Playing With the Tigers' 40-Man Roster
With major league teams having to finalize their 40-man rosters by Friday, the Detroit Tigers have some decisions to make about which players they want to protect and which to leave exposed for the Rule 5 Draft that takes place at the end of next month's Winter Meetings.
If you look at Detroit's current 40-man roster, you'll notice 42 names are listed. However, six of those names will be free agents as of Friday. That leaves four openings. But at least two of them are already spoken for, as Scott Sizemore and Ryan Strieby will need to be added.
(Jason Beck and Lynn Henning seem to be high on Brennan Boesch, who hit 28 homers for Double-A Erie this year. Me, I think he looks a bit like Number Two's son on The Prisoner. He could take up a third opening.)
So the Tigers will probably have to make some moves to create more room on the roster. Who else should go? And which prospects need to be protected?
At Mack Avenue Tigers, Kurt Mensching listed the players he thinks should go, and the ones that could stay. In his article on the subject, Beck also suggested a couple of other players Detroit could protect. (Just to clarify, players generally don't have to be protected until they've played four minor league seasons, which is why prospects such as Casey Crosby, Cody Satterwhite, or Brett Jacobsen Scott Green aren't being mentioned.)
[EDIT: Take 75 North's Matt Wallace reminds me that Jacobson was traded to Baltimore in the Aubrey Huff deal. My mistake. I keep trying to forget that trade ever took place.]
Almost two weeks ago, demondeaconsbaseball requested that we have a 40-man roster discussion thread, so this is probably the best time to do it. I know some are more familiar with the Tigers' minor league system than others. (I'm probably not as familiar with some prospects as I should be, either.) But I think plenty of you have an opinion on this.
Just to get the thread started, four names immediately stood out as players who could be cut when I looked over the roster. I'd send off Freddy Dolsi, Clay Rapada, Don Kelly, and Dontrelle Willis. (All but Willis have minor league options remaining, however, and could stay in the organization. As Kurt pointed out in his post, Eddie Bajek has listed who still has options at his blog, Detroit Tigers Thoughts.)
So what moves would you make? Is there anybody else you'd cut loose? Who's an important player for the Tigers to protect? Play with the 40-man roster!
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Jacobson
You might be thinking of Scott Green. Jacobson went out in the Aubrey Huff trade.
Oops - thanks for pointing that out
You caught me trying to repress the memory of the Huff trade.
by Ian Casselberry on Nov 19, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Huff trade?
What Huff trade? I know not of this “trade” that you speak about.
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by David Tokarz on Nov 19, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Huff
Yes, Jacobson, by way of never playing for the Tigers presents them with more value than Aubrey Huff did. Same goes for Mauricio Robles and Jarrod Washburn.
by mattintoledo on Nov 19, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Snip Snip
Option down Figaro and Dolsi. Cut Kelly and Rapada.
I’d be open to axing Bonine, Larish and possibly Willis, though keeping him around and on the DL (for insurance purposes) may be the smarter move.
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Why would you cut any of those guys?
Figaro has a 2.88 career ERA over 300+ IP in the minors and is probably a lot better than the stats for his 17 IP in the majors suggest. He and Bonine (who is probably worse than his stats suggest) offer sorely needed depth in an organization that has at least two question marks in the starting rotation going into 2010.
Kelly’s ability to play almost anywhere on the diamond makes him a pretty good asset as a bench player. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him on the 25-man in that role though if he ever bats 3rd again I’m going to go on a rampage with a fungo.
Larish OPSed .790 in the majors this season. He didn’t deserve to be demoted and if he’s healthy I still think he could be a valuable piece to the ’10 and ’11 club.
Rapada has pitched well in AAA and I think still may have a future with the club.
And finally I’m pretty sure Willis can refuse being designated for assignment. I could be wrong but if they could’ve removed him from the 40-man I think they would’ve done it already.
I really only think we have to make room for Sizemore and Strieby. I’m not sure how a club could hide a fringe propspect 3B on their club for 162 games and honestly I don’t think he’s good enough to worry about.
Lastly, Clevlen and McBride are free agents. If they don’t resign (which of course they might) that’s two more open spots.
Figaro has options left, so he would only be removed from the 40-man,
not from the organization. Clevlen and McBride may be free agents, but neither of them are on the 40-man roster, so even if they do leave the organization, it does not clear up any spots to protect Rule 5 eligible players.
As far as demondeacon’s suggestion of cutting Rapada, Kelly, Bonine, and Larish, most of these guys are mid- to late- 20s AAAA players that we could probably remove from the 40-man without much risk of other teams claiming them. I don’t want to put words in his mouth, but I’m guessing demondeacons is not suggesting that we outright release them, but that we put them through waivers or DFA them or whatever to remove them from the 40-man.
Pretty much this
Cutting Larish really depends on how much roster space DD wants- I think I’d hold off on that for a little while at least, but Bonine wouldn’t hold a roster spot.
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by David Tokarz on Nov 19, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Didn’t mean to suggest that I thought he was suggesting cutting them. That said I think there’s a very likely possibility that Larish, Bonine, Figaro and Kelly would be claimed if they were removed.
My mistake about Clevlen and McBride, I could’ve sworn they were on the 40 man during the season.
Figaro would undoubtedly be claimed,
but I believe he has two options left, so can’t he be removed from the 40-man without having to go through waivers? Or do I have my facts mixed up here?
That makes sense
In that case, keep Figaro on the roster. Forget Dolsi.
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by David Tokarz on Nov 19, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Matt Hagen at The Hardball Times just posted his Top 10 Tigers prospects.
You probably won’t be too surprised by his list, but a couple of the guys in our 40-man roster discussion are in his top 10.
I know absolutely nothing about prospects...
I usually just take demondeacon’s word for it.
However, if I made a choice of the mentioned names in the post, I would cut Rapada.
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Willis
At this point I’d have no qualms with just cutting him, what with only one year remaining on the deal. They ate more $ on Sheffield, for instance. It’s not like Dontrelle will contribute anything, right?
If he goes back on the DL
Illich gets insurance $
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by David Tokarz on Nov 19, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Options
I could be wrong, but I’m almost positive options don’t come into play when it comes to this time of year. Options only let you move guys between the 40-man and active roster. If you put a guy on the 40-man and then take him off, he has to clear waivers.
I know its kind of off topic, but just so everyone sees
Via Bob Nightingale on twitter about 30 min ago
“Keep and eye on developing three-way trade talk with Tigers and Mariners and mystery team involving M’s Brandon Morrow and Dets Jackson”
Not sure what to think, but I’ll keep my peepers open
Not nesecerily
Detroit may pick up Morrow AND something shiny from another team. Lets see what the package is first.
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by David Tokarz on Nov 19, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
They might get a SS
or another SP. I’d be surprised if teams were just swapping SP, there’s gotta be a nice position player involved.
Brandon Wood
Oh please Brandon Wood… or Reid Brignac.
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by David Tokarz on Nov 19, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Is anyone subscribed to insider on espn?
I want to see what they have to say, this is the 2nd update of this rumor, but it’s not worth it to me to pay monthy fees for only 2 months probably worth of fun.
And I agree, Brandon Wood would make me a happy camper. I think he’ll be a nice major leaguer.
Hell
We get Wood and we can use Dlugach as a utility candidate- non-tender or deal Santiago.
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by David Tokarz on Nov 19, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
ESPN Rumor Central has nothing more on it
I’ll put up a post shortly.
by Ian Casselberry on Nov 19, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions

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