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Game 162: White Sox at Tigers

Chicago White Sox at Detroit Tigers, Oct 4, 2009 1:05 PM EDT


  John Danks (13-10, 3.69) vs.   Justin Verlander (18-9, 3.45), 1:05 p.m. EST

And so, it has all come to this.  The Detroit Tigers have played 161 games in this 2009 season, and it will take the final one on the schedule to determine this team's ultimate fate. 

If the Tigers win today, they will assure themselves of at least extending their season to a one-game tiebreaker on Tuesday.  If they win and the Twins lose, Detroit will be home to the AL Central champions.  If the Tigers lose and the Twins lose, the division title will be decided early Tuesday evening at the Metrodome. 

So the Tigers really need to win today.  And with that, it's best that Justin Verlander is pitching for them.  Games like this are why teams need a stud starting pitcher.  You want to use your best in your most important game.  Verlander has carried the Tigers all season, so he might as well be the guy to hoist his team into the postseason.

Verlander has been spectacular against the White Sox this season, winning two starts and allowing only one earned run in 18 innings.  Over his career, however, they've roughed him up, tagging him with a 4-9 record and 4.97 ERA in 16 starts.

Standing between the Tigers and a possible postseason bid is John Danks, who broke a five-game winless streak in his last start.  Facing the Indians, Danks allowed one run and three hits while pitching a complete game, the first of his major league career. 

He lost his lone start against the Tigers this year, despite giving up just two runs and five hits in 7.1 innings.  In seven career starts versus Detroit, Danks is 2-2 with a 3.74 ERA.  He's 8-3 with a 3.08 ERA in 17 road starts this season. 

Something that might work in the Tigers' favor, as Billfer loves to point out, is Amber Grand singing today's National Anthem.  Detroit is 6-1 when she performs the Star-Spangled Banner.

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LET'S GO TIGERS!!!

Optimism shall reign supreme right now. If we can’t win with JV on the hill, it probably was not meant to be, but the boys have given us a heck of a season and we could not ask for more today.

by VATigersFan on Oct 4, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

we got that boom boom pow /them tigers jackin’ that ball /twins tryin’ to copy our swagger but we’re gonna clinch it now /we so two thousand and nine they so sit down and die /we got that boom boom pow /championship boom boom boom. Let’s get it now!

by wepri31 on Oct 4, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

is that off one of your kids' papers?

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

no ma'am

off the top of my head

by wepri31 on Oct 4, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, negativity out of our systems right?

power of positive thought for the next 5 hours! we can do this!

by Kurt Mensching on Oct 4, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

BRING IT ON!

I’m so freaking ready for this.

by wepri31 on Oct 4, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

positivity!

Justin is a stud. Pitching-wise, I mean.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I even changed my sig for the special event. :)

Which is why I can never have a tattoo. You can’t erase it when you change your mind and decide you like something else better. :D

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be here for like an hour...

unless I fall asleep. Yesterday destroyed me. (and it’s not even the loss that destroyed me.)

by madpoopz on Oct 4, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm going to get it out of the way and admit

I shed some tears driving earlier (the music didn’t help). so yes, hopefully it’s out of my system.

by allikazoo on Oct 4, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I bought one of those commemoritive books that year...

and it has a description of every players highlights for the season and (of course) amazing pictures. it’s got my Pudge on the cover screaming.

Plus my dad got me a commemorative thing from the Post Office.

I have very fond memories from that year. Granted, I was a bandwagon fan that year but boy was that a great way to fall in love with the Tigers.

by madpoopz on Oct 4, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a DVD of the highlights

I have watched Maggs’ HR no less than 800 times.

by ChrisDTX on Oct 4, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have that too

it’s awesome

maybe there will be a 2009 version!

by murrajo on Oct 4, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

every fan has to start somewhere

I despise, DESPISE people who figure that a fan who started following a team when it was already good didn’t “pay their dues” or something. Last I checked, no one died and named them the sports-fan-god.

You’re only a bandwagon fan if you abandon them as soon as they start to struggle. You’re still here.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been a Tigers fan my whole life

…but I didn’t watch them heavily until late in ’06, and I only started watching them religiously in ’07. But I still wore the T-shirts no matter where I went. In college (2001-2005), I wore them so much that everyone assumed I was from Detroit.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 4, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

let me rephrase...

I jumped on the bandwagon that year. Strangely enough I was covered in Gorilla glue and JB Weld when I got on. Having a hard time getting off. I won’t complain though. =)

by madpoopz on Oct 4, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny how sometimes that happens

It starts as just an innocent flirtation, you tell yourself you can quit any time – then WHAM! Trapped for good.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justin Verlander. Luke Hochevar.

A #2 overall pick and a #1 overall pick. Let’s hope that they pitch like their pedigrees.

by ChrisDTX on Oct 4, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

A facebook quiz told me I'm only 20% mean...

that number is going to jump dramatically if we lose today.

by madpoopz on Oct 4, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

awesome

only because I have XM and do not have to listen to Cock Harrelson

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Oct 4, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Today's Chances de Winning

My Simulator: 67.51%
Vegas ML: 63.77%
AccuScore: 57%

vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 4, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

this is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill / fifteen percent concentrated power of will /
five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain / and a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

also roughly 85% justin verlander.

by Kurt Mensching on Oct 4, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're way off...

all those number should be much closer to 200%

by madpoopz on Oct 4, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehe

I wish I could have mlb network, but I don’t wanna switch to time warner or satellite and give up FSD.

by allikazoo on Oct 4, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love this team.

No matter how maddening or panic-inducing they have been. One more time, guys. One more time. Come through when its all gone to hell. You have one last great effort in you.

by rook34 on Oct 4, 2009 12:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

ditto

Remember way back at the beginning of the season when we first started this season and people started trickling onto this site? I’ll miss you guys in the offseason. :(

//GROUP HUG!!!

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, this could be the last one

or almost last one. I plan to stick around through the winter though, through the inevitable trades and such.

by allikazoo on Oct 4, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna stick around, too

It won’t be the same, though. It won’t be the same (mostly) unified front when we’re debating trades and FA signings.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 4, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is all my fault

I realized the root of this madness. I have a postcard on my fridge from a trip to Minneapolis featuring the Metrodome. It will be burned in effigy.

by ChrisDTX on Oct 4, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

do not cross the Verlander

He will slay you with laser beams from his eyeballs.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

oh, by the way

Pop over to Roar of the Tigers to see Samara’s latest effort for an actually laugh out loud, for real.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

my favorite

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, that's creepy!

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 4, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

but hilarious too!

Perfectly reflects our our inner panic.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

our OWN inner panic

grammar fail

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by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that start by E Jax...

helped me win my fantasy match by coming back after the delay

by MrPants20 on Oct 4, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

4 minutes

and I can legally open my first beer. OK, it would be legal to do it now, but the waiting till noon thing should be abided by…

by ChrisDTX on Oct 4, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

texas liquor laws blow

I’m used to being able to buy liquor at the grocery store til 2am.

by allikazoo on Oct 4, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can only buy it at a liquor store

and they close at 9pm. sundays you may only purchase beer/wine (which they obvs have at the grocery), after noon. I think. not sure about the sunday law.

by allikazoo on Oct 4, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least you can buy on Sundays

Georgia is a dry state

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Oct 4, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way

Where did all that rain come from? :D

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I hate it when they play dramatic music when they sign off

Bad things seem to happen.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 4, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel like it's a seven game series

And we are down 3-2. Win and play another day, lose and go home.

Come on TIGERS!!!!

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

"One final time" says Mario

he is optimistic and I will take my cue from him

by murrajo on Oct 4, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Checking in for the deathwatch

I mean celebration countdown! I hope.

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

YOU ARE NOW ENTERING A POSITIVITY ZONE!

Listen to Cicero. :)

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLB network studio talkers talking about Joe Nathan

One of ’em referred to him as “the best closer no one knows about”. Are they kidding? Or is he really not on the national radar?

They did also point out that he’s worked three days in a row…

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I think they're being dramatic

he’s possibly the best closer in baseball and I’m sure even the east coast bias knows it.

by Kurt Mensching on Oct 4, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

People know about him, I'm sure.

But I think he’s been better than Rivera, at least in the last 5 years. If he played in NY, I’m sure there would be the same ridiculous fawning that goes on with Rivera.

by rcpratt on Oct 4, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear about him when the conversation turns to closers

He can’t be that unknown.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm drinking some emergen-C

hope the tigers had theirs. let’s do this

by allikazoo on Oct 4, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

was yesterday's game in HD?

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah, there's a Lions game on, too

and I can watch it on tv….oh well, I guess that’s what commercials are for

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

*she

Sorry, I’m not trying to change her gender

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 4, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

Maybe he will pinch hit or something later.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

double play opportunity

Careful, here comes Quentin. :(

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

not what I pictured but it works!

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

a K and a double play....for the good guys????

Things are looking up already!

(I’m trying the positivity thing….it just goes against everything I am :)

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

it goes against my natural cynicism and pessimism, too

But it does have a certain appeal. And it gets easier with practice.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

already?

Geez. Bears must be missing Urlacher already.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the negative side

apparently, I’m doomed to watching Twins/KC, since I’m looking at a Red Sox game from the 70s on MLB Network.

Can you say M’n F’n BS, kids? I knew you could

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

turn to WGN, and mute

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Oct 4, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO WAIT....HAWK HARRELSON TO THE RESCUE!

i can deal with him for two hours, I think I can I thin I can

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

TV Mute...

Jim and Dan on the radio. No rational human being can deal with Hawk for that long

by Grant E. on Oct 4, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in Wisconsin

Jim and Dan are but a distant crackle in the ether

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember doing that for Tigers games years ago

We would put Ernie on the radio and turn off the TV sound

by murrajo on Oct 4, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's weird

Because, last I looked at a map, I’m closer to Chicago than I am to Minnesota…must be WGN territorial issues

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

13 Games

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Oct 4, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN, RY-RAY!

by wepri31 on Oct 4, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

wooooohoooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Magglio counting in TWOs today?

is that hope that I feel?

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh scerred BigMig’s gonna take out his frustration on them, eh? mwah ha ha ha ha ha ha

by wepri31 on Oct 4, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

he almost threw the IB away

taht would have been a great thing

by murrajo on Oct 4, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

4-9 lifetime

how about an even 500 on danks?

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

that's ok, pop it up backwards

it’s safe

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

ball 1

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

don't be greedy

I would just be happy to see some number

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by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Walk it out, Shorty

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Oct 4, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

three balls

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

1-0 MFers

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by rock n rye on Oct 4, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

yes!!!!

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

WE HAVE A LEAD!!!

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Look at JV!

He is locked in and not even on the mound

by MrPants20 on Oct 4, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

d time to rediscover that homer stroke, Brandon

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

good time, even

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's due...

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Oct 4, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Well

that’s one way to score runs I guess.

by Tw3ek on Oct 4, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

how'd he lay off that one?

make up call?

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

straighten that one out a bit

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

take the bat off your effin shoulders

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

but then again, Hawk and the other guy calling it inside

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

dammit

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Well shoot.

But, hey! ONE > ZERO!!!!

by wepri31 on Oct 4, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

FRAK

Squanderage.

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by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

That's a squander, I don't care if we scored a run

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

big time

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by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

so much for working the count...

maybe you can learn something from Miggy Curtis.

by madpoopz on Oct 4, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

hahahaha

Plaid fashion FAIL in the crowd. :D

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

To be fair

If there was a Tigers pitcher who only needed 1 run, it would be JV.

by Tw3ek on Oct 4, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

very true

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

td lions

stafford and megatron are on fire

by rcpratt on Oct 4, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn that was close

JV has the good hook working today, though. That’s good boding.

by ChrisDTX on Oct 4, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

6!

Only 21 more to go!

by JV22 on Oct 4, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Good shutdown inning

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 4, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Twins and Lions wins

I HATE BEARS

I don’t belive in miracle , but Pavano has ERA over 6 vs Kansas this season

by Grzesio on Oct 4, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

just think about it

The Tigers are putting their season in the hands of Justin Verlander.

The Twins are putting theirs in the hands of….Carl Pavano????

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

keep thinking positive thoughts :)

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

1-2-3

funny thing, every time I click over to the Lions game, JV gets the White sox out before I change the channel back…and the Lions have scored TDs….I might have to keep not watching the white sox at bats

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

G$!!!!!

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Gerald Laird bunt single?

INSANITY!

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

it happens once in a while

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

opie doin' his thang

I love it. my stomach hurts slightly less.

by allikazoo on Oct 4, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Bunty McBuntster

Gets Laird to 2nd.

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't mind a bunt the guy over here

and I got it…though, I looked over a split second too late, saw the bounce, and thought he’d popped it up

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey you guys, today is my birthday

So I am wishing for a Tigers + Lions win, and a Twins loss.

by explosivo2k2 on Oct 4, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Happy Birthday

I’m sure there is a cake around here somewhere

by murrajo on Oct 4, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

happy birthday

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by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

RABURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNED!

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

RABURNED!!!!

WHY HAS HE BEEN SITTINGON THE BENCH!

by explosivo2k2 on Oct 4, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Raburned again!

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by Baroque on Oct 4, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I got chills, yo

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Danks took care of Polanco so easily the first inning....he doesn't have a chance!

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Polanco hits. 190 against Danks

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 4, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh well

not enough reverse on that jinx

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by ahtrap on Oct 4, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL @ Miggy with that hat

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by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 4, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Finally, after 4 games

Tigers playing like they want a win!

by Tw3ek on Oct 4, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Why Leyland

Put Grandy on first when Raburn has .327 and 10 HR in September ??

Maybe Grandy has 5 , but play worse a lot

by Grzesio on Oct 4, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

my back hurts

I need to calm my celebrations down. We’ll see if it’s possible.

by wepri31 on Oct 4, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Has anyone else noticed?

ESPN.com shows the game at 3-0 in the bottom of the second. As does the score scrolling at the bottom of the screen. Foreshadowing?

by Zegarek88 on Oct 4, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Why?

Does my GameCast not show this? Lord this is why I HATE not having the games on TV here.

by Zegarek88 on Oct 4, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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