World Series Game 4 Open Thread
After last night's 8-5 win in Game 3, the Yankees could take a commanding 3-1 series lead over the Phillies with a victory tonight. Will Philadelphia regret not pitching Cliff Lee on short rest, as the Yanks are doing tonight with CC Sabathia? Especially now that it appears that the Yankees' lineup may have revived itself?
Joe Blanton won a game for the Fightins in last year's World Series, allowing two runs and four hits, with seven strikeouts, in six innings. But he's 0-3 with a 8.18 ERA in four career starts versus the Yankees.
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Go Joe!
And go Phillies!
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
(And go Vancouver Canucks, too.) :)
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
James Cameron is the king of the world
by Ian Casselberry on Nov 1, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was that Titanic reference intended?
by StringTheory on Nov 1, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yessir
But more to his Oscar speech
by Ian Casselberry on Nov 1, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
have not seen the movie
But it seems very emotionally overwrought and predictable.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still like it
I could do without the whole romantic part of it, but the action sequences are really good.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I found the comparison of the two teams to the movie a bit weird
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I find all those comparisons strange.
But the “sports = war” equivalence is just so overblown. Even if it’s some kind of fictional war.
And I still don’t have a really clear idea of what the movie is like, anyway – except that it is probably like every other similar movie with that kind of plot.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't sure if I was in my living room or a theater
they tied that in pretty tightly
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if cole hamels was on the white sox
ozzie would have beat the crap out of him over those comments he made about wishing the season could be over. (as he confirms on the show now)
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
at least the other announcer called him out on trying to sound logical and reasonable
“if you put your sox on wrong you lose it”
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
which is exactly the kind of attitude
That got Ozzie’s team into the playoffs and playing in the World Series … oh, whoops.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well, he did have a point. attitude like that is not good for the rest of the team
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well, Cole can probably go back to baseball cap commercials now
I think his season is done no matter what
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
unless he wanted it to be over and already have won the World Series
So they could start on all the celebrating and stuff like last year.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
quote
“I can’t wait for it to end,” Hamels said, referring to his wildly inconsistent 2009 season. “It’s been mentally draining … It’s one of those things, a year in, you just can’t wait for a fresh start.”
so, I dunno. I can understand feeling like that but prob not a good idea to tell the media about it
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually, in context, it doesn't sound so bad
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that doesn't bother me either
It’s been a rough year for him, and he’s glad that whatever the end result it’s almost over and he can concentrate on coming back strong next year. I hear similar sentiments from a lot of professional athletes – heck, I’ve had semesters I thought the same about.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fox baseball pregame yakking
The most useless thing on television, or only one of many other most useless things on television?
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the pre-game on MLBN has been very good.
it’s too bad they can’t carry the whole thing
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Karros has fabulous hair, though
by Ian Casselberry on Nov 1, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this is true
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good evening
I just jerry-rigged a cable connection into my bedroom (by use of a splitter and an extra-long coaxial cable). Now I have to make sure not to trip over it.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Unleash your inner MacGyver!
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone else seen Wanda Sykes HBO special
I thought it was quite funny
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
have not seen it
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hee hee
Funny to hear “out of respect for our country” on the PA at the same time the Phanatic is on screen. :)
And this staff seargent has a wonderful voice.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, she's really good
And I had the same thought about the Phanatic being in the background
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
she can sing
I’m pretty sure she sang God Bless America in a previous game (with prelude I’ve never heard before)
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that "Go Phillies!" or "Lose Yankees!"?
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
either works
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fun fact:
Our national anthem uses the music of a an 18th century bar song.
by StringTheory on Nov 1, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
which accounts for the difficult melody
I wish it was as easy to sing as O, Canada.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
unless you sing the french verses like you're supposed to!
by MackAveKurt on Nov 1, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I figure it's good enough that I know the words in English
After all, it is a foreign country and all.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and yet it's sung at the pace of a funeral dirge
by MackAveKurt on Nov 1, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe after drinking so much they needed a slower melody?
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they need to sing it more like a fight song, less like a surrender
by MackAveKurt on Nov 1, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but you said it was French. there has to be surrender somewhere
jk
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or a lot of blood
My mom had to learn the lyrics to the Marseillais (sp) when she took the language in high school, and said it’s pretty violent and bloody. I just know the tune from the 1812 Overture.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no no
I said Oh Canada was supposed to be sung partially in french. It goes English-French-English.
by MackAveKurt on Nov 1, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't heard that everywhere, though.
In Montreal and Ottawa, but in Vancouver and both Alberta cities I’ve just heard in English. I can’t remember how they sing it in Toronto off hand (but I think there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth).
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I know how a lot of the country feels about bilingualism
but it is a very nice version of the song.
by MackAveKurt on Nov 1, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tim McCarver = Donald Rumsfield?
you decide…
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
now that you mention it ...
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
I’ve thought they’ve looked similar a number of times.
by StringTheory on Nov 1, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, Lee isn't pitching three times this series?
Are the Phillies trying to lose?
by StringTheory on Nov 1, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't gonna say anything
but I am uneasy about that as well
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Phillies are counting on Joe Blanton doing what he did to the Rays last year
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
all I can figure
Is that his record is lousy on short rest.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lee has never pitched on short rest.
by Ian Casselberry on Nov 1, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so start time was supposed to be when?
did the time time change catch them off guard?
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
For whatever reason
Sunday’s game was scheduled to start later than the others.
by Ian Casselberry on Nov 1, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That did look kinda funny, though
Only because he didn’t get hurt
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well.
THIS is a promising start, you Philly dorks.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure, but it looks like both catchers close their eyes as they're about to catch the ball
has anybody else seen that?
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"there's no way that was intentional"
that’s what they said about Youkilis/ Porcello
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, if this was us, and Rick was pitching, watch out
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yep
He’d take down anyone foolish enough to charge the mound.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A-Rod turned away from Kate Hudson
So she wouldn’t see the tears.
by Ian Casselberry on Nov 1, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A-Rod taking a page out of Delmon Young's book
But at least Delmon Young wears pants that are the correct size
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
why on earth would he do that on purpose in the first inning?
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know... A-rod was the hottest bat in NY till this series and they have hit him 3 times
that would make me suspicious
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can either of these left fielders throw?
Raburn would have gotten him at home.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ibañez is not supposed to have a good arm
There’s a gif of him somewhere making a really crappy throw into the grass
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so we have a choice
Of Ibanez or Noodle-Arm Damon.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s a good gif. Not the one you’re talking about, but King Felix’s reaction is great.
by StringTheory on Nov 1, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not that my opinion matters but
this plunking looked a lot less intentional than the other two from what I recall
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what are the odds that the Goats movie is funny?
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don't know
I can’t decide whether or not to see it. It doesn’t look like the sort of movie I’d care for, but I like Ewan McGregor.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not sure
The title is funny, but if the only amusing parts are in the commercials and the rest is slow-paced and sluggish it will be crap. I hope it’s funny just because the premise is amusing.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'll see it
But Clooney seems to think comedic acting is all in the eyebrows.
by Ian Casselberry on Nov 1, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
after "Burn after reading" fooled me
I am quite distrusting.
by MackAveKurt on Nov 1, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Be adequate, Chase!
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I guess not careful enough.
Chase Utley is a C.C. Slayer.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CC's mustache is twice as thick as his sideburns.
Not a good ratio.
by StringTheory on Nov 1, 2009 8:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Be adequate, Ryan!
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I feel the strikout record coming
Maybe this game. He’s been horrible this series.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't remember if it was the Dodgers fans who said this or the Yankees fans
But after a Subway commercial, someone on one of those sites said “I’m surprised Ryan Howard does bite at that sandwich three times and miss every time”
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are we gonna have another hour long 1st inning?
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
nope
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe the third inning or something
But it wouldn’t be a true Yankee game without at least one interminable inning.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's that Raul Ibañez gif I was talking about, thanks to El Lay Dave at TBLA
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure that 22 highschool homeruns really translates to facing a major league pitcher
in the World Series
maybe I’m wrong here
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 8:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It didn't seem to phase Rick Porcello
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rick's high school years
Were a lot more recent than Sabathia’s. :)
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
amusing halloween costume
kenny powers from eastbound & down
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 9:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
TBLA just gave me another Ibañez gif
This one was against the Tigers (looks like Matt Joyce)

by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
blanton appears to be settling in
at least I hope
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately so does C Charles
Just need one more stinking run to tie it up, Philly.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They'll have their chance
I doubt CC will go eight innings
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Evening all.
Figured I’d drop by before the Yankees extend the lead, and I’m reduced to whining about their payroll and which players they’ll be buying the next two offseasons.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hello, Don Quixote
Tilting at payroll windmills.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great positioning by the Yankee bench coach, whomever that may be nowadays.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I believe you.
Too lazy to go the site and check. Plus, I’m sure Buck will be telling us at some point.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon dove into the stands better than Jeter!
But he doesn’t get the big commercials.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What game was that?
I remember one a couple years ago in Seattle, but there was another one this year and I can’t remember what game it was.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my brother figures
That instead of intentionally walking people, they should just plunk them in the butt. It would keep the pitch count down and reduce the chance of a wild pitch.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's a little hard on the batter though
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he advocated it for Barry Bonds mostly
Thought he was a surly whiner and if he was going to be such a sourpuss, then give him something to be grumpy about.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't that Bob Gibson's approach?
He was well before my time.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Posada is an Olympic-level complainer
though he was justified on that pitch.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
right on the corner
Nice.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ech
Every time I see Blanton, I think of the smudge on his hat, and the home run he hit in the World Series last year. And now that I know that home run was hit off Edwin Jackson…
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still having EJ flashbacks..
to his extra base hit binge the last two months of the season.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That still doesn't make Blanton a pleasant thought
And, oh yeah, watching him mow through the Rays last year wasn’t fun either
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So...why was everyone worried about Cliff Lee?
Blanton’s mowing, and there’s no way the Yankees hold the Phillies to one run.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
didn't start out that awesome
people tend to freak out when that happens and wish for the ace
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he's ben doing great, but it's early
and neither bullpen has been lock tight so far
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So...you think Posada will throw anytime soon?
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
dang slippery ball
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahahaha
My baseball guru appreciates Posada’s offense, but he’s terrified of him being behind the plate. His motto is that “Your catcher is there for defense. Anything he gives you with the bat is gravy.”
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Squandering in progress.
This is looking quite familiar.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Phillies are the only team who HAVEN'T squandered.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Squander aborted!
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, major defense fail
The throw beat Howard home
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And another blown call
Should we be surprised?
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the 2nd basemen don't have to hit the bag to turn a 2x play
so the runner should get that call (right)?
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Howard never touched home plate
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
apparently when a double play is being turned the defender quite often doesn't touch the bag
he just stands over it and throws to 1st.
I just learned that this year and was disappointed. to me that’s cheating
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damon looked a bit like his replacement, Holliday, out there.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
MLB Trade Rumors expects the Yankees to re-sign Damon
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Holliday is on record as saying he wants to be a Yank.
He’ll be there one way or the other.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hee hee
Is there someone out there who is on record saying he wants to be a Yankee but the Yankees would never want to sign?
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't remember Sheffield saying he wanted to rejoin the Yankees, but I could've easily missed it
At any rate, what the Yankees do is not really my priority. My primary concern is the Tigers, and they play the Yankees 8 times at the most (7 times next year). Therefore, figuring out how to beat the AL Central should be the focus.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen it a few places.
And I agree about focusing on the Central. But we would have to deal with them at some point.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the post season hasn't been pretty for him has it?
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the homers have been nice
But otherwise, not the greatest.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we've just learned that CC is a much better hitter than he is a bunter
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
gameday just told me blanton struck out swinging for the third out
apparently failure abounds there as well!
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahahahaha
Blanton struck himself out!
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lead off walks = bad things
when will we learn?
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can we get a....
Leadoff Walks=Pain T-shirt?
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will order at least 5 of them myself.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
plus the catchers
Actually, just imprint it on their equipment so it is always visible to the pitchers.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WE already know. The PHILLIES seem to have difficulties.
And Opie would have knocked that down in the infield. :(
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I transferred my allegiance to Philly. my friend Bob is from there and I promised
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's part of what I'm doing, only the opposite
My baseball guru is a Yankees fan.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A dribbler through the infield and a bloop score 2 runs.
Sometimes…it’s your year.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, that 200 million hasn't done much for them the last nine years
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and it has been the source of much joy
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, the last time the World Series went the way I wanted it to was 2002
I’m not counting 2005 (when I strictly went AL over NL, as neither the White Sox nor the Astros thrilled me) or 2003 (when I would’ve rooted for the Yankees at the time, but since then, there’s been a couple players from that Marlins team whom I’ve come to know and love; at the time I had no idea who any of them were).
And this is how “AL over NL” I’ve been in my life: 2007 was the first time I rooted for an NL team in the World Series.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
that’s not small cabbage either
you could argue that the $113 is better spent. They are in the same place with 1/2 the payroll.
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree somewhat.
That would be totally true had the Yanks not bought CC, Tex, and Burnett. Those 3 salaries make up a huge portion of the payroll gap.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
all the final four teams had relatively large payrolls
Not Yankee large, but not the dinkiness of some teams either.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So basically, no Rays this time, then?
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
even the Rays increased their payroll by 50%
$63 from $44
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Am I correct in thinking the Marlins still have the lowest payroll?
Or have the Pirates surpassed them, so to speak?
The Marlins aren’t that bad of a team.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
looks like you are right
this is the link I found
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
The last time I saw, the Marlins were at $22 million, so they’ve gone up a bit. They’ll have to go up even higher if they want to sign Josh Johnson long-term like they did Hanley.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Popped in the air?"
That’s a little bit more than a pop-up
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
CC is beatable tonight.
Not locating offspeed at all.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Philly needs to cash in on the opportunities.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well since its the phillies and i dont really care THAT much
3 run homer please
by allikazoo on Nov 1, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Phils have been watching Tigers squandering highlights.
Pathetic at-bat by Utley.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
About time
The other seven teams have already fallen victim
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea, but CC is paid to get him out.
and he can
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees lead the universe in mound meetings.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As long as they don't play the Kistler Ford whistling music again
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see a trap door halfway...
so they can plunge Posada one of these interminable trips.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why have signs?
Just walk out there every pitch.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Based on these visits alone
I want to beat Posada over the head.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
After you're done...
walk over behind Giuliani and get him too, please.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ack, Pinstripe Alley is really hard to follow
They put up, like, 19 comments at once. You can’t have a conversation with anyone.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
smart strategy
argue with the umpire and delay the game because you can’t communicate with your pitcher
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 10:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
is that the Yankee Way?
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
Our guys do it all the time. Either that or he hits HRs against us.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IT'S LIKE NICK PUNTO'S TWIN BROTHER
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you're going to walk Swisher, just hit him.
Jackass.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is not as bad as walking Nick Punto
At least Swisher has power and doesn’t normally steal bases.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else see Melky Cabrera grab the hamstring?
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ack, I'm not writing good English right now
I just told someone I wanted the Tigers to play the Tigers next year in the WS (meant to say Dodgers).
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that would be cool.
no worry about disappointment and sadness
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
how complicated can this be? just throw the ball
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
worst aspect of human society
Committee meetings. :(
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
does anyone else have their local Fox affiliate advertising their local news with a "Friends" theme?
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nope
My Fox affiliate advertised their news with “Find out which high school football teams made the playoffs.” Like I care. My old high school went 1-9 and is a dinky little Catholic school that never gets any media coverage.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in Grand Rapids they have the whole 6 o'clock team frollicing in a fountain
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's getting a little cold for that now
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you would think so
it’s in the 30’s right now
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for all the angst about the pitching matchup
Blanton has done a pretty good job, and Sabathia has been plenty hittable – the Phillies just couldn’t get enough hits with runners in scoring position and drive them in.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
White Flag Raised.
Chan Ho Park in the game against the top of the Yanks order after CC.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Phillies win series in 7 games? Anyone? Bueller?...
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that would be exciting
Even better would be a STUPENDOUS COMEBACK to tie the series at two games each.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This appears to be one of those series...
where it’s 3-1, the home team gives one last great effort to push it to 6, and then it ends.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me of 1993
Curt Schilling pitched a 2-0 shutout in Game 5, then joe carter came up in game 6…
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you guys thought
that this game feels like wading in mud. Ugh, the pace
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We just spent 10 minutes ripping Posada
for his constant trips to the mound.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just remembered that Bud wanted the games to be quicker
wouldn’t that apply even MORE in the WS?
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had to root for Posada all year -
He was my fantasy baseball starting catcher!
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you would have done great
If mileage walked was one of the stats.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Nov 1, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't argue with Posada's stats
He did pretty well this season
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sabrerose -
Instead odf Dodgers-Tigers, would you take a Phillies-Tigers series in 2010? ;)
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like the Dodgers better than the Phillies, but we can't really control the NL, obviously
I don’t think that would be a good matchup for the Tigers, cuz you guys are heavy on the lefty power hitters and our pitching is mostly right-handed. Bad match.
Bottom line, though: I’ll be thrilled to have the Tigers in the WS, no matter WHO the opponent is. Trust me, I won’t do a lot of complaining in the NLCS.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Make this KFC commercial go away!
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the "suggestion" from Fox at Halftime for the Lions was "Catch the Football"
I laughed so hard when I saw that.
they didn’t listen though
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Eagles beat the NY Giants 40-17 today
I was hoping I could borrow some of those points and apply them to this game…
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I almost NEVER make solid predictions like this, but I'll take the chance
Phillies in 6
This is not the result I want, but it is what my instincts are telling me right now. And my instincts have served me well, at least in terms of the Tigers.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Your instincts should be hatin' on the Yankees.
he-he
by 13194013 on Nov 1, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no strong feelings toward the Yankees either way
They are merely another team. They exist.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Projected 2010 WS starters:
1. Lee vs. Verlander
2. P. Martinez vs. E. Jackson
3. Hamels vs. Porcello
4. Blanton vs. Bonderman?
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, now we're predicting rotations! I like this...
I would agree with the Tigers’ side, except Verlander goes in #4 on short rest
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, come on
When was the last time Leyland started anyone on short rest?
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Bonderman...
is both good enough and healthy enough to be starting that game.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know i keep mentioning fantasy baseball-
but i had Bonderman on my team in 2006. What is his current status?
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
recovering from surgery
it’s been a long road
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't think of one game we had them besides that 12-5 miracle over the Sox.
And Opening Day, guess we had a few then too.
by Elfuego51 on Nov 1, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hello everyone
Couldn’t believe the Phillies didn’t go with Lee.
by Elfuego51 on Nov 1, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I still can't believe that the phils let Swisher and Pettitte beat them at the plate yesterday!
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pettitte's was a bloop
Swisher was a bomb, though
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have never seen a team get so many bloops and dinks
like the Yanks have the last 3 games. Ugh.
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't the Angels do that a lot in the 2002 WS?
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Halos...
also had the advantage of playing against a brain-dead Dusty Baker, who managed as if he had never been on a baseball field in his life.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, Pinstripe Alley just posted the strangest rally image ever
It’s a Ninja Assassin poster with Robinson Cano’s hooded face Photoshopped onto the guy’s face, and on each corner they have a Playboy model and a black taco.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
can you repost it here for our amusement?
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's interesting
I think the pharma book is still stranger though
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was gonna say
Rally overkill on that picture……..
by Elfuego51 on Nov 1, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny....
didn’t see Joba pumping his fist or dancing after that one.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry -
I’m still distracted by the woman in that weird poster… ;)
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know
The guy has been automatic in this postseason.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had my back to the TV
What exactly did Pedro Feliz hit out?
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Please don't show the Pujols homer...
that one hasn’t landed yet.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 11:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That ball was last seen...
somewhere over West Texas.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure what y'all are worried about
Neither the Rockies nor the Dodgers had good swings off Lidge
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd love it if once...
the ump told Jeter no when he sticks his hand in his face.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Filthy
Looking real good for the Phils right now.
by Elfuego51 on Nov 1, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dear God, the Phillies fans smell blood
It’s frightening. We don’t do that.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Unless it's our own.
I smelled in on September 10.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, the Phillies fans were after our blood on September 10?
2008Philz, can you confirm this?
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant I smelled our own blood on September 10.
The Phils were otherwise occupied, I’m sure.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Phillie Brainlock
Boy, do I hope that’s not what determines this game.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 11:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great play by Damon
unfortunately
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by ahtrap on Nov 1, 2009 11:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that shift got majorly exposed there.
by Elfuego51 on Nov 1, 2009 11:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering why the third baseman was covering second
So is that the pitcher’s fault for not covering the open base?
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by ahtrap on Nov 1, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'd have to say
Seems like it would be part of the fundamentals of making sure all the bases are covered, but the closer would probably be the most likely to forget about that.
by Elfuego51 on Nov 1, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I'd walk Tex.
Or hit him. That works fine.
That shift scared me to death.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Common sense will tell you? And McCarver realized it? WHOA
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by ahtrap on Nov 1, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, I guess ARod has shed the choker tag for good.
Ballgame and series.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ARod came through
He made Lidge pay.
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was more Damon being heads-up than anything Lidge did
And I normally don’t like Johnny Damon
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lidge just couldn't get the next guys out though.
Unfortunately, he has just not been the Lidge of 2008. sigh – if only I could jump in the Wayback machine and get the 2008 versions of Lidge and Cole hamels!
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damon worked the at bat, then goaded the Phils into that play.
All credit to him.
by rook34 on Nov 1, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ah, they're already showing Christmas commercials
And I think I just answered my own question from earlier. I believe VEB is Viva El Birdos.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sabre-
Remember you once mentioned that the Phils’ bullpen was switching places with their opponents?
I think Lidge didn’t get the memo. ;)
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 11:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I find this amusing
When Matt Stairs hits, both Pinstripe Alley and TrueBlueLA post pictures of William Howard Taft
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well folks, this was fun
just like old times
cya
by murrajo on Nov 1, 2009 11:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Night all!
I may not be home tomorrow – I hope I get a chance to stop by in a game6 !
If not, I’ll have to check back next season to see how the tigers are doing. take care all!
by 2008Philz on Nov 1, 2009 11:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I can't wait for 2010 season to start
Then we’ll all be one united front in our game threads, rooting for the Tigers.
I have to work tomorrow night (and Mondays at the pharmacy SUCK), so I’ll be late to the open thread tomorrow, but I’ll be there.
Good night!
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 1, 2009 11:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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