Game 161: White Sox at Tigers
Chicago White Sox at Detroit Tigers, Oct 3, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
Freddy Garcia (2-4, 4.78) vs.
Alfredo Figaro (2-1, 5.74), 7:05 p.m. EST
Well, if the Tigers wanted to make this weekend simple, they did it by losing last night to the White Sox. Detroit could really only afford to lose one game, if they wanted to keep the AL Central completely in their hands.
Any chance for some help went up in smoke with Zack Greinke and the Royals just losing 5-4 to the Twins. So if this team needed to feel a wall against their back to give them some more urgency, the wall is there.
Everyone in Tiger Town would certainly appreciate a repeat performance from Freddy Garcia. Last Saturday in Chicago, Garcia was cruising with a 5-0 lead through four innings, having only allowed one hit. The Tigers chipped at that lead in the next two innings before blowing it open with a four-run seventh.
That ended Garcia's streak of six consecutive quality starts. His career record at Comerica Park is 6-3 with a 4.09 ERA in 11 starts.
Alfredo Figaro gets the spot start for Detroit after Rick Porcello's turn in the rotation was pushed back because of Monday's rainout. Jim Leyland really didn't have much choice in picking someone to fill in, but Figaro's outing in last Saturday's comeback win might have strengthened that belief. Figaro's 2.2 scoreless innings (with only one hit allowed) kept the White Sox down while the Tigers rallied.
One big question, however, is how much stamina Figaro will have, as he hasn't pitched more than four innings since late June.
The Tigers' batting order pretty much the same as they did last night, except for Adam Everett starting at shortstop. Aubrey Huff is in the lineup, as he's 10-for-24 versus Garcia with two homers and four RBIs. He's switched spots with Carlos Guillen, however, and is now batting sixth.
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Look at it this way.
If you have to rely on the Kansas City Fucking Royals, on the last weekend of the season, to help you win the division… there is a good chance that you do not deserve to win that fucking division.
And that has been, “A Little Tough Love” with Frisbee Pilot.
it's situational hatred for me
I’d hate any team in the way, no matter how cuddly and spunky and cute they were. Just get out of MY TEAM’S WAY!!
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
The Twins are not cuddly and spunky and cute
They’re boring and annoying
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, but even if they WERE cuddly annd cute
I’d hate them because they are an obstruction.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Cuddyer's bat toss gave me some hatred.
As well as the red-bearded tool with the white-board. He pissed me off.
in the stands?
I saw that, too. What’s up, you couldn’t figure out what to put on the sign beforehand?
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
^ ^ ^ THIS
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
2006
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
At least there was the Wild Card to fall back on there
I can’t argue with how the postseason worked out
This sucks no matter what
JV has to pitch tomorrow. Thus, even if they win the division, he’s only available for Game 2.
I just know...know...that they are going to blow this thing
maybe it’s just residual 1988-2005 angst talking, but I have no faith in this club
MLB Network is replaying Mets/Reds from 1999 when Mets clinch playoff spot
Sean Casey just broke his bat in half after K’ing in the 9th
we have problems.
Let’s go get em anyway.
by rook34 on Oct 3, 2009 6:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Gardenhire pitches Blackburn on 3 days rest
because he’s focussed on winning the division. Leyland holds back his best pitchers and goes with the rookie Figaro because he is focussed on beating the Yankess (a team that is likely going to clean our clock no matter what we do).
Translation: Leyland needs to get his head out of his ars.
Pitch JV tonight, Porcello tomorrow and stay the hell away from the metrodome.
Sorry – just had to vent!
Blackburn is a veteran and Porcello is 20 years old
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
And Blackburn didn't throw an excessive amount of pitches in his last start
JV threw almost 130
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't want to pull him from the game
He’s scary when he’s focused.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I disagree
He was hedging his bets, making Porcello available in the event of a one-game playoff and figuring that winning 2 of 3 with Jack/Verlander was likely. I can’t fault him.
you mean winning 2 of 4
with Jack/Verlander/Greinke.
Zack Greinke was our best starter this weekend.
But he wasn't good when it mattered most
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Fiiiiiiiigaro
Fiiiiiiiigaro.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Everyone says its all on Figaro
Figaro this Figaro That
If you’re offense just plays well and destroys Freddy Garcia, it won’t really matter how Figaro does….
no?
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 3, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
offense ... destroys ... ?
I’m not sure those words belong together for the Detroit Tigers.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Unrelated
If anyone is watching Georgia/LSU, you just saw two completely asinine excessive celebration penalties.
So...go Detroit/Clemson/Princeton/Memphis???
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
there are an awful lot of Tigers mascots
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Ah, I forgot about Auburn
And that Division III team that threw 15 laterals in a game last year.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Oops. That was 2007. My bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1CQPCf55LA
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's hope it brings good luck
And let’s hope I can make it through the game. This KC/Twins thing threw off my drinking schedule…
aaaaahhhhhh ....
I’m so happy to hear Mario and Rod instead of the Fox idjits.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Daron Sutton is normally the play-by-play guy for the Diamondbacks
He and Mark Grace are really funny when the D’backs lose, especially if it’s a blowout.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
but does his dog have more interesting tweets than he does?
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
his dog is named Espy?
lol :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
That's better than naming your kids that
I remember ESPN doing a story about people naming their kids Espen or Espn or Espyn.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
people who give their kids odd names
Should just start investing in a mental health treatment fund along with the college fund.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
you're cool
But I hate your team. Just had to say that.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
well, it's true
On both counts. I hate the Twinkies, but I like fans of any team who have the class to not act like jackasses on an opposing team’s board.
It’s one thing to gloat among your own people, but it’s impolite to go to someone else’s place and do the same. Simple courtesy.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
if I go to another team's board
I don’t yell at them for trash talk and stuff, because that’s their internet home. I offer quick condolences if my team beat them in a playoff series, congrats if they were the winners, and go back to my own people to exult in victory or cry on each other’s shoulders.
I hate, HATE the guys who gloat right after a loss. It’s classless – give them 24 hours or so to get over a loss, and then most fans are okay with handling the trash talk from opponents.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I hate them, too
But who are they playing?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
How's this for a good omen gang?
Last time they faced Freddy was about a week ago, Sept. 26th. The Tigers won 12-5, scored 7 runs off Freddy Garcia, and the winning pitcher was….. Alfredo Figaro.
back in the old days when it came to the playoffs this 5 days rest business
was baloney. You used your best because there was no tomorrow.
Mickey Lolich won three games in 7 games in 68. Verlander and Porcello should be able to do pitch on four days rest if needed.
But I agree on one thing. Huff needs to be wished out into the cornfield
good man :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Ack
It’s like our guys are an asthmatic running a marathon and they’re in the lead with the finish line in sight but the bronchi are seriously tightening up.
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perfect image!
And made me laugh out loud, too.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I am drinking Labatt's
because it was geographically the closest beer I could find to Detroit. I will also now listen to the Stooges and MC5 for inspiration.
We had this exact same matchup a week ago (sort of)
Tigers scored 7 runs off Freddy Garcia, and Alfredo Figaro was the winning pitcher. How crazy is that?
figaro is gone
At the first sign of trouble.
by rook34 on Oct 3, 2009 7:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Can the Twinkies lose a freakin' game please?
As a matter of fact, can we win one?
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Which channel, and are they repeating it?
I’ve never seen it before.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
does that mean that objects will be flying?
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
hee hee
I remember 1984 when the Cubs were in the playoffs. (My mom is a Cubs fan.) My sister and I would walk home from school, and we’d find mom crouched on the living room carpet in front of the television, bouncing up and down with excitement and yelling “come on, Cubbies!”
She’d barely notice when we came in the front door unless we got in the way of her view of the television. :)
(She is also a firm believer that if a pitcher loads the bases with no one out, she needs to go in the next room until he gets out of the inning.)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
In honor of Alfredo Figaro...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_blOQEu9ws
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That's okay
Last night they interviewed Cabrera and most of the questions were about Figaro. It’s like they thought Miggy was the pitching coach.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Reviving a practice I last partook in during the 2006 Playoffs
Eye of the Tiger/Detroit Rock City back to back
Good choice
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
we gonna' need a one game playoff to finish off the Twinkies?
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
We have to win a game first
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
rodney and figueroa are 2nd cousins????
can we get a coaster for Figueroa???
So does our lineup
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone know what channel this is on? I sit nationallt televised?
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
it's on Fox Detroit for me, but I'm in Michigan
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
you're late
Some of us have been messes for a while already.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I have pizza
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Now they ARE playing Detroit Rock City
When I went to a game in August they played some hip hop music when the Tigers took the field
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on a scale from 1 to 10, I'm a 9
Actually, 9 squared.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
epic day for college football.....
please let it be an epic day for the tigers
by okie for michigan on Oct 3, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
Mark Carlson tends to have a tight strike zone
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
adrenaline
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I've been thinking about the Figaro start
And there is only one explanation: Jim Leyeland had a divine revelation. So okay, I cede this to a higher power.
he's got good stuff
With younger pitchers in particular how they respond to pressure is always a question, but he has good stuff – it isn’t as though they are going with a crappy pitcher.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I believe that's the first time Pierzynski didn't swing at the first pitch
That I’ve seen him, of course
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blondie flies out
Put away the sharp things!
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
the blonde hair increases his douchiness by a factor of at least 11
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
better than getting drunk and hitting something
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I gotta go out to Nuit Blanche in a few minutes.
A cool event, for sure: http://www.scotiabanknuitblanche.ca
This means I won’t be able to follow the game, except on my friend’s iPhone. (I normally hate cell phones and don’t have one myself, but I’ll make an exception tonight only.)
I stand by what I said at the top of this thread. Penultimate game, and you’re putting someone out there who hasn’t gone four innings all year? Mighty shaky ground for a division winner.
I have hope, but not a whole lot. I’m scared. I’m a little disgusted. I’m hungry, and can’t wait for some delicious pan-Asian cuisine tonight before wandering the streets of this fair burgh all night.
Go Tigers. Win one for the Gipper.
Gipper = Ernie Harwell
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
enjoy the food
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
well, the Cajun music didn't help the Royals
So I switched to one of my favorite CD’s I have.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
trapped at a wedding with no bar tv.
How does figaro look?
by rook34 on Oct 3, 2009 7:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'd feel bad about spending most of the day on the computer
Except if I wasn’t online, I’d have still spent the whole day in front of the television, so at least this way I have a support group instead of watching baseball alone and scared and miserable. :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
it's very important
To have friends to talk you back from the ledge when things get spooky. :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Same here
I hate being at work or school while games are on. Even if I’m able to get word of the score, I can’t talk to anyone about it.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
dammit!
Quentin homer. At least it was a solo shot.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
That looked like it was off the plate away
How did he pull it with that much authority?
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Gallaraga and Ni warming up
And that just baaaarely got through the infield.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
it's still early
Hang in there.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
don't make me open a beer
i’m supposed to spend this weekend sober because i have so much schoolwork to catch up on
by okie for michigan on Oct 3, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions
K for Figaro
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
wtf? hit the bullpen before it's REALLY too late
by okie for michigan on Oct 3, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
He's going, he's going
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Leyland heard you
Walking the number nine hitter not a good sign.
Here comes Ni.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Blackburn didn't throw 130 pitches on Tuesday, though
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Who was it that said JL was taking advice from LaRussa?
we’re about to see 3 pitchers per inning here
not as long as you keep your good stuff
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
That depends on if Armando's healthy or not
So far, it looks like not
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
got exactly the ground ball he wanted
How often does Polanco bobble a ball like that?
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Beckham up
Make some crack about soccer! I’ll bet he hates that. :D
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
THROW STRIKES, ARMANDO, PLEASE.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I'm sure he will
He won’t pitch anything at all like the last time the Tigers faced him.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
could have been worse
2-0 is manageable.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
because the Tigers already have a hit
And usually that doesn’t happen until much later in the game.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
especially in the pennant races!
//beats head against wall
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Huff?
Well, I guess sometimes the statistics aren’t just damn lies.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I wish it was Pujols
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
okay
now let’s make a single actually be worth a crap
by okie for michigan on Oct 3, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions
only the second inning
and I remind everyone, the Tigers scored 7 runs on Freddy a week ago. Lot of baseball to go.
yes
it looks like he took his dentures out or something
by okie for michigan on Oct 3, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes it feels like August.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
between this
and the OU-Miami game (hardcore OU hater here) it’s going to be a long night
by okie for michigan on Oct 3, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions
That is University of Miami, right
Cuz around here, when someone says “Miami” you’re supposed to think Miami University of Ohio.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It is really mind-blowing how poor this team is offensively.
Watching this team try to score is like watching a constipated dog straining to poop.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
well, it's true
They just try and try and try, the effort is there, but nothing comes of it. If it wasn’t for the pitching they would be comfortably resting in 3rd in the division.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Time to do some laundry
I’ll be back. I just can’t bear to watch you guys rip into Armando.
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ah
I love self-deprecating Detroit fan jokes
by okie for michigan on Oct 3, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions
oooh, Gerald. :(
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
This is just getting ridiculous
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
my state of mind at this wedding....
Too miserable to drink. Considering diving through the wedding cake like the guy in the November Rain video.
by rook34 on Oct 3, 2009 8:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't get it either.
It’s just bizarre.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I'm back
That was so totally NOT Armando’s fault. But I still hope that’s his last inning, cuz he doesn’t have the stamina right now.
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he has pitched pretty well
and Jim has already dipped into the well 2 time tonight
I hope he has it in him cause if they lose his season is done
Well, from what I've read and heard
The elbow starts to flare up after a bit
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Historic
NO TEAM has lost a May- OCT division lead. EVER!
well, the Tigers narrowly avoided making history in 2003
Hopefully they can also avoid it this season.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Well, it brought up the only guy in the lineup hitting consistently right now
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
maggs looks like a completely different person w/o the hair
by okie for michigan on Oct 3, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions
With as cold as it's been
I bet he’s missing the hair right now
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
attention!
Squanderage in progress!
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
2 outs already though
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Garcia needs to throw more of them and walk more people
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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Losers!
Way to go guys! The Tigers are going to blow this. They may end up in a tie. But I see an ugly game on Tuesday in the Metrodome…We had our chance and blew it. Say hello to another long off season.
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