Game 114: Tigers (55-58) at White Sox (63-49)
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 6:00 PM EDT
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Detroit Tigers at Chicago White Sox, Aug 7, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
Zach Miner (5-4, 3.77) vs. 
Javier Vazquez (8-9, 4.66)
Following a rather feeble effort in last night's 5-1 loss, could the Detroit Tigers display some pride tonight and salvage a win in this series? The spirit of Tiger Town has been broken, but if you still hold a kernel of optimism as you think about the future, perhaps this evening's starting pitcher might give you something to look forward to.
With a 2-1 record and 2.64 ERA after three starts, Zach Miner looks as if he's far better suited for the starting rotation than bullpen. And if the Tigers' lineup had been able to provide any offense for him last Friday against Tampa Bay, he might be carrying a 3-0 record into tonight's game. There stands to be at least one opening in the Tigers' starting rotation next season, and if Miner shows he's the guy to fill it, then the desperate act of changing his role will have yielded a happy accident.
Javier Vazquez has started three games against Detroit this season, and looked bad in the last two. In his last 13 innings facing the Tigers, Vazquez has given up 11 runs. But both of those outings were at Comerica Park. Vazquez shut out the Tigers over seven innings in April at U.S. Cellular Field. At home this season, his record is 5-3 with a 4.36 ERA.
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Starting Lineups
DETROIT
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, DH
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Matt Joyce, RF
7. Marcus Thames, LF
8. Brandon Inge, C
9. Ramon Santiago, SS
CHI WHITE SOX
1. Orlando Cabrera, SS
2. A.J. Pierzynski, C
3. Carlos Quentin, LF
4. Jim Thome, DH
5. Paul Konerko, 1B
6. Ken Griffey, Jr., RF
7. Alexei Ramirez, 2B
8. Nick Swisher, CF
9. Juan Uribe, 3B
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
this really is the line up everyone has been bitching to see
by PBURGTIGER on Aug 7, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
finally. it seems leyland has removed his head from his ass
by HavocRox on Aug 7, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not get hasty
He can always keep Miner out there for 130 pitches.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's up with the new picture, Ian?
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point i got home from work this morning and looked at justins pitch count, i just dont understand jim anymore. im starting to wonder if he has lost it.
by HavocRox on Aug 7, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yay...
i dig this line up.
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
renterias birthday
hppy birthday edgar! hope ya choke on some cake.
by HavocRox on Aug 7, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice inning there for zach
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wait
you guys don’t get the Lions live?
by MackAveKurt on Aug 7, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no idea. i think i can handle only one team tearing my heart out at a time
by HavocRox on Aug 7, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
Game didn’t sell-out, so there’s a two-hour delay on the broadcast.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i found out it is broadcast here in muskegon but not in HD
by HavocRox on Aug 7, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
have it on WNBC here. Flipping back and forth.
by Wingz on Aug 7, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As per usual, some more runs would always help
But Zach’s been looking good so far. I really hope Leyland is getting over any idea he had on Miner being a reliever.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d say hes way better then 2 of the other 4 starters….......
by Wingz on Aug 7, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In case anyone was wondering...
I accidentally had the White Sox record better (five games better, to be exact) than it really is. Thanks to Matt in Toledo for correcting me.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Big strikeout on Griffey!
Nice work.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And he does it!
Great job by Zach to get out of that jam.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice job Zach Miner
I got a new remote control today…...
I’m hoping this marks the Tigers turn around or else I’ll be getting another one in two months.
by TFerg1103 on Aug 7, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Zach's thrown 60 pitches through 5
Maybe he can keep that bullpen off the field for another inning or two.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
way to not strand him guys…..two out hits rock
by MI-FANinTX on Aug 7, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the longest...
zach has gone this year is 6 innings, think they’ll stretch him out to 7?
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the pitch count maintains
Yep.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, thanks
Yahoo! hadn’t updated
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Swisher
Although he killed us two nights ago, is actually a really funny guy.
After the Tigers knocked the A’s out of the playoffs in ‘06, I went to Dick O’Dowd’s in Birmingham and watched Nick Swisher get wasted and sing “Sweet Home Alabama” on stage.
One of the funniest things I’ve seen and only hours after they lost the series.
by TFerg1103 on Aug 7, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Forward down the field,
A charging team that will not yield.
And when the Blue and Silver wave,
Stand and cheer the brave.
Rah, Rah, Rah.
Go hard, win the game.
With honor you will keep your fame.
Down the field and gain,
A Lion victory!
by dettigionswings'stons on Aug 7, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, get over to http://www.prideofdetroit.com, get in the GameThread there
by explosivo2k2 on Aug 7, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not in Metro Detroit, it's just starting
by explosivo2k2 on Aug 7, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well im in houston
soooo i had to listen to the ticket
by dettigionswings'stons on Aug 7, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're working on a tape delay here in Detroit
Game was blacked out, since it wasn’t a sell out.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that any error is ever good
But bad timing on Santiago’s throw there.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My ADD is in full swing
2 games, 2 game threads, some web-based space games..
by explosivo2k2 on Aug 7, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Inge bailed out Santiago
Well, sort of.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ian
I know every interview with DD says otherwise, but do you think Porcello gets a look at all in September?
by dettigionswings'stons on Aug 7, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just my opinion
But I really don’t think so. The options are one thing, like you mentioned. But they might be worried about his innings by then, too.
Now, the relievers they drafted? I think some of those guys will come up.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I know its wishing, but if the tigers are at all close in a month. I would love to see them try to go for it no matter what. but that may not matter.
by dettigionswings'stons on Aug 7, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grandy loves Chicago
Maybe sitting him yesterday wasn’t a good idea, Jim.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ur right
Just saw he owns a Bar in Chi-Town
by jerseyboyinmi on Aug 7, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going to Vegas this weekend
Should I bet the Tigers to win the series againist oakland
by jerseyboyinmi on Aug 7, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't bet anything on the Tigers at this point
But that’s just my opinion
by explosivo2k2 on Aug 7, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
I’d say you should bet your money elsewhere.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lions
What about the Lions winning their divison or should I take the under in them not winning more than 6.5 games
by jerseyboyinmi on Aug 7, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d go over 6.5, not a division win though.
gumtime.mlblogs.com
by Tony K on Aug 7, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
Maybe now that Favre is out of the divison. Kitna is the best QB in the divison. Pretty Sad
by jerseyboyinmi on Aug 7, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you bet on college football?
I think Michigan might be better than people think. I’m biased, of course.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they’ll win 7-8
gumtime.mlblogs.com
by Tony K on Aug 7, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I agree
Although if Michigan gets their QB situation figured out, they coudl be a surprise.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ceasers Windsor is trying to get the Vegas style betting. Hope to see it before year end. Bet on everything then.
by Wingz on Aug 7, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah me 2- these preseason rankings are crap
they are ranked 54th on CNNSI behind UConn, Tulsa, and almost CMU. Although they never cover against cupcakes at home
by dettigionswings'stons on Aug 7, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to see Curtis hit one…
gumtime.mlblogs.com
by Tony K on Aug 7, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shut up AJ
I dislike that guy so much
by jerseyboyinmi on Aug 7, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yo Ian
Good to see someone else is as pumped for the film version of Watchmen as I am.
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 7, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, sir
I’m embarrassed to say how many times I’ve watched that trailer.
Actually, I don’t think I could count the times.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYI
The name of the song is “The Beginning is the End is the Beginning” by the Smashing Pumpkins. This is not to be confused with “The End is the Beginning is the End” which was the version that was released on the radio. The version in the trailer was the B side.
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 7, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So that was only on a single?
I know some have said it was on the ‘Batman and Robin’ soundtrack…
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was.
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, it was
but the version on the Batman and Robin soundtrack was The End is the Beginning is the End. Same words, just a faster tempo.
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 7, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the version in the trailer
is the slower B side, goes by the slightly different name.
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 7, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OzyH1VzDIA&feature=related
by dettigionswings'stons on Aug 7, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for passing that along
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah gives the full song
not in the trailer
by dettigionswings'stons on Aug 7, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so pumped
I actually downloaded the comics and am currently reading through them
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 7, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ian
You ever been asked to be on any of the sportsradio stations in detroit? I know Brian Cook was on Baligen’s show last week
by dettigionswings'stons on Aug 7, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Brian's got a book to promote
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
but sometimes they are little dry during the day
by dettigionswings'stons on Aug 7, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zumaya for the 7th
Interesting call
by explosivo2k2 on Aug 7, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gas can.
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lead off walk...
perfect.
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NO WALKS
For Miner. Give that man a beer.
by explosivo2k2 on Aug 7, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's been fantastic in his four starts
I mean, Miner has given the Tigers everything they could’ve hoped for.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't start celebrating just yet
They can still break our hearts.
by densogirl on Aug 7, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
God, ain’t that the sad frickin’ truth.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Fat Lady isn't even warming up yet....
let’s add a couple more
by TFerg1103 on Aug 7, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whatever they do
don’t leave Seay in for a full inning, that’d make too much sense.
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 7, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonder
who the closer will be today, Farnsworth or Rodney…...........such a big choice!!
by Wingz on Aug 7, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seay pitching the 8th leads to the question I don't want to ask...
Who pitches the 9th?
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well..
Rodney did pitch 3 innings of no-hit ball last time he pitched
by explosivo2k2 on Aug 7, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully...
A hypnotist convinces Rodney it’s not a save situation.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did Arizona trade Quentin?
My goodness.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When was the last time...
You’ve seen a single bullpen give up this many homers in one season?
by TFerg1103 on Aug 7, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
Thome might run slower than me. Big break for the Tigers.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was huge...
can’t make the tigers feel like they earned it though. just a dumb play.
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you.
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not that I'd condone it
But wouldn’t Thome destroy Inge in a collision at the plate?
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the ball got there so early...
inge just could have side stepped him and tagged the guy.
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you all see the video of pudge getting plowed at the plate?
by wepri31 on Aug 7, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looked like he was doing the home run trot
by Wingz on Aug 7, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to jinx...
but griff has looked awful this series.
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's on me...
sorry.
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Leyland
He must feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day. Another day, another torturous bullpen implosion.
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 7, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I might have to turn the channel
I’m not sure I can watch Rodney.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm so numb to this now...
I feel nothing.
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have faith Ian
have faith…..
He’s got another Tuesday night in him
by TFerg1103 on Aug 7, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats the odds
on him getting out of this inning with no more runs scored??
by Wingz on Aug 7, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1 in 3
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you raburn.
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
holy hell
oh ryan. he just saved me from getting pissed
by wepri31 on Aug 7, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great IM from Mike McClary
“What’s the big deal? Marcus makes that catch.”
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol. Oh yeah, of course Marcus does..
by explosivo2k2 on Aug 7, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK I want 10 insurance runs immediately, please
by explosivo2k2 on Aug 7, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RUNS
I really would like to see them score a few more cya runs
just 10 explosiv2k2?????
by STEVIEYz1 on Aug 7, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I've missed Ozzie
Walking Carlos Guillen to get to Magglio?
I know it sets up a double play, but… ah, Ozzie.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he does seem to hit into a lot of those
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
burned.
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by spotstarters on Aug 7, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Triple baby!
Thanks for the insurance, Maggs!
by explosivo2k2 on Aug 7, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it a coincidence that..
there’s no Sheff and no Renteria to kill rallies?
by explosivo2k2 on Aug 7, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just got here...
I feel like starting a chant…how ‘bout this!
by SpartanNate on Aug 7, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how does maggs get a triple? he never runs.
by wepri31 on Aug 7, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice To See
another team fall apart for a change!!!
by Wingz on Aug 7, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing Quentin can hit
He played that one badly.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Farnsworth
for the 9th??? He would be good for at least a couple dingers and still keep the lead.
by Wingz on Aug 7, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd do it
Save Rodney for the weekend now.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stood there like a house by the side of the road and watched ‘em go by
by densogirl on Aug 7, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not actually watching the game (can’t get it here in Cleveland), but I’m watching on ESPN Gameday. All three pitches looked like standard fastballs right down the pipe!
by SpartanNate on Aug 7, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inge
Why do we still have Inge?? I know he can play 3rd but…...
by STEVIEYz1 on Aug 7, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm…he can play third, but yet he doesn’t play third…
It’s unfortunate, I have always wanted him to be one of their better players, but he just isn’t.
by SpartanNate on Aug 7, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, Rodney only threw five pitches
So using him here shouldn’t be a big deal.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He doesn’t have it. Better yank him.
by densogirl on Aug 7, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can Rodney just get a save on principle?
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So how many games left with the ChiSox?
Three?
by explosivo2k2 on Aug 7, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CHECK OUT THE VIDEOS ON MLB Gameday!
For those of you who’ve been really sick of listening to Chicago’s announcers, watch all of the Tiger highlights on MLB Gameday. They sound so disappointed!
by SpartanNate on Aug 7, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They were willing Cabrera’s homer foul…
They called Guillen’s triple a double, and then they were blown away when he rounded second and headed for third.
When Granderson hit one to center, all they could say was, “stay in this park”
Nice!
by SpartanNate on Aug 7, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's so nice to see Ryan Field interview a Tiger post-game
I was getting sick of seeing him talk to White Sox.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 7, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha! ha! He always sounded professional, but you could tell he hated it.
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