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Game 163: Tigers at Twins

Detroit Tigers at Minnesota Twins, Oct 6, 2009 5:07 PM EDT


  Rick Porcello (14-9, 4.04) vs.   Scott Baker (15-9, 4.36), 5:07 p.m. EST

Writing this in the regular GameThread format doesn't quite feel right, does it?  After all, this is hardly just another game on the schedule.  But the number "163" is a pretty big indicator.  The regular season just could not contain this AL Central race. 

And so, just when you thought the Tigers were out of the Metrodome, a first-place tie pulls them back in.  But isn't this the way it should be? 

Sure, Detroit should've won the AL Central when it was fully in its grasp.  Their stumble (along with the Twins' red-hot surge) has brought the season to this point.  But every hero needs a villain.  And to finish the story, the arch-enemy must be vanquished.  Has there been any greater adversary to the Tigers this season than these pesky, never-say-die Minnesota Twins

This is the stuff of mythology, man.  Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?  How about doing what should've been done last Thursday at Comerica Park? 

You know all about Scott Baker.  You've seen him pitch against the Tigers enough now, including last Thursday.  Never mind that Detroit's lineup once again played like squanderers.  Baker held the Tigers to just one run over five innings, so it probably means he's going to do it again, right?  Right?  He's the Twins' best starting pitcher!

What?  The Tigers' season comes down to their rookie starter?  Hey, Rick Porcello isn't a rookie anymore.  The kid has pitched in 30 major league games now.  His shoulders are plenty strong for this.  Kid Rick has been Detroit's second-best starting pitcher since late August.  And he's not afraid of these Minnesota Twins.  Just look at his last two starts against them. 

Ryan Raburn is in the lineup today, starting in left field and batting sixth.  Carlos Guillen is the designated hitter, while Ramon Santiago gets the nod at shortstop.  And Denard Span's quote about the Tigers' choking is on the clubhouse wall:

"I don't want to say they've choked, but, yeah, they have choked," Span said. "They've choked a little bit, but they have the opportunity to not choke, I guess."

Twinkie Town has your SB Nation opposing view for this one-game tiebreaker for the AL Central championship.

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Can we eat Twinkies?

Is that good karma?

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone ask Favre to pick a winner for today’s game? I’ve been pretty curious.

by Ian Casselberry on Oct 6, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starting Lineups

These were posted in other threads, but for the sake of the GameThread, we post them again:

TIGERS

1. Curtis Granderson CF
2. Placido Polanco 2B
3. Magglio Ordonez RF
4. Miguel Cabrera 1B
5. Carlos Guillen DH
6. Ryan Raburn LF
7. Brandon Inge 3B
8. Gerald Laird C
9. Ramon Santiago SS

TWINS

1. Denard Span CF
2. Orlando Cabrera SS
3. Joe Mauer C
4. Jason Kubel RF
5. Michael Cuddyer 1B
6. Delmon Young LF
7. Jose Morales DH
8. Matt Tolbert 3B
9. Nick Punto 2B

by Ian Casselberry on Oct 6, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

*babble*

Have to pick up the girlfriend. Hopefully traffic doesn’t bite.

by john.kmiecik on Oct 6, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Or not

::insert sexist comment about women and decision making here::

by john.kmiecik on Oct 6, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grandy @ 1st

I would like see Raburn as lead-off.

But is one good things – NO HUFF
After last days Huff probable be have 0-for-4 or 0-for-5

by Grzesio on Oct 6, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

From Steve Phillips at ESPN:

This game has a chance to be very exciting despite the fact that the odds are stacked against the Tigers. But I look for Porcello and the Tigers to pull off the upset and win the AL Central title.

by Wayne Comer on Oct 6, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

There are D. Span fans?

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did like him

Now I want to throw at him.

I root for the Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings and yes, the Lions.
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by ReichardZ on Oct 6, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would sure love

a tigers victory today

I Like Pie

by mrsunshine on Oct 6, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

SOOOOO EXCITED

I won’t be in front of a tv until 6:45 or so, but thank God for XM.

by Jerkwheat on Oct 6, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

If the Tigers win today

I will buy each of you a candybar of your choice!

by IowaLion on Oct 6, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

TBS

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, thanks.

None of the usual suspects have the Tigers game listed on the tv guide (yes, I still have basic cable).

by okie for michigan on Oct 6, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what I think is great

Forcing the “experts” to pick the winner of a one-game series. The probability of one team winning in any game is roughly a coin-flip.

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by ReichardZ on Oct 6, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

cant decide

Should I listen to the game on XM on the way home or wait until I’m home and start from the beginning on DVR?

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Oct 6, 2009 4:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

tough call

if it were me I couldnt wait and I would just listen to it and rewatch it tonight if all goes well.

by IowaLion on Oct 6, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh you must listen.

No way you get out of this, young man. You’ll tear up your guts just like the rest of us!

by NCDee on Oct 6, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

radio it is

It better not be a stressful first few innings. I get pissy enough as it is in Atlanta traffic

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Oct 6, 2009 4:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Channel 177 for the Tigers broadcast btw

by Jerkwheat on Oct 6, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm out of cigarettes and tobacco

Good god, I can’t even roll my own. I don’t know how I’m going to make it through this game.

Yes, I’m Jim Leyland.

by john.kmiecik on Oct 6, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

on my way

Should just get to my spot for the game. So pumped! And want to puke all at the same time…

by PBURGTIGER on Oct 6, 2009 4:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

This is why I hate this goddamn country sometimes

Don’t get me wrong, I loves me the government healthcare and the whole “our flag isn’t burnt too often in demonstrations in foreign countries” and all, but…

Rogers Sportsnet, the equivalent of Fox Sports Net over here, is only showing the game in a few places in Canada, and NOT IN ONTARIO. Can you fucking believe this? A Tiger fan in WINDSOR GODDAMN ONTARIO can’t watch this game unless they fork out a mint for a satellite dish or digital cable.

You better believed I called Customer Relations and left… well, in my polite Canadian way, I was rather curt but kept it far short of yelling.

In conclusion, I can’t follow this game along with you folks, because I’ll be up the street at the local sports bar, which has just assured me via telephone that they’ll carry this game.

And hey, on the off-chance anyone else in midtown Toronto needs a place to watch the game, McSorley’s on Bayview is where I’ll be. C’mon over if you’re around.

by frisbeepilot on Oct 6, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Sucks for you, but...

“the whole ‘our flag isn’t burnt too often in demonstrations in foreign countries’ and all”

has got me falling over right now.

by john.kmiecik on Oct 6, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rant of the year?

I think this is the darkhorse to win.

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by ReichardZ on Oct 6, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stranded in Twins Territory...

…but sporting my Tigers hat. Got a wicked stare at the gas station this morning. Then got to work and my boss asked me if I was going to be using it tomorrow to wipe up my tears.

“Please Dear God…for all that is holy. Let me rub his nose in it tomorrow morning….”

by 42jeff on Oct 6, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

What is the deal here?

Still According to Jim? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

by okie for michigan on Oct 6, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I have a doctor's appointment next week.

She’s going to ask me if I’ve cut down on my smoking.

I’m going to laugh.

by NCDee on Oct 6, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

one game. a chance to slay the dragon.

Imagine the fun if we can close down the hellhole with a victory. This will be the toghest one to win all year, but we are fully capable. Give ’em hell guys, and bring that flag home.

by rook34 on Oct 6, 2009 5:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

here we go!

Time to separate the Tigers from the kittens.

by wepri31 on Oct 6, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

MY SIGNAL JUST DIED

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

STUPID PRIVATE SCHOOL

WHY THE HELL DO I PAY 50 GRAND A YEAR FOR NO TBS AT THE BIGGEST MOMENT OF THE YEAR?

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

You’re getting a real education

by john.kmiecik on Oct 6, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No time

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

making a break for it

if all goes well should be in front of a TV by the 3rd inning

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Oct 6, 2009 5:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Should have never come to this...

I don’t like our chances, hate to say it.

by crwi on Oct 6, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Come onnn.

No Miggy stuff was necessary before this game.

by StringTheory on Oct 6, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh please

These morons couldn’t string a real story together to save their lives, so they went with the easy one.

by john.kmiecik on Oct 6, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I HATE YOU DENARD SPAN

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I got no balls and strikes

or outs or base runners. Jeebus this is one cheap outfit.

by NCDee on Oct 6, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

leaving work now - let's see how fast I can get home

hopefully without throwing up

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Oct 6, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

God

Maintenance just waltzed into my apartment. What an opportune time, douche.

by okie for michigan on Oct 6, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

bullshit

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

wow what was he looking at?

right down the middle the whole time.

by actioncuse on Oct 6, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, don't you guys just love this PERFECT GAME?

What a time to throw a PERFECT GAME. Wouldn’t it be amazing to see a PERFECT GAME?

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

3 Down

24 outs to go!

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by ReichardZ on Oct 6, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

since when

are umpires endorsing crap?

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

No commercials on mlb.com!

Get to hear the announcers in between. What a couple of douchebags.

by NCDee on Oct 6, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Cmon Kid Rick

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck you Span

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Hahahahaha

One pitch, one out to DEEEEnard.

by NCDee on Oct 6, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

FU SPAN

cabrera is on his game tonight

I Like Pie

by mrsunshine on Oct 6, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

And off the sauce

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a nice move by Laird

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

Thank God.

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kid Rick...

the first inning will be the toughest.

by rook34 on Oct 6, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear everyone:

Can we leave the Cabrera drinking jokes at the door? Seriously. Skip Bayless comes up with this shit, I expect better here.

Signed…
Well, probably just me.

by john.kmiecik on Oct 6, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

fair enough

Unless he goes 0-for

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

Except I won’t be saying jokes

by MrPants20 on Oct 6, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kneecap Joe Mauer

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Dagnabig, Mauer.

I’m going to kick you in the left kneecap.

by wepri31 on Oct 6, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Ramon!!!!!!!!

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Yay!

Good inning, Kid.

by NCDee on Oct 6, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

good

wow, so for those of us stuck on mlb.tv, what happened there?

by RudeMood19 on Oct 6, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

flyout to SS

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I'm confidently nervous.

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by ReichardZ on Oct 6, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've almost crapped my pants

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

COME ON MIGGY

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

ok, miggy, let's see what you got

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by ahtrap on Oct 6, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear announcers

I can’t hear the game over all the slurping of Joe Mauer. Please shut up.

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

alright folks

i’m off to work. gonna hopefully have a radio so i can keep up with the game.

GO TIGERS!!

WOO CABBY DOUBLE

I Like Pie

by mrsunshine on Oct 6, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

DOUBLEICIOUS!!!

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

a few more of those, please

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by ahtrap on Oct 6, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

base hit better

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boy, it is live on here today!

Hope it continues beyond today…………….

by Hooville01 on Oct 6, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

greetings, btw

stupid work held me up…

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by ahtrap on Oct 6, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

i hate work.

what does it think it is? important?

by wepri31 on Oct 6, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ESPN radio announcers are so into the Miggy Friday night story

They did not mention that he got a double. They are still talking about it, I have no idea who is up or the count. This is ridiculous.

by Dale S on Oct 6, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Well

nuts.

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Word

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Runners at the Corners baby!

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Time

For a run Binge!

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Orlando

is just not quite old enough to not make that play

by MrPants20 on Oct 6, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Inge did his part...unfortunately, so did the OC

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by ahtrap on Oct 6, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

EFFIN SQUANDER

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by ahtrap on Oct 6, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I HATE THE TWINS

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep....

definitely need another beer

by MrPants20 on Oct 6, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Have a couple for me

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

DAMN IT

ahhhhhh you guys I can’t handle this

by kendra.michelle on Oct 6, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry I'm late guys...

Cabrera did his part… The rest couldn’t…

by ZWC11 on Oct 6, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey everyone

I feel pretty good about Baker right now, has he had a single first pitch strike?

by Elfuego51 on Oct 6, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

NO JINXING

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

take a seat

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Bitchin

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Rick on fire...

Here we go, if our offense gets going we got this…

by ZWC11 on Oct 6, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Big if

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad to see him pitching really good though...

I didn’t think he was going to pitch bad, but I figured a 4 ER game and our bullpen gives up 1 or 2 more…

Now it looks like a 0-2 ER game.

by ZWC11 on Oct 6, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

DONT JINX IT

JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by David Tokarz on Oct 6, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the way, Kid!

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by ahtrap on Oct 6, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

My crush on Ryan Raburn is growing.

It’s probably a good thing JV isn’t pitching today.

by wepri31 on Oct 6, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tiger baseball on TBS in CT! God is good!
NOW SCORE RUNS!!!!!!!

by K1RDO on Oct 6, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Should be "us" not up

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider!

by Ryan Weiss on Oct 6, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

MAGGLIO!

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider!

by Ryan Weiss on Oct 6, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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