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
trade him to the Yankees
for Phil Hughes and Austin Jackson (not sure the Yanks would do this deal).
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 27, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who plays CF for the Tigers?
Clete? Clevlen?
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 27, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in that particular scenario
Austin Jackson would.
Like I said, I love Curty, but the Tigers have several bad contracts and an older lineup. One of the few guys they could trade for a boatload is Curtis.
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 27, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jones
anyone else think its complete garbage for jones to leave the team and go home? injured or not hes a member of the team and should stay with them. just goes to show the me me me attitude of this years squad.
by HavocRox on Aug 27, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It does raise an eyebrow
Can he do more/better rehab back home? Is he sulking because it looks like he may be done for the season?
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 27, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last time he was on the dl he returned home and did some rehab at the clinic that the doctor that does all those shoulders injuries has so it might be he is going to try to rehab there again
by ashmark on Aug 27, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might as well face it
You’re addicted to Glove
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 27, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate being forced to Smell the Glove.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 27, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy crap, Choo crushed that
he’s only got 10 career HRs! Imagine how far one of Cleveland’s slugger would’ve hit that one…
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 27, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
Who are you all rooting for in the playoffs? I guess I’m going with the Cubs…just to end all the “Curse” nonsense with the media.
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im hoping they lose. i love to see cubs fans suffer
by HavocRox on Aug 27, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotta say im pulling for the rays. no respect for them still in the media. everyone is waiting for them to fall
by HavocRox on Aug 27, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't root for them.
Still bitter about Percival.
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why?
injuries happen. we all thought he was done. im happy for him.
by HavocRox on Aug 27, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha dude im the same way on a lot of things
by HavocRox on Aug 27, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This feeling could change
But the Tigers have kind of crushed my love of baseball this year. I don’t watch nearly as many other games as I have in previous years.
I’m sure that will change come the playoffs. But it might be a week or two.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 27, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having said that
The Cubs or Rays would be a great story, but I love the way the Angels play baseball.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 27, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rooting for the Cubs.
I would like to see Tram get another world title.
by rook34 on Aug 27, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs vs. D-Backs in the NL Final.
Trammell vs. Gibson
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Angels...
…have a Weaver. I can’t root for them, either.
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree ian, but i know i shouldnt root for the enemiesin our division, but i would love to see the AL playoff teams be the rays, white sox, angels and twinkies.
by HavocRox on Aug 27, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have read it that...
JV is tipping his pitches. Any of you seeing that?
by rook34 on Aug 27, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seeing other saying it or literally seeing it?
I think the layman baseball observer wouldn’t catch a lot of the stuff hitters and coaches notice.
But I haven’t seen anyone write that recently, either. It’s certainly one explanation in a season that’s crying out for them.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 27, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw it on one of the sites...I think it was someone on FoxSports.com.
Just curious.
by rook34 on Aug 27, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 years ago
Gary would have hit that one 450 feet.
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gary cant hit a beach ball with a red wiffle ball bat
by HavocRox on Aug 27, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could if he was in left field and not DHing.
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inge refuses to learn.
Strikeout. I’ve never understood why he always gets a free pass from the casual Tigers fan. He sucks. He’s always sucked. And he will always suck.
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hard as the guy tries...
he could not hit his way out of a paper bag.
by rook34 on Aug 27, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Schoppach goes yard...
I’m done for the year.
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a team that doesn’t care anymore. They’ve been done for the year for two weeks already.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Aug 27, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is bunk… I can’t take it anymore. I think I’m officially tapped out for this year.
Jeff
by cannonad03 on Aug 27, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Farnsed. Again.
I can’t do this anymore tonight. Seeya all later.
by Rogo on Aug 27, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
signs of life?
or just a post mortem spasm?
by HavocRox on Aug 27, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For Maggs
It could be a slump-buster.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 27, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unreal.
I think these guys have finally beaten it out of me.
by rook34 on Aug 27, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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