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Game 161 Overflow Thread

Ron_swanson_tiny by Ian Casselberry on

So far, this game has a dreadfully familiar feel to it.  The Tigers' lineup isn't generating much offense, and taking a chance with Alfredo Figaro starting this game didn't work out very well.

Can the Tigers bats do what they did to Freddy Garcia last Saturday?  Or will there be a tie in the AL Central by the end of the night?

White Sox 3, Tigers 0 going to the fourth inning.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of the Bless You Boys writing staff.

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If I had a nickel

for every time I heard “Tigers threaten but do not score” I could buy a lot more BYB T shirts!

by NCDee on Oct 3, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I smell a tie for the division. :(

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

the tigers are being way too agressive

swinging at garbage.
garcia hasnt established shit…be patient!!

by Tigersin2010 on Oct 3, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Why am I seriously pissed

that Galarraga didn’t get the start tonight?

by ChrisDTX on Oct 3, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice job, Armando

But that’s gotta be it, right?

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meijer commercial

That dude’s head is as big as Polanco’s

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

haha.

I thought the same thing a couple days ago.

by StringTheory on Oct 3, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

the saddest thing is

That this entire season, the pitching staff has deserved better. The whole time.

The offensive “offensive” players should buy each of the pitchers a house for making them not look quite so horrible all year long.

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Time to take back the game.

Fasten your seatbelts ladies and gentlemen.

by wepri31 on Oct 3, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

worst offense EVER

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Hear that????

If you’ve lost Baroque, you’ve lost the country, Tigers!!!!!!!!

by NCDee on Oct 3, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Seriously, this is so comical.

Every other team can get people on with a walk, or a single, or something, and then someone hits another single, and then a double, and then a run is scored.

With the Tigers, it is a single, followed by three straight outs that never leave the infield. This team can’t even get long fly balls until after there are already two outs, so no runs scored on sacrifice flies, either.

We have just proven how predictably bad they are.

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tigers luck has run out.

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Sweet Perry is warming up

we haven’t seen 5 straight walks in a while

by ChrisDTX on Oct 3, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

As I predicted...

Armando has run out of steam.

Not bad while he was in there, though.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Whatever.

When they epicfail this season, the sun is still going to rise in the east and set in the west. And I’ll still be a Tiger fan in ’10. So whatever.

by ChrisDTX on Oct 3, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe next year we will have an actual offense

That will be so exciting!

And I think I’d better change my signature.

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I refuse to believe there is any option other than winning the division.

That’s just what’s going to happen. They don’t have a choice.

by wepri31 on Oct 3, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

And on top of all this

My ISP is wimping out on me again tonight. Time for a phone call on Monday to cancel service.

by NCDee on Oct 3, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Ryan Perry

trying to take my advice from Thread #1

by ChrisDTX on Oct 3, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

So

Regardless of how this season ends…

Do we need a new hitting coach for next season?

by actioncuse on Oct 3, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

yup

Even if he has nothing to do with anything, the hitting coach takes the fall for a crappy offense. It has ever been thus.

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think blaming the hitting coach is overrated

this is just a team that is aging. Guys in their mid-30’s screwed the offense with either injuries of ineffectiveness for much of the year: Polanco, Guillen, Ordonez…

by ChrisDTX on Oct 3, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

HEY! A DOUBLE PLAY!

that’s something good at least.

by wepri31 on Oct 3, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

poor Laird is having no chance

Pitchers aren’t helping him at all.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

did rios really “steal” a base

by actioncuse on Oct 3, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

oh, no!

I think they are suck on the “G is for groundout” page.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

//sadness

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

The Twins took off.

As I was afraid they would, actually.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

detroit just can’t win unless there is enough pressure. Just wait til tomorrow when its all on the line then you’ll see

by tgoc on Oct 3, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

deadline trade recap

Twins: Cabrera (on fire since all star break), Pavano (Tiger killer), Rauch (win today)

White Sox: Peavy (2-0 vs. Tigers), Rios (great the last two weeks, 3-3 today)

Tigers: Wash (injured and was awful for Tigers), Huff (just one big hit in tons and tons of ABs)

by Tigersin2010 on Oct 3, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Now, Laird hit that well

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

foul, of course

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

can we safely start the “Fire Jim” and staff chants yet? losing a 7 game lead is unacceptable

by HavocRox on Oct 3, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

no need to put anyone on base

It would be like poking a toothless bear in the eye. Just plain mean.

So, like my new signature? Appropriate, I thought. :)

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay, I don't know anything about prospects and minor leaguers and stuff

But does the offense next year have the possibility of being closer to matching the pitching? We have that part down, now the Tigers just need some support for them.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

We have nothing coming up next year.

Maybe Scott Sizemore to replace Polanco, but the best he’ll do is hit for average with occasional power.

by StringTheory on Oct 3, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And strike out a lot

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry if this has been addressed

But is he related to Grady? I wondered but keep forgetting to ask.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

so everyone will have to just be healthy and bounce back

At least the long offseason will give Inge’s knees a chance to get better.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I were a sports journalist

I would look into recent cash deposits from Chicago banks into Tiger player accounts

by Dale S on Oct 3, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I still believe they can pull this off

but even if they don’t, please remember that the Tigers were picked by most to be a bottom feeder in the worst division in baseball. so it has been a great year to watch them

by murrajo on Oct 3, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd like to think

People will eventually calm down and join you in that perspective.

But I just don’t know…

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Oct 3, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listen

I’m always going to be a huge Tigers fan. But blowing this thing is going to take a loooong offseason to get over. At least it ain’t 119 losses…

by ChrisDTX on Oct 3, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

They've met my expectations. They're on their own now.

I said they could win between 85 and 90 games and that they could contend. I didn’t promise anything more.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true

One of my brothers was on vacation with friends in Vegas before the season started, and the line on the Tigers was 81 wins. He was going to bet they would get less than that because he figured it would be an easy win.

The perspective will come for most people in time, I think – just right now it really hurts, because to get so close and see the offense let down the pitching time after time after time after time, and looking around and seeing the teams that are capable of scoring a lot of runs …

It would just have been nice a FEW WEEKS in the season to have a little bit of that when it mattered. Just a little bit of offense.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...

…if things don’t work out in a couple of days, heaven forbid, do the Tigers make some moves and jump on Kevin Towers?

Doin' work since... ever.

by CardiacCacalacki on Oct 3, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Polanco Ordonez Cabrera.

Jeebus Christ on a hamburger bun GET THIS GOING

by NCDee on Oct 3, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

lol at the sign :)

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

well at least magglio showed up today

whether he wants to catch the ball or not, he’s hitting

No Run Support

by allikazoo on Oct 3, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

If you look up clutch in the dictionary

The Tigers picture is not next to it

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider!

by Ryan Weiss on Oct 3, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

15 straight scoreless innings for the Tigers

In a bad way, that is actually quite remarkable.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

So...what's Miguel's excuse?

He came into the game 5-for-8 against Garcia with two home runs.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

trying to hard...

….the tigers feel the pressure. flat out.
they are not having fun

by Tigersin2010 on Oct 3, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

pressing?

This team was playing a lot better earlier in the season – as soon as people started talking about winning the division, they got tight and tense and stopped enjoying themselves.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a joke.

This team has no business in the playoffs. I guess I’d rather not have to watch us be swept by the Yankees anyways. Good luck, Twins.

by rcpratt on Oct 3, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't care.

I’ll root for the Rockies to take it all.

by NCDee on Oct 3, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could go for the Dodgers, too.

Loons alumni Clayton Kershaw. :)

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have disagreed before today

But now I don’t know. I hate them both.

I think I’ll just root for the Angels.

But mostly for the Rockies to win the series.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really epic

The Twins were only seven back and I was surprised they were ever that far back. They are a decent team.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

well they have led since may 10

by rodallen on Oct 3, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

but never a solid lead

There was a lot of smoke and mirrors and squeaking by on excellent pitching. They rarely looked like a team that was confident and comfortable in being in front.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

they have had many chances to finish the race but could never pull the trigger

if there were ANY consistent hitting the month of September would have been anti-climatic

by murrajo on Oct 3, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, awesome. mlb.tv is getting fussy

it’s a good thing ryan perry is so nice to look at, or else I’d be losing it about now.

No Run Support

by allikazoo on Oct 3, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

the wedding cake is still safe....

But one of fhe pillars behind the head table just crashed forward, wiping out a bunch of drinks.

by rook34 on Oct 3, 2009 9:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

hee hee

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

13-0 Minnesota

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully the Hochevar

that had 13 K’s and 0 BB’s earlier this year will show up

by ChrisDTX on Oct 3, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but even we lit him up

I know. I was there.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

pain?

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Oct 3, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Insider info

Minnesota fan here (please don’t kill me!) Pavano will be going on short rest tomorrow.

"This ain't a football game, we do this every day." - Earl Weaver

by Daniel Louden on Oct 3, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're cool

But I hate your team.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Just had to be said.)

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

No worries, man. I actually like the Tigers (it’s breaking my heart to be rooting for the white sox right now!!) and if they make it, I’ll be rooting for your guys.

"This ain't a football game, we do this every day." - Earl Weaver

by Daniel Louden on Oct 3, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm.

I’d have thought that they’d go with Deunsing. He’s been nails.

by ChrisDTX on Oct 3, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Gardy doesn’t want to leave it up to Duensing. I mean, the kid’s pitched out of his mind lately, but you gotta go with the veteran. Like in the first Major League movie!

Hopefully Redmond doesn’t have to leg out a bunt to win it.

Double hopefully we don’t lose Carlos Gomez and replace him with Omar Epps next season

"This ain't a football game, we do this every day." - Earl Weaver

by Daniel Louden on Oct 3, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch...

I didn’t even realize it. Sorry about the kid. He’ll probably be lights out next year.

"This ain't a football game, we do this every day." - Earl Weaver

by Daniel Louden on Oct 3, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omar Epps?

Don’t you mean Mike Tomlin?

by ChrisDTX on Oct 3, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

I thought Epps replaced Snipes in the second movie…and it was just confirmed on Wikipedia!

"This ain't a football game, we do this every day." - Earl Weaver

by Daniel Louden on Oct 3, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

are we going to get the teaser rally?

Cruel as this has been, it seems inevitable.

by rook34 on Oct 3, 2009 9:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Since SI said the Tigs should win bc everything in Detroit is so bad...

If the Tigs lose, does Detroit automatically get a fluorishing new industry, a great mayor, and sunny weather?

by Dale S on Oct 3, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

THAT'S IT!

they are sacrificing for the good of the city
I can sleep now

by murrajo on Oct 3, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pathetic....nothing more, nothing less

No patience, no ability, no clue. Garcia has not thrown his off speed stuff for strikes all night…his fastball has not broken 89 mph. Any worthy team would be lighting him up like a Christmas tree. Cabby couldn’t hit a beach ball right now, Polanco looks disinterested, and the rest seem to be waiting around for Verlander Sunday. Tigers don’t deserve a play-off spot.

by Hard Truth on Oct 3, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

82 pitches for Garcia in the 7th inning

//sigh

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

not even making it hard on the pitchers

I’ll bet the Tigers guys are wondering why they can’t face an offense like that. Verlander would have about 14 complete games.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasnt Garcia in our minor league system last year

Boy, sure glad we got rid of him….

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider!

by Ryan Weiss on Oct 3, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

he started a few games in Sept last year

then he got hurt again

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Oct 3, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

who would pitch for the twins on tuesday?

i thought it would be pavano. but if he starting tomorrow…

by Tigersin2010 on Oct 3, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Duensing, I guess

But WE still have to win a game, first

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 3, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess

Is that it would be Scott Baker. He’d be on full rest and he’s their best picher.

by JTW on Oct 3, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

Since it’s on Tuesday, I think they’d probably throw Baker on short rest.

"This ain't a football game, we do this every day." - Earl Weaver

by Daniel Louden on Oct 3, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thoughts on the Division lead ...

Does anybody like our chances if we lose tonight? Never been a pessimist but it’s hard to stay positive here.

"I have seen the future, and it is much like the present, only longer" - Dan Quisenberry

by 3strikes on Oct 3, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't like our chances

because the twins will not lose the at the metrodome and they wont have to play anywhere else

by Tigersin2010 on Oct 3, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

From another pessimist...

I still like your chances…but I’m a Twins fan, and we Minnesotans are a gloomy bunch.

"This ain't a football game, we do this every day." - Earl Weaver

by Daniel Louden on Oct 3, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least you're a nice Twins fan

but I still can’t get over 1987 so I hate your team!

by ChrisDTX on Oct 3, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly...

I don’t think there are many not-nice Twins or Tigers fans.

It’s those White Sox fans ya gotta look out for!

"This ain't a football game, we do this every day." - Earl Weaver

by Daniel Louden on Oct 3, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes!

I’m dating a Bears fan…I’m a Packer fan, from MN…we’re getting counselling…

"This ain't a football game, we do this every day." - Earl Weaver

by Daniel Louden on Oct 3, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

so who ya got on Monday night?

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uff-da...

Honestly, I’m not sure what I’m going to be feeling on Monday night…I became a Packer fan pretty late, partially because I got sick of watching the Vikes lose all the time (for the record, the Pack went 4-12 my first year of full fandom)

But now, Favre…I don’t know what emotions I’ll be feeling on Monday…

"This ain't a football game, we do this every day." - Earl Weaver

by Daniel Louden on Oct 3, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha ha

I don’t follow football at all, really – but I’m kind of hoping that Green Bay wins just because Farve gets so much smooching from the media, and Aaron Rodgers (sp?) dealt with so much drama and just waited until his turn to play. Most football players seem like such whining babies.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Minnesotans have been scarred too many times

At least Vikings fans have. Last year’s 1 game playoff loss has to be equally as worse in terms of the distress scale.

by JTW on Oct 3, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

so ...

Go Packers? ;)

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really

JV has an excellent chance tomorrow, but are the Twins likely to lose to KC?
then it goes to a tiebreaker in the Dome without JV to pitch

by murrajo on Oct 3, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

check out my new signature to go with my new attitude

I don’t like the Tigers’ chances at all. They haven’t even been competitive.

Stop kidding yourself, fool. The glass is half empty.

by Baroque on Oct 3, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions