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How Much Can the Tigers Pay a Closer?

Jon Paul Morosi's inbox at the Freep is apparently full of queries regarding the Detroit Tigers signing a closer, because he addressed the situation in two separate articles yesterday.  Perhaps the most important question Morosi tried to answer was whether or not the team has enough money available to sign someone who could supplant Fernando Rodney.

What do you say, Dave Dombrowski?

"We have been in a spot where somebody has offered more than we were willing to spend, or we did not have the same interest that another club had, or we just didn't have much interest in the guy."

Okay, that doesn't quite answer it.  How much have the Tigers been "willing to spend"?  Morosi tries to crunch the numbers, presuming that this year's payroll will be close to last year's $134 million (going on Dombrowski's word), and factoring in the salaries that will have to be paid for arbitration, and comes up with a figure.

[...] they should have at least $5 million to spend on a closer.

Well, well, well.  $5 million.  (And that's just a guess.)  That should get it done, right?  Of course, it wouldn't have with Kerry Wood ($10 million a year) or Brian Fuentes ($8.75 million), so that sort of explains the Tigers' current predicament.  Actually, it wouldn't have gotten Trevor Hoffman ($6 million), either.  (It was enough for Takaski Saito, though.)  But what about the relievers still available? 

Last year, Brandon Lyon made $3.125 million with the Arizona Diamondbacks.  His teammate, Juan Cruz, was paid almost $2 million.  Both players figure to be looking for raises, especially Cruz.  Could $5 million get him?  Probably, but if the Tigers don't think he has the control or experience to be a closer, then it's kind of a moot point. 

Could that money get Jason Isringhausen, the pitcher Morosi wrote about in his other article?  He was paid $8 million last season, the final year of a three-year contract.  No team is going to pay him that this year.  Nor should they.  He's coming off elbow surgery and a bad season.  And even while attempting to tout him, Morosi can't make much of a case, ultimately comparing him to... Todd Jones?

At his best, Isringhausen would resemble Jones. Tigers manager Jim Leyland would have a good idea of what to expect from Isringhausen, since Leyland worked for the Cardinals during part of his career there.

Would Isringhausen stay healthy for the whole season? Probably not, if you look at his recent history. But maybe he could have a decent run during the first half, as Troy Percival did with Tampa Bay last year.

Suddenly, Rodney doesn't sound so bad in comparison.  But maybe Morosi's right.  If Isringhausen can stay healthy, at least through the first half of the season, that might give someone like Casey Fien or Ryan Perry a chance to find his footing.  However, with "if" and "maybe" key parts of the sentence, that's hardly an assuring proposition.  And again, what sort of price tag would you put on that?

Morosi also raised the possibility of Jeremy Bonderman eventually becoming a closer, but how likely is that?  The Tigers need him in the starting rotation, for one thing.  And that will have meant that all other options failed.  Bondo is a "Break glass in case of emergency" scenario.  And maybe not even a good one. 

So is $5 million enough to bring in the kind of reliever the Tigers need?  Or is that a sobering, slap-to-reality figure?  And if Isringhausen is the only real option, should Detroit just sit on that money?  Or should that cash perhaps be saved for any acquistion that could be made during Spring Training or before the trade deadline?

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I know DD said that payroll will not exceed the $138M that was committed to the team last year, but Morosi’s math seems a little high.

If you add up all players who have contracts the figure comes to $108,455,000

Then there are 6 guys who aren’t elligible for arbitration but will likely be on the team: Gallarraga, Miner, Dolsi, Bloom, Fien, Raburn (or Larish). (Dolsi, Bloom and Fien are guesses, but as far as salary goes it doesn’t matter). If you assume each one of these guys makes on average $400K that brings the total figure up to about $111 million.

So, unless the remaining arbitration candidates make on average $4.6 million each (which is unlikely) I don’t see payroll reaching $134M. Lets assume even that Laird, Zumaya, Jackson and Seay each get $3M contracts. That’s $123 million.

Would DD really offer Verlander an $11M/year contract after just three seasons? Seems unlikely. Even Bonderman got his extension after four seasons and his first two years totaled just $13M.

by MacRae on Jan 15, 2009 5:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bondo

I think Bonderman is perfect closer material and have suggested as much for several years. His stuff is classic – power slider, fastball – and he’s proven himself unable to get through a full season as a starter completely healthy and effective. Let’s face it, he’s never going to be better than a middle of the rotation guy, trading off brilliant performances with letdown outings. 14 wins and an ERA just short of 5 is still his career best (!!).
Fewer innings is better for his health, while less “pacing” and the mind game (not his strong suit) of setting up hitters over the course of a game are eliminated.
As for the rotation, the Tigers need to understand that Minor is a starter, not a reliever. He’s been tremendously better in that role and he can more than fill Bonderman’s shoes in terms of production.

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by rings on Jan 16, 2009 7:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Closer

I can agree with Bondo as a closer as along we can replace him by signing a quality pitcher such as Sheets. Looper is interesting too. I think Cruz is worth a second round pick.

by Barry2 on Jan 16, 2009 8:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Rodney

The unfortunate fact that shall always plague Fernando Rodney is that he cannot perform in a pressure situation with the game on the line. To even attempt to put him into a closing position on a frequent basis will no doubt damage his fragile psyche.
This is not a good move to even attempt on a temporary basis.
Isringhausen,if healthy,is a far better choice and should be available at a price suitable to the Tigers new policy of reaching into their change pocket instead of their wallet.

by basepoint on Jan 16, 2009 9:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why Bonderman should not be a closer:

1. 994 career IP with a 4.74 ERA. Not ace material but not worthy of being banished to the bullpen. And as far as injuries go, he’s only had one season where he’s started fewer than 28 games and that was the result of a circulatory condition. Give the guy a break.

2. A career .911 OPS against in the first inning. Do we really want a guy who has a history of needing an inning to get settled as a closer?

3. $12.5 Million Dollars

While I’m not entirely against letting Miner start (depending on what the alternatives are) swapping Miner and Bonderman is insane. Miner may deserve a chance to prove himself as a starter but not at the expense of a proven starting pitcher with excellent stuff.

by MacRae on Jan 16, 2009 10:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bondo has great two pitches

Your absolutely right about the first inning, so why pitch him in the first inning. Bonda pitches best when he has to bare down. Being a closer might cause that. Why not experiment, your guarantee Rodney to blow x number of games anyway. In order for Bondo to be put into the closer position, Tigers would have to sign an excellent starter like Sheets for I would approve it.

by Barry2 on Jan 16, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So after knocking our second best pitcher into the bullpen because he has “proven himself unable to get through a full season” we pick up a pitcher who has only logged 66 more IP than Bondo has since 2003. Also one who has suffered back. leg and shoulder problems over the past four seasons.

There is no way this is happening. Bonderman has every right to prove that he can recover from surgery and be a starting pitcher. We don’t have the money to push $12m into the bullpen and then sign another starter. And finally, the prospect of expecting Miner to pitch 200+ innings FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS CAREER while a demoralized Bonderman trains himself to be a closer is about as risky, if not more so, than giving the closer job to Rodney.

by MacRae on Jan 16, 2009 12:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Solid bullpen could mean Division Contender

If DD leaves the game wide open or the Tigers have to play a full 9 innings game due to a bad bullpen, Tigers are looking at a 500 season at best. Then comes the fire sale July because of the lack of fans that do not want to show up at the park with type of bullpen.
If the Tigers Brass fix the bullpen by whatever means, Tigers have potential to contend. No bullpen, Tiger season is a write off.

by Barry2 on Jan 16, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Another knock on Bondo...

…is my biggest complaint about the guy (other than his inability to throw a changeup). Don’t forget that Jeremy is horrible in the first inning before settling down. Making him a closer is just turning the 9th into the 1st for him. Scary thought.

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by Rogo on Jan 16, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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