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ALCS Game 5 Open Thread

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Some Los Angeles Angels stand in the outfield during batting practice before Game 4 of the American League Championship baseball series against the New York Yankees Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2009, in Anaheim, Calif. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

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about 1 month ago: Some Los Angeles Angels stand in the outfield during batting practice before Game 4 of the American League Championship baseball series against the New York Yankees Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2009, in Anaheim, Calif. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

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The Phillies are in the World Series, after finishing off the Dodgers in the NLCS.  And like their southern California counterparts, the Angels are staggering in the ALCS.  Will the Yankees deliver the knockout punch tonight?  (Last time they had a big lead in an ALCS, they weren't able to.)  Or might we get a little more baseball between now and next Wednesday?  

The starting pitchers for Game 5 are A.J. Burnett for the Yankees and John Lackey for the Angels.

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Could this get more complicated?

I want the Yankees in the World Series (for strategic purposes), but I want this series to go seven games, so…I’d like the Angels to win tonight and Saturday and the Yankees to win Game 7.

By the way, Tim McCarver’s bit on A-Rod sucked and was hard to follow.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The worst I've ever seen was a swing that Vlad Guerrero took earlier in this ALCS

He swung and missed on a pitch that was going to bounce into the middle of the left-handed batter’s box.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahoy hoy

Watching Bourne Supremacy right now, this’ll end around 9:30 Eastern so I should be just in time for the third inning commercial break #78.

Shameless plug: Your 2009 Detroit Tigers: Carlos Guillen

2100 Woodward and Twitter

by john.kmiecik on Oct 22, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

howdy John

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not too much

I’m tossing together a bunch of handouts, books, and stuffed bacteria toys for work tomorrow. :)

A local community college has a Friday morning in October every year where a bunch of people with different jobs come in and set up some kind of display or something about their job and answer questions asked by as many as 2000 high school students bussed in from all over the area about what they actually do in their job, what kind of education is needed, good things and bad things, etc.

It’s the second year I’ve done it and next year I may be on my own as my boss is retiring in six weeks. Quite frankly I prefer it that way, though – I like not having to keep track of another person when I am somewhere.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stuffed bacteria toys? Nice.

My Med Chem professor brought stuffed virus toys to class that his niece had given out as favors in her wedding.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

www.giantmicrobes.com

SOOOOOOO nerdy. I have a bunch of them already, and my mom got Rabies, Giardia, and Heartworm for my youngest sister for Christmas (she is a veterinarian).

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's funny to see how the students act

Some of them clearly just want to talk to a couple people and then bug out, but some of them are honestly interested in talking to people and finding out what they heck they actually DO as a chemist or an engineer or a counselor.

I wish they did something like that when I was in high school.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same here

Maybe I wouldn’t be in my sixth year of undergrad after blowing two years trying to figure myself out.

2100 Woodward and Twitter

by john.kmiecik on Oct 22, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or else

You would have finished undergrad in 3 1/2 years, then made two unsuccessful stabs at grad school before deciding to work for a while until you figure out if there is some subject you really want to spend that much time, effort, and money studying to the exclusion of all else. :)

But I learned a lot anyway, so I can’t complain all that much.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in the same boat

I already have a BA in Media Technology and Arts and I would like nothing more than to be a filmmaker. But the odds of that happening are, well…now I’m in pharmacy school, and by the time I’m done, I’ll have had a full ten years of college education. I’ll also have three degrees (a BA, a BS in Pharmaceutical Sciences, and a Doctor of Pharmacy).

But I loved those 4 years at Denison University. Denison is soooooo much better than UT.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when I was in high school

I wanted to be a biological illustrator. What derailed that is the fact that I like to draw and paint for fun, and if it was my job to be an illustrator, it wouldn’t be nearly as much fun. So I guess I’ll just stick with science for a paycheck and art as a creative outlet on my own time.

Hey, at least it pays the bills. :)

I just haven’t found any subject yet that engages my interest so much to the exclusion of all else that I want to devote the time required for a PhD yet – plus there is the added complication that if I went into ecology, fieldwork is always extremely tricky – animals have a way of not doing what you want them to do so you can carry out a well-designed experiment, and missing data points are a given.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lackey makes me laugh

He looks like such an airheaded dim bulb (even if he’s extremely bright, he just doesn’t look it with his mouth hanging open on the mound).

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

with that face he HAS to!

That’s hilarious. I have to listen the next time he is interviewed.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way, Baroque, you might be interested in this

From Eric Stephen on TBLA after I signed off last night (thanking the Dodger fans for their hospitality):

Thanks to you and Baroque in particular, and all the Tiger guests we had this postseason. You were a welcome dose of perspective and a view from the other side, both in gender and rooting interests :)

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

awwwwww....

And they laughed when I told them they were a bunch of sweeties. :)

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damon is a potty-mouth :D

Dropped an f-bomb. Heh.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Laird would have had that ball.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Saw it. Loved it.

I can’t help but root against over-paid and over-hyped kids younger than me. Porcello gets a Tigers’ waiver.

by StringTheory on Oct 22, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

get used to it

Pretty soon, most of ’em will be younger than you…I may well have passed that point…

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by ahtrap on Oct 22, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm 26, so I'm right in the middle

It seems like about half the players are older than me, and half of them are younger (the Tigers closest to me in age are Cabrera, who is four months older, and Edwin Jackson, who is a month younger than me).

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm probably there next draft.

I doubt anyone would be drafted in 2010 at or above 23 years old.

by StringTheory on Oct 22, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah totally

plus rick didn’t get quite that much. a ridiculous amount yes.. but not freaking 15 mil

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by allikazoo on Oct 22, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scott Boras

(And I think his last name sounds like Baris Badinoff from Rocky and Bullwinkle.)

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wants to fleece Moose and Squirrel out of their money

Therefore one of his ultimate goals is to get the Seattle Mariners to overspend on all his clients. I’m not sure how he’ll deal with the squirrel issue.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll demand exotic nuts as payment.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just so you know, I checked minorleaguebaseball.com

There is no minor league team called the Squirrels. Damn, I was hoping to go that avenue.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no way!

With all the crazy names, no one is something like the Rapid City Rabid Squirrels?!?

Travesty.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

I even looked at the teams in the Mexican Summer League and in the Caribbean winter league teams for “Ardillas.” No such luck there either.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only reason we got him so late

Teams feared that he’d demand crazy money to sign, otherwise he wouldn’t have fallen so far.

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by ahtrap on Oct 22, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

listening to the radio to the early part of the game on the way

announcer pointed out that the record for consecutive XBH was 4, and that he’d come into the game with three. He screwed up and hit a single…otherwise it might have been 5 in a row

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by ahtrap on Oct 22, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dogs have no sense of perspective where their own size is concerned

My sister’s old dog Foster still thinks he is a little tiny puppy – and he is a Rottie, so he hasn’t been a lap dog in a long time.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's too bad MVN has a short archive.

Samara has a great picture of Mathis getting ogled by Tom Brennaman.

by StringTheory on Oct 22, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

By the way...

Was it one of you guys who objected to the Little Caesar’s commercial on the radio featuring the stereotyped “sassy black woman?” We have a similar commercial running on the radio now only it’s a political ad in support of Ohio Issue 3 (casinos). And it’s even more annoying than the Little Caesar’s ad.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wasn't me

But advertising stereotypes do annoy me.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm watching dugouts on postseason.tv

posada just had his two middle fingers painted white. I assume for giving signs. it just looked funny :)

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by allikazoo on Oct 22, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Posada's the only one I know of who paints his fingernails

I know Pudge (as well as a few other catchers) would put white tape around their fingers if the pitchers couldn’t see the signs on occasion. Other catchers will rub chalk onto their fingers.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the subsquent mobster one

Reminds me of those old Emerald Nuts commercials they used to show during the Superbowl

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked the Emerald Nuts commercials

They were so very surreal.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Evening all.

Nice to see the Halos showing some spine.

by rook34 on Oct 22, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least he wasn't half naked.

And he left pretty quickly. When guys run around like morons and delay everything I want to smack them myself. If I wanted more delays I’d ask MLB to show me more commercials, for Pete’s sake.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I don't know if there are any Ralphie's up in Michigan

But the ones around here are running a contest where you can win tickets/limo service to the Ohio State-Michigan game, but in the commercial, they never refer to it as “the Ohio State-Michigan game.” They only say that you can win limo service to “The Big House” and tickets to “the big game.” Is this weird?

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They may need NCAA approval...

or the approval of U of M, since they are the host. The NCAA doesn’t care much about cheating but that sort of thing does pique their interest.

by rook34 on Oct 22, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys might find this amusing

Whenever I am trying to type something about the Yankees, I have a tendency to hit the “T” key instead of the “Y” key. It gets annoying.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on, Lackey.

You can do this. In spite of the crappy umpiring.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Go get him, Mike.

Lackey is just about to melt down.

by rook34 on Oct 22, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

almost a baserunning blunder

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's what I'm thinking

Because he left the base and was no longer entitled to it – he could be on either third or home, so he had to be tagged out.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good job by Lackey.

Did everything the Angels could have hoped for – if they can’t win the game with that effort, they don’t deserve it.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He was pissed to get pulled.

“You gotta be shitting me, this is MINE.” “Don’t!”

And it looks like he was right.

by Grant E. on Oct 22, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that, too.

He only needed to get one more out. Should have given him the chance to get out of the inning on his own.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOOPS.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Blue.

Angels should have been out of the inning. Horrible call hurts them yet again.

by rook34 on Oct 22, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it was a make-up call.

There was a ball off the plate called a strike earlier in the AB.

by StringTheory on Oct 22, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

meanwhile, out in hte parking lot

Lackey is busily “fixing” the brakes on Oliver’s car.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At some point...

Scocsia has to come out of the dugout with the Gatorade cooler. This is ridiculous.

by rook34 on Oct 22, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That wasn't a bad pitch.

Hell of a piece of hitting.

by rook34 on Oct 22, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clearly

The Yankees are THRILLED that Lackey was taken out.

Bleargh.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how quickly things change, eh?

How good was the 3-2 pitched that Lackey was all up in arms over? I’m assuming the ump blew it, but I didn’t see any of the replays.

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by ahtrap on Oct 22, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was right on the corner of the zone, I think.

He was flabbergasted he didn’t get it – and usually when a pitcher has control, he does get that pitch.

I loved how furious he was at being pulled from the game. And he was right, too.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This Symbicort commercial creeps me out

You never actually see the woman, and the silhouette is not synced up to what she is saying

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

like a ghost person

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jered Weaver

Looks so much like Jeff it’s amazing.

Although with his hair cut short, his ears look enormous.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder why he cut his hair

I still don’t think it’s him at first glance

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he was just got tired of it

And it was hot and sticky in the summer. I used to get my hair cut short in the summer – then I grew it out far enough that I could wear a ponytail again.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

That’s a fair point. I guess the players can’t wear ponytails, because I never see them. My hair goes to the middle of my back, and I’ve had plenty of experience fencing in full gear for two hours at a time in a hot, sweaty gym or a hot, sweaty racquetball court, and the helmet has a piece in the back that makes it impossible to wear a high ponytail. And there was a girl in the Fencing Club with me who had even longer hair. I’m not sure how long it was, since she always wore it braided, but the braid went down to the middle of her thigh. Most of us hung onto a strap in the back of the jacket with our non-sword hand while fencing. She hung onto her braid.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 22, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now THAT was a nice job of pitching.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This game is thoroughly entertaining.

by StringTheory on Oct 22, 2009 11:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a fun game.

Time for me to crash – I have to get up early. :)

Talk to you guys later.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Same here

Six AM wake-up. Not fun (Saturday I have to get up at 8). Night!

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