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Game 112: Tigers (55-56) at White Sox (65-44)

Detroit Tigers at Chicago White Sox, Aug 5, 2008 8:11 PM EDT


Nate Robertson (6-8, 6.06) vs. Gavin Floyd (11-6, 3.43)

Though it seems as if the Tigers are effectively out of the AL Central and playoff race after getting swept in Tampa, this three-game series with the White Sox could either put a more definitive note on that sentiment or keep this team in the limbo it's been swimming in for the past couple of months.  Perhaps it's delusional thinking, but what if Detroit wins two out of three games?  Are they squarely in the division race or is it just another hope-tantalizing tease?  Of course, if the Sox win or sweep, the bus toward 2009 can probably start moving.  (It's already warmed up.) 

Nate Robertson might find himself in a similar limbo after tonight.  Given his abominable performance recently (7.77 ERA in his last four outings), this could very well be his last start for the Tigers.  But what if Nate goes out and throws one of those games that shows just how good he can be when it all comes together?  Or what if it's just good enough, as it was the last time he faced the White Sox?

Honestly, what would be more frustrating: For Robertson to blow up yet again tonight or to pitch well?  A terrible game would mean a loss, yet perhaps push the Tigers into making a decision.  A good game might help, but really wouldn't really answer anything.  (Though it could possibly boost any trade value he might have.)

For the White Sox, Gavin Floyd is 3-0 with a 3.77 ERA in seven career starts against Detroit.  At first glance, this looks like a brutal series-opening match-up.

Those waiting for big changes in tonight's lineup will likely be disappointed.  Ryan Raburn gets the start in left field, but that's probably because he's 5-for-12 against Floyd.  No word on the bullpen, however.  Also, Ozzie Guillen has been suspended for two games for his role in Sunday's brawl with Kansas City.

South Side Sox has your SB Nation opposing view for this three-game series.

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Nate Robinson

I like Nate I just dont like his abilities..he seems like a good clubshouse guy, and mild mannered guy…early on his career he always seemed to never get any run support…now he just doesnt seem reliable..this match-up has me feeling the same way I did before his last match up against Cliff Lee..very low..(hopefully it works out like that game did)

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 5, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

LINE-UPS

Tigers

C Granderson CF
P Polanco 2B
C Guillen 3B
M Ordonez RF
M Cabrera 1B
G Sheffield DH
R Raburn LF
B Inge C
E Renteria SS

White Sox’s

O Cabrera SS
A Pierzynski C
C Quentin LF
J Dye RF
J Thome DH
P Konerko 1B
K Griffey Jr. CF
A Ramirez 2B
J Uribe 3B

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 5, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought that Leyland was pissed...

I was promised changes. Why is Renteria still playing? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

by Grant E. on Aug 5, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to read into Thames not playing

But Raburn in LF must be a match-up thing. Otherwise, why not Joyce?

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting Matchup

If you go over to the South Side Sox, they’ve got the stat line for both Gavin Floyd and Nate. Nate’s K rate is about the same, and his walk rate is better. The HR rate is about the same as well.

Looking at BABIP (Batting Avg for Balls In Play), hitters are apparently crushing the ball vs. Nate, to the tune of .346. (We knew this, of course…sigh) His career average is .308-worse than league average-but still, maybe some bad luck there. Or crappier defense. A little of Column A, a little of Column B.

Floyd, on the other hand, is carrying a .236 BABIP, compared to his .282 career mark. Good luck? Sox better hope it’s not defense, if they plan to play Griffey in CF for the rest of the year.

by cherub_daemon on Aug 5, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Renteria, changes?

I just dont think its much of an upgrade putting Santiago at short…now as far as Sheffield goes I really dont see how he is ever in the line up over Matt Joyce, righty or lefty I dont care Joyce has been rock solid this year..not to mention Marcus Thames??? why would Rayburn be in the line-up over Joyce or Thames? WTF

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 5, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't know if you guys caught this

But Leyland says Zumaya will pitch the ninth tonight, if the Tigers have a lead.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought Zoom was out a few days?

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

fair enough...

that time is a blur to me.

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like what I'm seeing from Floyd so far...

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Although...

I won’t feel comfortable with Nate on the mound unless the Tigers are up 14 or more.

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

sweet.

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow...

it looked like Placido muscled that one out.

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Magnificent

When Polanco hits it out, it could be a good night.

Of course, as Blake just noted, Nate hasn’t taken the mound yet.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Ryan Rayburn IN 60 games, 105 at-bats, 25 hits, 8 doubles, 4 home-runs, 13 Rbi’s,and A .238 BATTING AVERAGE

Marcus Thames IN 75 games, 224 at-bats, 55 hits, 10 doubles, 20 home runs, 44 Rbi’s, and a .236 average..

Matt Joyce IN 46 games, 140 at -bats, 39 hits, 10 doubles, 10 Homerun’s and 25 Rbi’s..and is batting .279

kinda of interesting comparison to me..if you double Rayburn’s at bats and his other numbers they would be close to Thames in most catergory’s except homers and Rbi’s..
so they lose power with Rayburn in Left instead of Thames BUT AND A MAJOR BUT..YOU DOUBLE JOYCE’S numbers and he hits for power and probably plays left as good or better then Thames…I dont see with the roster we have why joyce is not starting every day??

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 5, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

better question is why is sheff allowed to touch a bat at all?? Joyce should be in his lineup spot.

by HavocRox on Aug 5, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

so...

tonight’s game, first one to ten wins?

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Aug 5, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, man

I don’t know if I have it in me.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

im dreading the bottom also Ian

by HavocRox on Aug 5, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I feel like every out is a chore with not so nasty nate on the mound

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 5, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

The wind must’ve been blowing in on that O. Cabrera drive to right field.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow he has rodney disease tonight

by HavocRox on Aug 5, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Stupid Inge...

and all of his swinging and missing. Fly ball does the job there.

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

My condolences...

To anyone stuck watching Extra Innings with Hawk. I missed Polonco’s HR, so I just checked it out on MLB Gameday. Hawk sounded like he’d been munching on Ambien all day. God, the Sox broadcasts are boring.

by Grant E. on Aug 5, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

well, poo

Stranding Raburn on 3rd is hopefully not an omen for the rest of the game.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

How about one inning where a guy does not reach second, be nice to see that..it seems like a week since A Tiger pitcher went 1-2-3…

by PBURGTIGER on Aug 5, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

nice inning there for nate

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm a mess

I think a great game from Nate could piss me off almost as much as a bad one tonight.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

man, you are a mess...

if it happens, take as a sign of things changing. you’d take a bad 110 games out of him if it meant a good next two seasons right? positive ian, positive.

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love seeing Raburn playing

Personally, I think Joyce has cooled off a little bit. Raburn is better when he plays more often, but the skipper isn’t going for that. At least he can lay down a decent bunt and has some speed, plus he’s got a pretty good glove. My God, Carlos is cold as ice lately.

by densogirl on Aug 5, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Think so?

Never thought about him that way but I can see where some would. He hustles a little more than Brandon.

by densogirl on Aug 5, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I bet..

Robertson gives up at least five runs tonight. I know he’s at 0 right now, but he just looks like the same ol’ nate to me.

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow no matter how manny times

I’ve seen sheff take a huge rip like that… im still amazed

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

damn

Too hard!

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

you're

an idiot ^

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL Griffey, 0-2 2K against Nate Robertson. Terrible.

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by Tony K on Aug 5, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

at least neither nate nor gavin is as bad as edgar

uh nvm

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

alright boney

time to shut the fuck up kk thanks

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey

Had to come in just to celebrate Renteria’s two bagger.

by MSU4LIF on Aug 5, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

if ur serious

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

if not i apologize

grandy land nvm my bad for f bomb dont care anymore

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa

Grandy gone wild

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Aug 5, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

So...........

That’s what everyone was talking about in regards to Griffy’s defense, huh?

by MSU4LIF on Aug 5, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

what ever

Im not going to engage into a fight over a game thread

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

and...

that’s why Griffey shouldn’t play CF any more.

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Loved Dye's reaction to the HR...

Took a first step back and then decided “Uhh… nevermind. I’ll just stand and watch.”

by Grant E. on Aug 5, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Just because it's Nate

I’d like to have that sixth or seventh run on the board.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

bullpen still might let us down

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

indeed

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, Jimmy and Boner turned up the heat in here. And I like the Zappa reference MSU4LIF…

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by Tony K on Aug 5, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon, guys

Are you going to make me be that guy? Disagree all you want, but knock off the name-calling.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry Ian. ‘Twas creative though…

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by Tony K on Aug 5, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey boys and girls

Glad to be back.

I apologize for not being around for the disaster that was the early part of this roadtrip.

And in light of the posts, I’ll stay positive and say I feel good about the bullpen tonight.

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

ha

what a chubster

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

was

just about to comment on that Old man look at my life im a lot like you

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The same guy

yelled “strike 3” on the inside ball four….also funny

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Says the fan of a team who’s starting CF is KEN GRIFFEY. LOL, 0-2.

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by Tony K on Aug 5, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stuck in Cleveland...

The only baseball on is STO (SportsTime Ohio) Indians vs. Rays…I don’t want to keep watching the Rays…

Watching on MLB Gameday is worse than RBI baseball for the NES…actually it’s worse than “baseball” for the Atari 2600…

by SpartanNate on Aug 5, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Clete

0-for-4, 3 strikeouts tonight.

Jeff Larish has two home runs, though.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

damn

that means jeff “the stink” larish might get called up again

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Jon Kibler

took a perfect game into the 7th inning tonight for the Whitecaps…....remember his name….tall lefty.

by MSU4LIF on Aug 5, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

...against the Great Lakes Loons!

The Loons are only in their second season located in Midland, MI – just a stones throw from my residence in Auburn, MI. The Loons have been pretty much awful since they started. Lance Parish was their manager last year and got fired at the end of the year.

by SpartanNate on Aug 5, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Impressive

la de da Maggs did to get around A.J.

by MSU4LIF on Aug 5, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

He should have run AJ over

I dont care if he was anywhere near the plate. AJ should be run over as often as possible

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Aug 5, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea AJ is

a real douche

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by (TIGS) JIMDALE on Aug 5, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

My son has a question

What’s the green dude’s name behind home plate?

by MSU4LIF on Aug 5, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Gee....thanx Ian

Now he wants to know what he’s suppose to be…...gotta answer for that one?

by MSU4LIF on Aug 5, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

You gave him a chuckle Ian

But now he’s arguing with me that shouldn’t it be lint from his socks since they are the White Sox…...I told him Southpaw must have turned green from all the toe jam.

by MSU4LIF on Aug 5, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

@ Ian

Are you satisfied now that we have the 6 runs you think Nate requires?

by SpartanNate on Aug 5, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Pick it up Clete!

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by Tony K on Aug 5, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would someone named "MSU4LIF" be interested in Kibler...

Did he go to school around here or something? :)

Kidding of course. I live in Grand Rapids and have seen him a couple of times this year. Pitched 7 innings with 1 ER against Ft. Wayne and 6 shutout innings against Peoria. And has excellent numbers this year. The last I saw his ERA was around two, and he probably dipped below that after tonights performance. Fingers crossed for the future.

by Grant E. on Aug 5, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Kibler's ERA

I haven’t been paying close enough attention apparently. His ERA was 1.78 entering the night.

by Grant E. on Aug 5, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.....MSU grad Kibler is quite the prospect to keep an eye on.

He ended up pitching a 2 hit complete game shut out.

Alfredo Figaro got called up to Lakeland last weekend, but I heard he lost his first game tonight with them.

by MSU4LIF on Aug 5, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Grant

What part of G.R.?

Kentwood here.

by MSU4LIF on Aug 5, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I got a bit lost in my own place for a while.

I’m just west of GR, actually. In Walker. I’m going to GVSU right now.

by Grant E. on Aug 5, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool

GVSU – good school – good football team.

by MSU4LIF on Aug 5, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evening all

Nate isn’t stinking quite as much as usual yet

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 5, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Pete

You and your daughter have a good time at the ballgame tonight?

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

She's seven

and just read the first three Harry Potter books in 10 days.

by pfuhrmeister on Aug 5, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

when was the last time......

robertson made it through 6 innings with less than 3 earned runs?

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Little League?

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Aug 5, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sheffield

.256 with 2 runs in the last 9 games…..just saw that on Baseball Tonight

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

0-2 hanger

I could have hit that out

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

What I didn't want

Going into the 9th inning with a 1 run lead and Zoom closing. On the other hand, maybe we don’t have to worry about a 1 run lead.

by densogirl on Aug 5, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep saying this...

But Leyland must want to strangle his relievers.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Ian, do you think Chuck Hernandez should take most or very little responsibility for the bullpen?

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 5, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I had a good answer for that

I’m not a big fan of Chuck Hernandez, but I don’t know if it’s his fault that the relievers can’t or won’t throw strikes.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know it's not his fault

But I gotta think he should share some of the responsibility. He should be able to change their mechanics or their mind sets or something! I mean, what exactly, would ya say, he does here?

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 5, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Part of the problem

Someone at Hardball Times showed how Hernandez coaches his guys to rush their deliveries. That might be a big reason they’re having control problems.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can see it on his face.

Every time he goes out to make a change, you can see the stress and anger about to boil over. When Rodney was blowing the extra-inning game in Cleveland, Leyland was paing around the dugout looking like he wanted to take a swing at somebody.

by Grant E. on Aug 5, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paing Make that “pacing”

by Grant E. on Aug 5, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

No more Aqua

Too many fastballs right down the middle

by densogirl on Aug 5, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I just had to mute my computer

because the White Sox announcers made me throw up in my mouth

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

That is exactly what sucks

about MLB TV for your computer…......

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rod and Mario are biased towards the Tigers...

But at least when other teams score runs, they manage to sound somewhat excited. Hawk and Jackson always sound like they just saw somebody run over their dog.

by Grant E. on Aug 5, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The most annoying sports-related things in my life at this exact moment:

1) Tigers Bullpen
2) Hawk Harrelson
3) Tigers Bullpen
4) Brett Favre
5) Nate Robertson

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Raburn

Welp, I’m on the bandwagon. Free Ryan Raburn!

Play him at short!

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 5, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

The skipper

probably never thought of that, but I bet he’d be good.

by densogirl on Aug 5, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really???? Really????

Nate hasn’t had a win since 6/21?

(Mario just jinxed him)

by MSU4LIF on Aug 5, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Uh oh...

Farns is warming up.

by Rogo on Aug 5, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Check that

Farns coming in!! Take cover!

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 5, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

FARNSWORTH

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

yikes.

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Couldn't leave Seay in

Leland’s got to go with his formula

by densogirl on Aug 5, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Unfair...

Dombowski just jumped out of a window.

by Rogo on Aug 5, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Kyle doesn't want to be here

Best way to get traded or put on waivers, I guess.

by densogirl on Aug 5, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats Todd Jones

You are no longer the most hated member of the bullpen

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by rock n rye on Aug 5, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta love how Mario rubs it in

“Kyle Farnsworth gives up another home run”

by MSU4LIF on Aug 5, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

once again...

this game is the season all rolled up into one game.

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Farns...

...doesn’t have much luck in Chicago.

by Rogo on Aug 5, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't say what I want

That picture kind of says it all!

by densogirl on Aug 5, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Ferget it

Rod says the Tigers need to find a way to win this game. You gotta be kidding me.

by densogirl on Aug 5, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I may be alone on this...

but I kind of feel bad for Farnsworth. He was cooking in NYC and then out of nowhere gets traded. He was just finding his groove. Then he gets traded to a team he wants nothing to do with.

Is it just me?

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

find it hard to feel sorry for

someone who wants nothing to do with the team I root for

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 5, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can kinda see that side of it

But dude, you’re a professional. Play like you know how to, the other stuff will work itself out.

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 5, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

^^^

this isnt intramurals brother!

by dettigionswings'stons on Aug 5, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude's going to be a free agent

the one time you would like someone to play for a big contract…

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Aug 5, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we all probably underestimate how much of a jolt it could be to get traded when you don’t expect or want it.

But Farnsworth is also a professional.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

right.

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by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is just you....

Even if the trade throws you for a loop (see: Farnsworth/ESPN interview), you’re a professional ball player and you should go out and play 110%.

So, I don’t feel bad for him at all. I could care less if he wants nothing to do with the Tigers, he should have more focus for that.

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Farnsworth actually looked like he was going to cry when they interviewed him after the trade. I couldn’t believe it.

by bradm on Aug 5, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, goody

Zoom is warming up. Just what I envisioned.

by densogirl on Aug 5, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I love Zumaya

But I’d still bet $10 he gives up a walk-off home run.

I’m disgusted.

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 5, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the pitches from Rodney’s most recent blown save could have been classified as wild pitches

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 5, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle Farnsworth.

In my uneducated opinion, Kyle Farnsworth is a piece of shit.

I understand he’s a human being and has feelings like everyone else, but pitch like you care. I swear, cry me a freaking river that you’re no longer pitching for the NY Yankees. You know, I got switched to another team at work last month, and I continued to come to work and be professional.

And as an aside, why in the hell did Leyland remove Seay? Because he retired too many batters in a row? Does he know he has better numbers against righties? Am I too irritated to be leaving comments on a message board?

by bradm on Aug 5, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Amen

Leland and his constant fiddling

by densogirl on Aug 5, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Farnsworth

ALL I AM GOING TO SAY IS SOMEBODY IN MANAGEMENT BETTER DO SOMETHING
QUICK why would you pull your most consistent pitcher out of the pen and replace him with the likes of farnsworth what in the hell is leland doing that was T TOTAL STUPID MOVE

by STEVIEYz1 on Aug 5, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Management...

...is the one who traded the face of the franchise for the guy that gave up the home run.

by Rogo on Aug 5, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm as upset as everyone else

on a different tack though, how often does the offense put up 4-6 runs in the first few innings and then pack it in? With a crappy bullpen like this, they really need to add on. They should score a run or 2 off of DJ freaking Carrasco.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 5, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Aug 5, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

if anyone else is watching the White Sox TV feed

they understand the term “justifiable homicide” when it comes to Hawk Harrelson right now.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 5, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

YES

I was just about to say the same thing.

He’s fawning all over the most lucky play I’ve seen all year.

He and Farnsworth are definintely “professionals.”

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta be honest...

I’m a Tigers fan, and right now I live in NY, and let me just say what every Yankee fan has said for 2 seasons…

“Farnsworth sucks.”

I’m sorry I had to say that, since you don’t like to say that about your own team, but they were correct. A Yankee fan would see the trade as an absolute steal. They really gave up nothing to get Pudge. And to be honest, I saw him play last year against the Devil Rays at Yankee Stadium, and he was not only booed, but booed because he gave up a homer. Honestly, I watched the Yankees a lot for the last few seasons, and he gives up too many homers. Sometimes he can make a guy look silly on a strikeout, but he throws with a decent speed right down the middle far too often.

With all of the recent comments right now, it seems most people here already seem to be saying a lot of what the Yankee’s fans said. It just sucks that I am going to my uncles house and he is a Yankee fan whom I asked a few times about Farnsworth only to get the generic response that he sucks. Now that he’s on my team I can only imagine what he will say…

by syratiger on Aug 5, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

its something to be losing from the start. but to give us hope and then snatch defeat from the jaws of victory…man this sucks

by dettigionswings'stons on Aug 5, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

i bet if you looked...

you could find worse trades.

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is going to end badly.

Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.

by spotstarters on Aug 5, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

How long...

...til Mario starts drinking in the booth like Harry Doyle in Major League? He sounds so disgusted.

by Rogo on Aug 5, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

They are showing replays over and over

And they are acting as if he made that play…..

Mags basically hit the ball into his glove.

End of story.

I hate today. I do.

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

no crap, right?

a good third baseman easily fields that and makes the throw.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 5, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The worst part?

The White Sox and their fans will surely think this come from behind win is yet another sign this team is charmed.

Helps when you play the Tigers 34 times.

by bradm on Aug 5, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Scale of 1-10, 10 being most likely...

How likely is it that the White Sox win in the bottom of the 9th?

11?

12?

by bradm on Aug 5, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I say no

they win it in the bottom of the 10th, after the Tigers take a lead in the top of the 10th, because that’ll be more painful.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 5, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Dye will do it again

after Quentin gets walked

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Aug 5, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't wait to hear

the crowd’s reaction in Detroit when Farns comes in for the first time.

by Rogo on Aug 5, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I can already hear Left-Field's Finest

calling him Farnsworthless

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Aug 5, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

Happy to be wrong on Quentin. We’ll see if rock n rye was right about Dye.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's guess what Leyland said to Farnsworth

“If you give up another home run, I will put out my next cigarette on your pitching hand. Understand?”

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey

What happened last time we went to extra innings?

WAIT, DO NOT REMIND ME

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 5, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Kyle Farnsworth’s middle name is Lynn…FYI.

by bradm on Aug 5, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

WHO CARES WHAT IT IS HE STILL SUCKS

by STEVIEYz1 on Aug 5, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has a feminine middle name.

by bradm on Aug 5, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Willie Hernandez is still around or maybe senor smoke!!!!!

by STEVIEYz1 on Aug 5, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

the White Sox announcers are absurd

geez, take Juan Uribe off the field and immediately dip him in bronze to commemorate him playing third base better than anyone in history ever has. The gushing is insane.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 5, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course

according to our friends in the White Sox booth, Juan Uribe should win a gold glove…...

at least that is how they feel by how they are acting

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

And yes

Neither me nor the Walrus are going to stop complaining until this game is over

by TFerg1103 on Aug 5, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Little known fact

Fernando Rodney’s middle name is “Gascannuclearexplosion”

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Aug 5, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Why continue watching?

We all know how it’s gonna end. OMG, it really is Rodney.

by densogirl on Aug 5, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Rodney

ok so how many runs is chicago going to score before the first out is recorded

by STEVIEYz1 on Aug 5, 2008 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

they only need 1

by Wingz on Aug 5, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Call up Ryan Perry

what the F? He couldn’t do any worse.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 5, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Why these guys are so maddening

Blowing Griffey, Jr. away on a 99 mph fastball? That’s why Rodney still has a spot on this roster.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

At least tomorrow's not a day game

That turnaround in Cleveland took me two days to get over.

I am getting very old.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 5, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn't we institute a New Rule?

No multiple innings from a reliever, unless it’s Fossum or Lopez?

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Again

Where the HELL was this from Rodney@#?

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 6, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

this is why his recent implosions were more painful that Jones'

When Todd Jones implodes, it wasn’t a surprise, he has mediocre stuff. Rodney has GREAT stuff, so the implosions were almost worse.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 6, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alright, I'm done

Have to work tomorrow

Night all

by explosivo2k2 on Aug 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Dickerson and Price

are just blubbering over Rodney.

by densogirl on Aug 6, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Rodney continues to shut me up

But if he comes out for a fourth inning, I will scream.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Zumaya

The only one left in the pen. The question is where is Dolsi?

by ashmark on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

There he is! I guess before he was hiding when they showed the pen.

by ashmark on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn.

Ever see anyone swing harder than Sheff? Maybe Jeff Bagwell?

by Rogo on Aug 6, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry, Dane.

There HAS to be a servicable backup catcher out there.

by Rogo on Aug 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

We need a run here. Dolsi can’t pitch more than one inning lately without giving up a run.

by ashmark on Aug 6, 2008 12:42 AM EDT reply actions  

yuck

and other rhyming words.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s a Mike McClary saying if I’ve ever heard one!

by SpartanNate on Aug 6, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Polanco

Has he EVER hit two dingers in a game?

by Rogo on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Not that I can recall

I forgot we still have to face ‘em in the bottom of the 14th. Please, God, let us win this game.

by densogirl on Aug 6, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Polanco

second time this season

by kr41 on Aug 6, 2008 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn Twins

Took the lead over Seattle 7-6.

by Rogo on Aug 6, 2008 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Urp...

I just threw up in my mouth. Nice start, Joel.

by Rogo on Aug 6, 2008 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

wow

they never cease to amaze.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 6, 2008 1:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Two down.

I’d kill to hear what’s going through Leyland’s head…other than needing a smoke.

by Rogo on Aug 6, 2008 1:06 AM EDT reply actions  

how’s that for positive!

by Zappatista on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Holy. Fricking. Shit.

This cannot be happening.

I don’t believe what I just saw… and not in a happy way.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Should let Renteria pitch

So they could slam balls into his legs and maybe break one!

by densogirl on Aug 6, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe I'm saying this...

GET WELL SOON, JONESEY! WE (gulp) MISS YOU!

by Rogo on Aug 6, 2008 1:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I’d have to agree there…....

by Wingz on Aug 6, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now I’m actually a little bit glad that I couldn’t/didn’t watch the game. At least I got some work down while sneaking peaks at MLB Gameday and the BYB game thread…

Signing off from Cleveland…

by SpartanNate on Aug 6, 2008 1:16 AM EDT reply actions  

It doesn't get easier.

Good night, everyone. Until tomorrow’s disaster…

by Rogo on Aug 6, 2008 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

driving home, long day, finally feeling like something positive happening….and then this…..the end came as I was getting off the highway…..felt like ramming the damn car into the wall…..

that pic walrus just posted, yeah, that about sums it up….

CAN ANYONE ON THIS TEAM SAVE A GAME?????

by ahtrap on Aug 6, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

at this point it's just feeding on itself

the bullpen is really caught in a vicious cycle of failure.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 6, 2008 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

as the bottom of the 14th was unfolding

I was literally rehearsing my rant about their bullpen tomorrow to my co-workers. They need someone to break them out of it, probably a new face, and it’s apparently not going to be Farnsworth.

by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 6, 2008 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

All right kids, that's all for me.

I’ll see you all next year. I’ve got to stop watching these games. Every night this team finds a new and creative way to break my spirit. I’m done and so is our baseball team.

by Grant E. on Aug 6, 2008 1:25 AM EDT reply actions  

what does that sound like?

“Every night this team finds a new and creative way to break my spirit”

replace “night” with “week’....and you could be talking about the Lions…..

by ahtrap on Aug 6, 2008 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

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