Brandon Inge on the Trade Block, Too?
Okay, this may be getting out of hand now. First, the Detroit Tigers let it be known that Edwin Jackson was available for trade. Then, Curtis Granderson was also dangled out there for interested teams. And now, perhaps Brandon Inge is being offered up, as well?
That's what SI.com's Jon Heyman posted on his Twitter feed, reporting from the GM meetings in Chicago:
#tigers surprise sale: brandon inge may be available, as well as curtis granderson and edwin jackson, sources say
This one is a bit more difficult to believe. You can see why other teams would be interested in picking up a starting pitcher like Jackson or a centerfielder like Granderson. And the Tigers should see what they might be able to get for those players in trade.
But Inge? Sure, he brings a glove, one of the best in the league at third base. And since the Tigers don't seem to have anyone who could replace him at that position, Inge might be more valuable to Detroit than to any team they could trade him to.
Yet he swings a bat that's hit under .240 for three straight seasons (and under .260 for four). And as this rumor is being floated out there, Inge is sitting in two straight-legged casts, unable to put weight on his feet after having surgeries on both of his knees.
Inge is also coming off a year in which he hit 27 home runs and drove in 84 runs. Had he not developed patellar tendinitis in both of his knees, who knows what those final numbers would've been? He ended up batting .186/.260/.281 in the second half of the season, with six homers and 26 RBIs.
One more year remains on Inge's contract, in which he's set to be paid $6.6 million.
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^putting fingers in ears...running around the room...^
“Nah nah nah nah nah I’m not listening to this!!!!!”
by NCDee on Nov 11, 2009 9:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This makes more sense
We could also get Adrian Beltre for cheaper, too…
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by demondeaconsbaseball on Nov 11, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If you totally want to alienate two-thirds of the fanbase, that is
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 11, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because trading Granderson totally wouldn't do this
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by demondeaconsbaseball on Nov 11, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Winning = fans.
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by Mike Rogers on Nov 12, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Adrian Beltre for cheaper?
Adrian Beltre at 1 year for 6.6? I doubt it.
At minimum that’s going to be a 3 year deal at 6 per, and prob more.
by The Nicker on Nov 12, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's coming off injury
So he may be looking to rebuild value. He won’t get 3 years and 18mm.
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by demondeaconsbaseball on Nov 12, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOO.
i’m not liking any of these rumors.
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by mrsunshine on Nov 11, 2009 10:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Before JV goes on the block, I guess I should qualify something
I will love and follow this team no matter what. I’ve been tested, and I know I can do this. I survived my favorite player being traded last year, so I know I can survive pretty much anything. But it sure would be depresssing to turn on the TV on April 5th and not see Grandy, EJ (in the dugout, of course), Inge, and even Laird.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 11, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Depressing, sure.
But hey, like players say after they get traded, “it’s a business.” I don’t think I could’ve been more heartbroken as a 10-year-old when Gibby left for the Dodgers… but I got over it (and today I wear #23 in my softball league in honour of him). So, life moves on, and so does the game.
by frisbeepilot on Nov 11, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I reiterate...
these trade rumors are bad for my blood pressure.
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by madpoopz on Nov 11, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
at first I was really upset when I heard about grandy
but now Inge? it’s like this is too ridiculous to even be freaking out. of course if he did go elsewhere, no joke, I would cry. but jeeeeeeeeez.
by allikazoo on Nov 11, 2009 11:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
they can't possibly all be legit trade rumours
Maybe someone is making all this stuff up just to mess with us.
Which is very very mean to do. :(
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by Baroque on Nov 12, 2009 6:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd trade pretty much every player if it means a World Series win.
I really like the players on the roster but the name of the game is winning and if it means parting with some loved players, so be it. Winning is a panacea (there are some exceptions).
by 13194013 on Nov 12, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Call me jaded, but I've pretty much convinced myself that any player we get in return would be worthless
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 12, 2009 9:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
this
That’s my problem – the guys the team has are known quantities, and any replacements are unknows. Sure, they MIGHT be better, but I’m convinced they will be both more expensive and exponentially worse.
If a team is going to have horrible overpaid players, I would rather it be horrible overpaid players that I recognize.
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by Baroque on Nov 13, 2009 5:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where were all these comments last year?
Weren’t the Tigers looking to move him last year (or was that two years ago)?
All this amounts to is gauging what value the players have on the market. Just because deals are being explored involving these players doesn’t mean they’re getting traded. No one has heard any specific deals involving these players, have they? It is just a general manager doing his job by exploring all options.
Call me cold, but if a trade is made that makes this team better, I’m for it. If a trade can come about that address needs (I’m thinking either pitching or lead-off), why would DD not pull the trigger. Sure you have to be loyal to your fans, but will fans really come if a team isn’t looking for the best ways to improve their roster?
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by ReichardZ on Nov 12, 2009 10:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
agreed
This could also be something DD is floating now,so that if for some reason the Tigers are out of the race in July and he can revisit the teams that drew interest. I still think its all talk, and don’t understand the panic its drawing
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by rock n rye on Nov 12, 2009 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
^^This is similar to a suggestion I made last offseason
Last year at this time, the words “fire sale” were swarming around the Tigers. I suggested that they instead make moves with the intention of contending in 2009, and then if they were out of it in July, proceed as they saw fit. I see no reason why that same strategy can’t work this year. Last time I checked, neither the Twins nor the White Sox looked like an unstoppable force.
I did NOT, however, suggest leaking rumors to the press that would scare the life out of the fanbase.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 12, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a business!
As Tigers fans we’re fortunate to have an owner who is in it for more than the money…but that doesn’t mean money doesn’t figure into it. The team can not operate if they aren’t making money. The poor contract decisions they’ve made in the past are now (at least according to the rumor mill) coming back to haunt them.
At this point, it looks to be an interesting offseason…and not in a good way.
by Mushy on Nov 12, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I don't agree.
Sure, it’s a business. But it’s not a growth business, nor a revenue generating business. Sports franchises, with very rare exceptions, are losing enterprises (unless you’re talking about the cash cow that is the NFL). Most teams either break even or are a bit under. Pro sports franchises, by and large, are vanity projects for gazillionaires who have hit it big doing other things, like owning virtually all the decent real estate in Detroit or selling $5 pizza.
This excuse doesn’t fly. Mr. I is never going to make much money, per se, on either the Wings or Tigers. They are his hobbies, and vehicles for him to sell his other products.
The team can, and does, operate when it’s not making money. It rarely “makes” money.
by rook34 on Nov 12, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Red Wings had a revenue total of $130 million in 2008-09.
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by Mike Rogers on Nov 13, 2009 1:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what were their expenditures?
And how much of that was a direct result of making a run to game 7 of the cup final? The figures, at least how I read them, don’t include expenditures. Your larger point is obviously correct. The wings had a great year.
by rook34 on Nov 13, 2009 8:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
This, I do not know.
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by Mike Rogers on Nov 15, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?!
Where are you getting your information from? Even the teams that have a tendency to lose money are considered growth companies. For example, the Sonics lost close to $60 million over the few years that they were under their previous ownership, however they sold the team for close to $350 million (purchased for $200 million) and made a profit of $90 million. These people are in the business of making money!
by Mushy on Nov 13, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
apples and oranges.
You are referencing a teams sale value, which is a different argument. I am talking about balance sheets on a year to year basis. Very few teams have massive profits at the end of the year. If you are looking to sell a franchise, sure, it can be a growth enterprise.
by rook34 on Nov 13, 2009 11:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless.
My point is that these are businesses, in many ways very similar to other businesses and that owners (as a majority) are not simply keeping their teams to fulfill some strange desire to be part of a championship. Yes, winning probably gives them some jollies, but all owners want to make money!
by Mushy on Nov 16, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
From the September 2009 Sports Illustrated article, on Ilitch
He is a businessman by trade, but he is consumed with two causes that don’t always lend themselves to profit. “Turning around our city,” he says, “and winning the World Series.” Ilitch, who is 80, wants to see those goals realized in his lifetime, which helps explain how the Tigers have managed to keep payroll high, ticket prices relatively low and the community-relations budget constant in a period of plummeting revenue. As one major league executive puts it, “Their owner doesn’t operate from a profit-and-loss standpoint. He treats the team more like a public trust.”
That’s why slashing payroll seems really uncharacteristic. At 80 years old, it’s not like Ilitch can wait around for another 10-year rebuilding project if he wants to see his team win a World Series. The guy isn’t getting any younger.
Also, I like how the tone of that article was pleasant surprise at how attendance was 4th highest even though the city’s been hit hard by the economy, and now, two months later, all they talk about is how “bad” the attendance was.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 16, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mentioned that...
….we’re lucky enough as a fanbase to have an owner who is not necessarily motivated exclusively by the bottom line. But even for an owner like Mr. Illitch, there is still a bottom line. At some point, he has to make a decision as to what he can/can’t afford.
by Mushy on Nov 16, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cutting costs...
That’s all this is about. This isn’t good, because the message we’re getting is that Illitch isn’t willing to extend the payroll for the one tough upcoming year. I was really hoping he would bear with it for a year until all those bad contracts come off… but I guess not. Getting rid of any of the Jackson/Granderson/Inge trio would be a terrible, terrible move.
We likely would only get prospects back, but the tigers are a team poised to win NOW. We should either blow up the whole team and rebuild Marlins style, or add 2 reasonable players and make a run for it until the payroll goes way down after this year.
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by ewild on Nov 12, 2009 11:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it would take...
…a Marlins style blowup. Illitch has already shown that he’s more than willing to spend, even to the point of excess, to win and keep winning. You’re absolutely right about cutting costs though. Too many bad contracts that are tying their hands financially, and it stinks because the players they’ll be able to afford to keep will likely be a serious downgrade.
by Mushy on Nov 12, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I take it you guys aren't buying DD's line about it "not" being a fire sale?
ESPN and MLB Trade Rumors wren’t buying it either.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 12, 2009 11:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
It isn't a fire sale because nothing has happened.
Folks need to step back and look at the larger picture.
by 13194013 on Nov 12, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, this is news and baseball has a lull in news right now so it makes a pretty good story.
Soon Bill “Head Up His Butt” Simmons will start on about Miguel Cabrera.
by 13194013 on Nov 12, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Boston Globe will be thrilled
And I thought other teams/the media acted like a bunch of vultures LAST year…
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 12, 2009 11:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I was just going to say that
if it was a fire sale, it’d involve more than two players being heavily rumored and we’d be getting shitty prospects and cash in return for them.
by allikazoo on Nov 12, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A fire sale after the team was one game from the playoffs
is called an overreaction. I think it’s pretty clear if we didn’t have so many guys batting under .250, things would have been different for us. A new hitting coach is the best solution, but I guess it seems clear that’s not going to happen.
by Elfuego51 on Nov 12, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But were the Tigers a game away from the playoffs because they were good or because the division was terrible? You can’t bank on the entire division being that mediocre again.
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by Mike Rogers on Nov 13, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What is this infatuation with Brandon Inge?
I realize that he is a face if the franchise, but when it comes to what he actually brings to the team, we could do a lot better than this guy for less money. He makes circus plays at third, but boots routine grounders regularly. H was better at the plate the first half of the season, but has so many holes in his swing, he’ll never be better than a 7 hitter. Shop him around please DD… If we can get someone to give us something for him, go for it. Then sign Chone Figgins. Better glove, better bat, way more speed, and about the same price. Plus, we need a legitimate leadoff man.
by Ohio Tiger on Nov 12, 2009 12:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
+1
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
by KidRick48 on Nov 12, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Guys...Inge or no Inge, we're not gonna get Chone Figgins
Way too expensive.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 12, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sometimes value to a team is not measureable by statistics...
I don’t know if this makes him worth keeping or not but a guy with his guts playing everday through that sort of knee injury had to had some sort of positive impact on his teammates to also tough it out.
As for the hole in his swing I won’t make an assessment until he gets another healthy season under his belt. The good first half was the result of plate adjustments. The bad 2nd half had alot to do with bad knees.
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by madpoopz on Nov 12, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
^This
It does us no good to speculate about how good/bad of a hitter/fielder he “truly” is until he gets to play a full season healthy, because it did look like he was onto something until the injury happened. Maybe he regressed, maybe not. But the timing of things makes it impossible to say for certain either way. The injury variable MUST be eliminated before any conclusions are reached (the same thing could be said for Galarraga and Zumaya). To do otherwise is just bad scientific form.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 12, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's played a bunch of healthy seasons here
He can’t hit. Period.
by Ohio Tiger on Nov 13, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But he hasn't played a full healthy season with the offseason mechanical adjustments
That is something that is far different from previous seasons, which makes two variables (one being the adjustment, the other being the injury). You can’t draw a solid conclusion if there are two variables.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 13, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tell that to his first half
Prior to injury, it was clear the 2009 Inge was going to be something we hadn’t seen before at the plate.
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by john.kmiecik on Nov 13, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Inge?
That would be Great!
To bad it won’t happen and either will Chone Figgins (though it would be great!)
I highly doubt anyone gets traded. If we could package a terible contract with it though then why not!
by JAYRC on Nov 12, 2009 2:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I'd be more inclined
To get rid of Inge’s contract then Dontrelle’s. There’s a ton of solid 3B on the market – Figgins, etc – and I think the Tigers are getting insurance for D-train’s contract anyway because he’s on the DL all the time.
But like you said, I doubt anyone goes. If they do, it’ll probably have to be an incredible deal.
by KidRick48 on Nov 12, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
figgins
damn..takes a tiger fan from ohio to see what ive been crying for..bye bye eileen..inge…hello chone…best leadoff hitter in the game..hate to see grandy leave but when u k as much as he and inge did this year its time for change..unless you all like missing the playoffs every year..the time is now why we have the pitching…are they gonna put rayburn in center full time?
by paul wall on Nov 12, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Paul Wall
I already enjoyed your music and custom gold grilles…
Looks like were also on the same sheet of music in regards to baseball
by JAYRC on Nov 12, 2009 5:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I think at GM Meetings
Everyone is available, who knows what another team would offer for someone you didn’t think anyone was interested in?
by Elfuego51 on Nov 12, 2009 5:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why, MLB Trade Rumors, why?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/11/trade-market-starting-pitchers.html
They have listed every one of our starting pitchers except Galarraga and Porcello (not sure how they overlooked him).
Why does the rest of the world think so poorly of us?
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 12, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The team plays in Detroit.
That is all.
by rook34 on Nov 12, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The rest of the world is full of jackasses.
It extends to all sports – everyone is waiting for the Red Wings to decline like starving vultures. The fact that they have been predicting the same thing for at least five years so they can claim they were right when it finally happens is of course irrelevant. >:(
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by Baroque on Nov 13, 2009 6:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They are called rumors.
Don’t take them as personal attacks. Someone thinks a is happening because of the possibility of b or c and runs with it.
by 13194013 on Nov 13, 2009 7:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unbelievable
Inge always wins the player of the week poll regardless of whether he plays (or plays well) that game. I think the Tigers would lose a significant sum in ticket sales if he were to leave town. He’s Tiger Nation’s Tiger, and I find it somewhat insulting that these reports might be true.
by Arvay7 on Nov 12, 2009 6:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Detroit fans
Love Grandy more then Inge. Inge get’s teenage girl infatuation love while Grandy gets man-love, and respect.
Granderson plays the game hard, dives after balls, has speed, power and goes above and beyond for the community. Inge also does all of that (minus the speed) but there is one key difference between these two that doesn’t have to do with individual performance…
It’s the fact that Grandy keeps his mouth shut, puts a smile on, and goes out and plays. Never an excuse. Inge loses and has lost much respect from Tigers fans because of the fact he regularly finds a way to make a stupid comment (pitching me like Babe Ruth) or using an injury (tendinitis? Really??) to downplay the fact that he’s average at best.
If Inge left, you’d see many tiger fans upset, of course. But the amount would not equal that of Granderson. The only way you can justify sending him anywhere is if DD gets a haul back that blows us all away.
by KidRick48 on Nov 12, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, a woman's player preference is just as valid as a man's
It’s probably true that Inge has more female fans than male fans (at least, judging by the gender distribution you see at any given Tigers game), but that doesn’t mean that they only possess “crush” love for him. I’d hazard a guess that the vast majority of them like him for legitimate baseball reasons (and I know of several males around here who have spoken favorably of Inge). Me? I like both Inge and Grandy, about evenly (not as much as I like JV, but his name hasn’t come up…yet). It doesn’t have to be one OR the other. And the reason I like them is because of what they have done for this team and because of the way they play.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 12, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Both players are immensely likable.
So are most of our guys. Personally, JV is my guy because I like the nasty edge he brings to the proceedings.
We all like different guys for different reasons. Giving up Grandy or Inge would be a self-induced PR disaster, particularly since they are the only two notable homegrown position players we have.
by rook34 on Nov 12, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I tremondous respect for the injury that Inge played through...
and all the things he does for those sick kids, and the other things he does for the community means he is more than JUST a Tiger. He is truly a representative of the city of Detroit and the people of Michigan.
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by madpoopz on Nov 12, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for some reason I feel less connected to Grandy...
I know he does alot of the same things for the city, if not more. I just feel that Brandon Inge is the bigger representative of Detroit as a whole.
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by madpoopz on Nov 12, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is everyone acting that it's either Inge or Granderson?
Couple of points. First, it’s November. Nothing is happening. The GMs are meeting in Chicago or whatever to do their post-season whatever and then they go home for Thanksgiving. The real meetings (read: the meetings that gave us Cabrera and Willis) aren’t until December.
DD said it either last off-season or in 2007: he’s always listening, no matter what. I can even remember talk about moving Verlander last year but we all know how that turned out.
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by john.kmiecik on Nov 12, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No idea why whole thing didn't paste.
Couple of points. First, it’s November. Nothing is happening. The GMs are meeting in Chicago or whatever to do their post-season whatever and then they go home for Thanksgiving. The real meetings (read: the meetings that gave us Cabrera and Willis) aren’t until December.
DD said it either last off-season or in 2007: he’s always listening, no matter what. I can even remember talk about moving Verlander last year but we all know how that turned out.
Second, why exactly do we have to move either of them? Unless Illitch wants to drastically reduce payroll, there’s no point in junking one guy. The big contracts totaling around $100m we can’t do a thing about; the rest are players we want to keep. We’re going to see a lot of the same Tigers next season, except a couple rookies in a few spots getting more playing time.
Third, please stop with Chone Figgins. Please.
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by john.kmiecik on Nov 12, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the only way any of these guys go....
is if DD can package one of the Toxic Contracts along with him.
by rook34 on Nov 12, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there's no rule requiring deals to be at the winter meetings
The Sheffield deal happened in November. The Twins and Brewers just traded Hardy. You can’t assume nothing is going to happen because it’s not the winter meetings.
I agree with the third point totally.
by Kurt Mensching on Nov 12, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know that
I’m just saying, it’s only November and if the last week of stories are any indication the Tigers will eventually close their doors come January if the trend continues. I’m just saying that a good deal of the big, big deals come at the winter meetings.
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by john.kmiecik on Nov 12, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sticking with my prediction...
unless the Yanks or Cubs decide they want Guillen, or Willis, or Bondo, or Maggs, no one’s going anywhere.
by rook34 on Nov 12, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Third, please stop with Chone Figgins. Please.
That’s hopeless. It’s like they are intoxicated and convinced that he will be affordable. You can’t talk sense to someone that stoned.
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by Baroque on Nov 13, 2009 6:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
leadoff
have we had a legit leadoff man since tony phillips??
by paul wall on Nov 12, 2009 10:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and who do you propose become our leadoff man?
and if you say Chone Figgins, you had better provide some sort of reasonable and feasible way for us to sign him.
He’s a type A free agent meaning he’s gonna cost alot and we’re gonna have to give up our first round pick (unless it’s top 15, than we give up the 2nd rounder)
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by madpoopz on Nov 12, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Figgins will be on one of the coasts.
Philly or LA. He likes the bright lights, and the cash that goes with it.
The White Sox have already said he’s too expensive for them. DD probably fears he’ll spontaneously combust if he so much as says Chone’s name.
by rook34 on Nov 12, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DD would trade Inge in a heartbeat--he can't, nobody wants a loser like Inge
Dombrowski’s been trying to get out from under Inge’s terrible contract and .205 in 2008 and .239 2009 batting average, with 170+ strikeouts in 2009 and a team and league leading (for 3B) 20+ errors.
NO TEAM, not even the Tigers,WANTS BRANDON INGE AND HIS 2010 CONTRACT.
Inge is the reason this team has failed so often at crunch time. Bases loaded and 1 out with Inge at the plate against the Twins in game 163—All he had to do against Minnesota that at-bat was hit the ball out of the infield (or draw a walk)—he couldn’t even do that. Instead he whined about being brushed back by an inside pitch.
Joe Maurer got screwed out of double against the Yankees in the ALDS this year—he didnt’ then fail like Inge failed—Maurer still got a hit.
Other teams and their fanbases know that Inge’s All-Star selection and participation in the HR Derby was a joke.
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/10/19/638519/brandon-inge-is-the-alcs-m
And who made the final out for the Tigers in the 2006 World Series? Inge.
by mr_chef_d on Nov 13, 2009 1:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Inge WAS hit by the pitch – and everyone knows the umpires screwed up on that one, too.
And although I’m not sure who this “Joe Maurer” is, Joe Mauer got a hit, true – and led his team to a win in the game … wait, what? Huh.
And newsflash – the Tigers fans know that the all-star selection was a joke, too – that’s why they were laughing as they were voting repeatedly while keeping themselves busy during slow periods at work. Find something else to be snarky about – that is sad and lame.
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by Baroque on Nov 13, 2009 6:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You could argue that several All-Star selections over the past few years have been a joke
That’s what happens when the starters are voted on by the fans. The vast majority of them either vote for their own guy or they vote for the guy that shows up on the Sportscenter highlights all the time. I’m not saying this is right or wrong. I’m just saying it happens (though I give the fans props for NOT voting for A-Rod this time around).
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 13, 2009 6:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I don't care what other teams' fans think of Brandon Inge
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 13, 2009 6:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This.
It’s a pathetic attempt at trolling from someone who rarely posts here. I’d listen to him if he actually had something credible to back it up but he sounds like just another rabid anti-Inge hothead (which I still can’t believe actually exist).
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by john.kmiecik on Nov 13, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to believe it my friend
Because if you turn on 97.1 The Ticket around here, every time he’s the topic of conversation, it’s exactly the same on the air as it is on here and every other forum. The city is split on Inge and will be until he’s gone. Half the people love him, half hate him, and that’s all there is to it.
I take issue with folks who think his D makes up for a horrible lack of O. Others take offense with fans loving him because he reminds them of an old school player with his high socks and hard nosed D. Then there are the fans who just love him for what he does on the field and off. Really, I could keep going but you get the point.
Facts are facts. He’s a above-average (AT BEST) baseball player, who’s been blessed with an amazing arm and a great glove down at 3B. The Detroit Tigers CAN win with Brandon Inge, but when you have a C and SS who hit just as terribly, it magnifies his performance at the dish, especially since 3B is normally a position of power and average (historically). If this team gets a good SS, and Laird can find his stroke into a .250 avg with amazing D, suddenly Brandon Inge at 3B with a .220-.230 avg. and 20 HR doesn’t sound all that bad in the 8 or 9 slot.
It’s when Brandon Inge is hitting 6th consistently that you need to rethink what’s going on with your team. He should be at the bottom of the order, not the middle.
by KidRick48 on Nov 13, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you obviously watch lots of Tigers baseball...
because Brandon Inge has absolutely NEVER saved a game by flashing a bit of leather. and a clutch home run? haha, never ever happened.
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by madpoopz on Nov 13, 2009 8:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So has...
Ryan Raburn. Miguel Cabrera. Curtis Granderson. Adam Everett. Hell, Edgar Renteria did it a couple times last year. Most guys at one point or another come through in the clutch – they’re pro’s, they’re supposed to. Inge had a nice year to start, but was anything but clutch down the stretch. Had a nice hit in 163 but later did not come through. My point though is that you can make that argument for almost any major leaguer with a few years of experience.
by KidRick48 on Nov 13, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes every player does have big moments...
how many of those players have spent the last 9 seasons with the Tigers?
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by madpoopz on Nov 13, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Point taken on the longevity
BUT if longevity equaled hall of fame career, Tram should be inducted already (which, I do believe he should, so that’s kind of a silly point) but I think you get what I’m saying.
I think Inge is only a Tiger these days because no one would take him in 08’ when Miggy was supposed to play 3B. He was on the block and no one wanted that contract.
There is absolutely no argument that Inge loves this city and does good things for the people around here, I will never argue that. I’m sure he loves being a Tiger – but he knows as well as most of us that if he went elsewhere, he would lose all this love and appreciation. He’s damn lucky to be a Tiger because he might never have made it elsewhere, or if he did, just as utility guy or a backup.
I guess what I’m saying is that a longevity argument is a moot point with no relevance, especially in this case, IMO.
by KidRick48 on Nov 13, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No offense but …. that’s the worst argued opinion I’ve seen here.
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by Mike Rogers on Nov 15, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So...let's sum up
On the subject of trades (and on this, I am referring to all four of the players who have been mentioned, not just Brandon Inge), there seems to be three distinct schools of thought:
1. It won’t happen
2. It should happen
3. It would suck if it did happen
Did I miss anything?
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 13, 2009 9:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
4
If it happens and all we get are prospects and we turn into the Pirates, I am not going within 3 miles of Comerica
by rook34 on Nov 13, 2009 9:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I think that qualifies as "It would suck if it did happen"
Maybe a subset of it (3a?). If that’s 3a, then 3b is what my gut is telling me: If it did happen, all we would get are lousy prospects.
by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 13, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lousy is implied.
More prospects fail than pan out. See maybin, miller, iorg. We were told all would be stars. We are waiting.
by rook34 on Nov 13, 2009 9:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Miller was rushed
Iorg… don’t believe the front office (I could have told you his plate discipline and bat sucked when he was drafted).
Maybin is 22. So cut him some slack.
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by demondeaconsbaseball on Nov 14, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Wood - Your 2010 Detroit Tigers starting third baseman
Please.
by mr_chef_d on Nov 14, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If it means trading jackson,
sending Willis along with him and benching Inge…
Yeah, for sure. (thumbs up)
by KidRick48 on Nov 14, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or your starting shortstop
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by demondeaconsbaseball on Nov 15, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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