ALCS Game 4 Open Thread
by Ian Casselberry on Oct 20, 2009 7:45 PM EDT
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Last night, the Phillies took a 3-1 series lead over the Dodgers in the NLCS. Can the Yankees gain a similar advantage in the ALCS with a victory tonight, or will the Angels follow up yesterday's exciting 11th-inning win and tie this series up?
(By the way, has anyone checked on Jerry Hairston, Jr. after he made a big production out of running into the left field wall and falling down while chasing Jeff Mathis's game-winning double? He might still be laying on the warning track out there.)
The Game 4 starting pitchers are CC Sabathia for the Yankees and Scott Kazmir for the Angels.
Pinstripe Alley and Halos Heaven are your SB Nation sites to follow this evening.
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goooooo angels
I will have to see most of this from a bar, but for now I am watching at home.
by allikazoo on Oct 20, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and hello :)
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 20, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hope your day has been going better than mine
Although actually it was fine until I found out I have to spend $800 to have something fixed.
//sigh
Stupid houses are expensive creatures.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 20, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yuck
mine’s been ok. I’d rather stay in tonight but I promised a friend I’d go out with her.. hopefully the beer isn’t too expensive
by allikazoo on Oct 20, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
make her pay
Since she is dragging you out against your better wishes, she owes you!
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 20, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ehh. she doesn't know how annoyed I am
because I’m tired of hearing her groan when I avoid going out due to baseball, I’m pretending I want to go
by allikazoo on Oct 20, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, Angels -
Make me feel better after a crappy day by kicking the Yankees’ collective ass, please. I would appreciate it very much.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 20, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sounds like that fans showed up to this one
by allikazoo on Oct 20, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
That was quite a roar when Jeter got out.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 20, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Ninja assassin keys to the game?"
That just sounds hilarious.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 20, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
needs them for his chunky body
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 20, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never seen him at interleague
CC hitting must be comical
by allikazoo on Oct 20, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, CC's not that bad of a hitter
I believe he hit two home runs last year (one with the Indians in Interleague, then one later with the Brewers).
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
throw strikes, doofus
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 20, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
//bangs head on desk in frustration
Slower than a snail on downers.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 20, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More good Sizemore news
I don’t have time to stay long (paper), but I though I’d throw this out.
Kevin Goldstein on Scott Sizemore: “The guy can just flat out rake, as evidenced in part by his 17 total bases in his last three games, with one scout saying he could approach .300 in the big leagues right now.”
President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.
by demondeaconsbaseball on Oct 20, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
Subscribe to BP- it rocks.
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by demondeaconsbaseball on Oct 20, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what Sizemore would fetch in a trade...
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not as much
As he’d help us combined with the two draft picks we get when Polanco leaves plus the money we save.
Hell, I’d take him and the cash.
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by demondeaconsbaseball on Oct 20, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, you could trade Sizemore (sell when the stock is high, after all), let Polanco leave and collect draft picks
Will Rhymes is a second baseman, no? Plus, he’s a left-handed batter, and Tigers fans have been clamoring for more lefties. Sizemore’s a righty.
That way, you’d get draft picks, even more money saved, and some fresh blood in the organization. Although…if you package Sizemore with Perry and Guillen/Bonderman…
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that Sizemore's stock is all that high
Plus, don’t think I’d be ready for Rhymes to play big time anyway.
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by john.kmiecik on Oct 20, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I certainly didn't find him that exciting when I saw him with the Mud Hens
And the information that you guys have told me have kind of painted a picture of Dan Uggla with less power and a slightly higher average.
And Will Rhymes was just a name. I’d actually prefer someone with some D.
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sizemore’s stock is probably higher in the Tigers’ organization than throughout the rest of baseball, as a younger, cheaper player who can replace an older veteran.
And Will Rhymes seemed highly regarded last winter, but he needs to prove he can hit Triple-A pitching first.
by Ian Casselberry on Oct 20, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your assessment of Sizemore is actually what my initial gut feeling was...
…but everyone around here has been talking him up so highly that I was starting to doubt myself. Note to self: Trust instincts more.
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's come on a lot more lately, especially with these AFL results
So we’re all climbing on the wagon so to speak.
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by john.kmiecik on Oct 20, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't like gambling, I guess
I’d be terrible if I ever went to Vegas.
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's just a part of baseball
Eventually, you have to take a chance on some guys, like the Tigers did with Porcello this year. Or Galarraga last year.
Granted, you’re talking about Sizemore replacing someone who’s been very, very dependable. But with the team’s payroll as it is, they have to take a chance somewhere.
by Ian Casselberry on Oct 20, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evening all.
Saw Rick didn’t win the TSN Rookie of the Year, for what that’s worth.
by rook34 on Oct 20, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
:)
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 20, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
currently on The History Channel
The Universe, followed by How the Earth was Made (Asteroids) and Rogue Waves. :)
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 20, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My wife insisted that we change the channel to Celebrity Dance Fever...
or whatever it’s called.
by rook34 on Oct 20, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
may as well
Just checked and it’s 3-0 Yankees, one out, bases just loaded on a walk from Kazmir.
Bleargh.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 20, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so they took away that run?
by allikazoo on Oct 20, 2009 9:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Evening
I may be rooting for the Yankees (for strategic purposes), but I still want this series to go seven games because I want as much baseball as possible before it’s all gone (which means I also want the World Series to go the full seven). By the way, I turned on Gameday (not the TV) as soon as I got home, and the Yankees had the bases loaded with Johnny Damon at the plate and Gameday said “In play, run(s).” After a LONG delay, the more descriptive play popped up: “Johnny Damon flies into double play. Nick Swisher doubled off third.” How does THAT score a run? Someone care to explain?
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think he tagged before the ball was caught
by allikazoo on Oct 20, 2009 9:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still confused, but okay
I just turned the TV on, but based on the box score I looked at, Buck and McCarver’s mancrush on Sabathia must be through the roof.
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Jeter stuff is completely out of hand.
I can’t listen anymore. They make it sound like a 6-3 groundout sound like a climbing of Mount Everest while blindfolded.
by rook34 on Oct 20, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I said sound like twice in 8 words.
I’ll take redundancy for $800, Alex.
by rook34 on Oct 20, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of feel sorry for Jeter
I like Jeter well enough. He is a good player. But he is so overexposed that it causes most people to hate him simply because of all the media coverage.
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, not his fault.
But I still get nauseous whenever I see him. It’s just so out of hand.
by rook34 on Oct 20, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeter is like the anti-Rodriguez
Good player, good guy on and off the field, he’s a class act. He’s everything Rodriguez isn’t.
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by john.kmiecik on Oct 20, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, for God's sake.
We’re never going to hear the end of A-Rod now.
He’s having the second best playoff (Howard has been even better). But the press is going to just bludgeon us with A-Rod.
Which is fine, as long as they stop with the Jeter For Sainthood nonsense.
by rook34 on Oct 20, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I'm tired of hearing about Ryan Howard, but maybe that's cuz I'm rooting for the Dodgers
Also, I wonder…what if the Tigers were in the position the Yankees are in now, and instead of A-Rod, it was Cabrera with all those home runs. After what happened the last week of the season, how would the media try to portray him?
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Salvaged man" or "refocused" or "dedicated"
or, if you’re Jon Haymann of SI.com, you call him a drunk and ignore him.
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by john.kmiecik on Oct 20, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't generally contact writers...
but I fired off an angry email to Heyman, saying he was way over the line. Not surprisingly, I haven’t gotten a message back.
by rook34 on Oct 20, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, hopefully the Angels get this thing done in 7
Then I’ll never have to hear about it again.
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by john.kmiecik on Oct 20, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now we're getting into nitty-gritty rules that I am completely unfamiliar with
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm watching Mad Men with the Mrs.
What’s going on? Someone lose the DH again?
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by john.kmiecik on Oct 20, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird play
Yankees had runners on second (Cano) and third (Posada). Nick Swisher hit a ground ball back to the pitcher. They threw to the plate, got Posada in a rundown, Posada ran back to third at the same time Cano arrived at third. Napoli tagged both Posada and Cano. The ump initially ruled that both of them were out, then changed his mind and decided that only Posada was out.
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, would they drop it about Brian Fuentes and A-Rod in Game 2?
It was a one-run game. A-Rod was leading off the inning. Fuentes was NOT gonna walk him. That’s just not a smart move in a one-run game. I don’t care how big a power hitter A-Rod is. It was just a horrible pitch sequence to him.
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey all
What’s up with Posada’s nail job? Didn’t realize what he was up to but now it seems to be b/c CC can’t see his fingers.
by TigerFanInCleveland on Oct 20, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that's the reason
Other catchers will use tape or with rub chalk on their fingers.
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posada's stolen a base?
How does that happen?
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone probably just gave it to him for whatever reason
Only 17 SB in his career, only two in the post-season.
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by john.kmiecik on Oct 20, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, the Angels WERE making solid contact off Sabathia for a while there...
What happened?
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Charles woke up?
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by john.kmiecik on Oct 20, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad Swisher is out of the game
I kept confusing him with Damon whenever he was batting.
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK forget about the score for a minute, that play Aybar made was one of the most amazing plays I have ever seen…
by PBURGTIGER on Oct 20, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They're marvelling at Sabathia throwing 94 as he reaches a hundred pitches?
Big deal. Verlander can throw 100 mph after a 120 pitches. :-p
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fun fact:
Struggling closers has been a big theme of this postseason, along with crappy umpiring. The postseason has featured six blown saves from six different closers (Ryan Franklin, Joe Nathan, Jonathan Papelbon, Houston Street, Brian Fuentes, and Jonathan Broxton). The only remaining closers who have not blown a save are Mariano Rivera and Brad Lidge.
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At this rate we won't have ANY baseball this weekend :-(
Where am I supposed to get my entertainment?
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 20, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Weekend? How about a full week?
The World Series won’t begin until next Wednesday.
by Ian Casselberry on Oct 20, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, that sucked
I could see the game fine from where I was in the bar, but every time I spent more than two seconds watching my friend gave me a dirty look and would purposely talk loudly about something else. and she wonders why I stay in my apartment or at my parents’ with my dad to watch baseball.
by allikazoo on Oct 21, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not that it matters obviously
but annoyed about that AND the game’s outcome. :(
by allikazoo on Oct 21, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm off to bed (if there's anyone left)
6 AM wakeup time, and it looks like Tim Horton’s/Sonic/Arby’s for breakfast again because I keep forgetting to buy food. My pharmacy’s in a damn grocery store, for crying out loud.
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 21, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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