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ESPN's Crasnick: Tigers-Mariners Trade "Pretty Doubtful"

Trading Edwin Jackson to Seattle might not be such a strong possibility for the Detroit Tigers, after all.

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Trading Edwin Jackson to Seattle might not be such a strong possibility for the Detroit Tigers, after all.

As of last week, it seemed like only a matter of time before the Detroit Tigers traded pitcher Edwin Jackson.  And the most likely trade partner appeared to be the Seattle Mariners.  According to ESPN's Jerry Crasnick, however, those discussions have stalled. 

(via MLB Trade Rumors)

On ESPN's Rumor Central (Insider), Crasnick reported that a source "familiar with the talks" told him that a trade between the Tigers and Mariners was now looking "pretty doubtful," as the two teams can't agree on what would be included in such a deal.  The prevailing opinion seems to be that Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski is looking to "sell high" on Jackson (13-9, 3.62 ERA), and in the Mariners' eyes, is asking for too much in a trade.

Seattle had also supposedly expressed interest in outfielder Curtis Granderson, but with Franklin Gutierrez already in centerfield, the Mariners have less of a need for him.  According to Crasnick, they're also concerned about Granderson's high strikeout numbers and poor average against left-handed pitching.  So there was far more interest in Jackson.

(Thanks to those who posted news and links on this in the comments of the previous post.)

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Not Surprised

I can’t say that I am surprised. I figured that the M’s wouldn’t be so interested that they would just throw whatever the TIgers wanted at them. I have a feeling that DD wanted Triunfel and Morrow or something similiar to that, and that the Mariners just don’t feel Jackson is worth that much. I think the problem is the fact that we don’t know what Morrow will end up being. The Tigers feel as if Morrow alone, seeing as how he has only shown glimpses of what he can be, is not enough for Jackson. While the Mariners feel as if Triunfel is a very special player, and that Morrow still has the possibility of being a lights out starter in this league. It seems like the most likely scenario for why the discussions have come to a hault

by Chizzleteypop on Nov 23, 2009 12:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

YAY!

I like good news!

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by madpoopz on Nov 23, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Heyman is angry for the wrong reasons

Mauer was that good. Anyone that didn’t vote for him deserves to be stripped of their ballot.

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by demondeaconsbaseball on Nov 23, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

According to MLB Trade Rumors

The lone first-place vote that went to someone other than Mauer (i.e. Miggy) came from Keizo Konishi of Kyodo News. I have no idea who Konishi-san voted for for second and third place.

I guess it goes back to that old debate about what constitues an MVP: The guy who puts up the best numbers overall, or the guy who is most important to his team. I respectfully abstain from that debate, but I daresay that Miggy was more important to the Tigers than Mauer was to the Twins.

by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 23, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

Link

Not sure why that didn’t show up the first time. I put it in there, I swear.

by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 23, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to discourage people posting links

But I need to ask a question: As readers, do you prefer breaking news like this in a thread where a) it’s arguably off-topic, and b) might get missed?

Or are you more likely to see it if someone puts it in a FanPost or FanShot?

With the bigger stories, I’ll try to get it on the front page in a timely manner, so I realize there’s that.

But really, I’m curious. Is it that people don’t like posting FanPosts? Is it just easier to post things in the comments of a given thread? Is it the worry that no one will read it? Or the burden of creating it?

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by Ian Casselberry on Nov 23, 2009 5:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Links

I’m thinking, just from a bystander standpoint, the links come in threads because of the nature of conversation and, perhaps, just not considering fanposts/fanshots as it involves a step outside of posting in the flow of a conversation/main post.

by 13194013 on Nov 23, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

people should use fanshots

fanposts are so seldom used i never even glance there. but I always read the fanshots

by Kurt Mensching on Nov 23, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Whats a fanshot?

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by demondeaconsbaseball on Nov 23, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, clearly there’s some work to do.

by Ian Casselberry on Nov 23, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

To be honest...

I think it has alot to do with the relaxed nature of this place that things tend to go off topic on these threads. Not really a bad thing.

But…

These should end up as fanshots. Fanshots are more appropriate for linking readers right to an article. It also makes it easier for you to create a front page story while giving appropriate credit to the original poster. So unless we’re in an open thread, links to stories (especially big ones) should end up in a fanshot.

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by madpoopz on Nov 23, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't speak for anyone else around here, but I'm just following the lead of others

I observed that most everyone who found a breaking news story or an article just stuck the link in the comments, so I assumed that was standard operating procedure. Honestly, I put the above link in this post by mistake. I meant to put it in the previous post (Since Morning/Afternoon/Evening/Weekend Prowl threads are a collection of links to news stories and blogs to start with). Admittedly, I sometimes forget to look at the fanshots and I know someone last week was complaining that people hardly ever comment on them.

I have an idea, though, and it involves using the fanposts, since people seem to have a tendency to check those out more often. Let me know if there are any objections.

by SabreRoseTiger on Nov 23, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I realize I took this post off-topic

But I’m going to explain why your idea of a “Breaking News” thread doesn’t work. In my mind.

A breaking news story should be its own post. It shouldn’t be lost in a thread that could go on who-knows-how-long (between the links and the comments responding to it).

We’ll have a dedicated post/thread to this tomorrow where we can discuss and hopefully clarify the whole situation.

by Ian Casselberry on Nov 23, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Back to the topic at hand

Maybe discussions between the Tigers and Mariners went something like this? (With the Tigers in the role of America, and the Mariners as Japan?)

by Ian Casselberry on Nov 24, 2009 12:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely topical, there

And as a critique, it was China, not Japan. ;)

But yeah, probably. There’s no need to trade young, cost controlled talent in Jackson/Granderson unless we get something very shiny in return. If the Mariners don’t like it, tough.

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by demondeaconsbaseball on Nov 24, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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