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Dontrelle Willis: Still a Work in Progress

Is your glass half-full or half-empty when it comes to Dontrelle Willis?  It's a question worth asking, because how you view his outing today probably depends on your outlook. 

When you look at the boxscore from this afternoon's game vs. Toronto, do the four runs (two earned) Willis gave up in one inning make your hair stand on end?  Or do you look at the one walk he allowed, and make that "hey, not bad" face?

It's a well-worn Spring Training cliche, but in this case, maybe we need to consider that Willis really is working on some things.  (Such a platitude might apply to him more than any other Tigers pitcher in major league camp.)  For him, that means keeping the ball in the strike zone and probably serving up some hittable pitches.  Is 25 strikes out of 43 pitches pounding the strike zone?  Well... that's about 58%. 

For what it's worth, Tigers coaches said they wanted Willis to emphasize repeating his delivery, according to Jason Beck.  And both Rick Knapp and the D-Train (that could become a sitcom this season) say they were generally happy with this opening effort.  But unless Willis completely imploded - as we saw last year - was that going to be the company line today?

Obviously, it's just the first outing of the spring for Willis, so too much shouldn't be read into this.  It was probably too much to expect for him to show pinpoint control and breeze through two innings.  (Though I'll admit I was hoping for that.)  But it's certainly disappointing to see that he struggled.

So how does your glass look?  Half-full or half-empty?

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I love this guy and really wish he could’ve been successful here, but I’m done holding out hope for him. He will never be his old self ever again.

by BigDaddyJC on Feb 27, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

I can't decide

 It kinda made me feel sick, but I don’t want to give up on him yet. Let’s give him through March at least.

But on MLB Network tonight the guys were talking about Japanese pitchers. In particular, their work ethic. It seems Japanese pitchers never stop pitching even between innings. There is no # of pitches where they have to stop. And, it’s like just the opposite here in the USA.

by densogirl on Feb 27, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

sounds bad but i say cut our losses with this guy and make a trade for some young talent. He is really not worth the trouble or the money. Another bad call by Dumbasski .

by HavocRox on Feb 28, 2009 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

ehh....

43 pitches in 2 innings, only one out that took less then 10 pitches? To me, it almost sounds like he got lucky with only one walk and the box line he had. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt so badly, but I’m stuck in the dead center. I like what densogirl said above: “Let’s give him through March at least.”

Dumbasski? Cute play on words, HavocRox, but you don’t mean that. Dombrowski has had way more good moves with the Tigers than bad. And trade Willis? Who is going to take him? Especially after seeing today’s box score? No one would take this guy unless he starts shoving the rest of spring… any attempt to trade him now is us trying to unload our burden on someone else. It really would take a dumbasski for someone to take a deal involving Willis and give up young talent….

by Detroit4lyfe on Feb 28, 2009 12:47 AM EST reply actions  

Thank you! The first step is having a positive attitude and Dontrelle appears to have that. He has shown some improvement but I think they need to throw him out there many more times before we give up on him. I wish him the best! How exciting it would be to get him turned around and be a dominant pitcher again. Detroit would love him.

by densogirl on Feb 28, 2009 7:37 AM EST up reply actions  

cut bait

I understand that the money we are paying him requires that we try everything possible to get him right… but we are wasting opportunities and attention to other pitchers who are not complete mental cases like Willis is right now. Rick Ankiel lost his ability to throw strikes… Chuck Knoblach couldn’t make the throws from 2nd base anymore… and now Dontrelle can’t keep it together. I’d much rather focus on Miner, Porcello, Robertson.

by Spiderdad on Feb 28, 2009 9:01 AM EST reply actions  

Half-empty

…he should just be the second-coming of Rick Ankiel. Let’s just cut our losses and see how he is in the OF.

GO BLUE

by Tony K on Feb 28, 2009 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

Fifth Starter?

Honestly, I was very disappointed in Dontrelle’s performance yesterday. I keep telling myself that this was his first game outing and perhaps he just needs a little more time in game situations. But when you add in Nate’s recent outing and Porcello’s outing, well, I’m not satisfied that the Tigers have anyone who can fill that fifth starter role right now. Fortunately, there are enough surplus quality position players (some without options) for the club to trade for another pitcher before the season starts.

by pfuhrmeister on Feb 28, 2009 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

Bondo

Well now Bondo’s arm problem might be more serious than we thought…..Little worried now.

by Detroit4lyfe on Feb 28, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

glass almost empty

My glass only has a few more drops in it.

by LPanas on Feb 28, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

One spring training appearance

you don’t know what he wanted to work on, what the pitching coach wanted him to work on, what the manager wanted him to work on, or anything else. Yeah, we’d all be feeling better if his meaningless day of work turned out better, his control was better, or whatever, but let’s reserve judgment a bit first, hey? Remember the team doesn’t approach spring training the way the fans do.

by Kurt Mensching on Mar 1, 2009 2:19 AM EST reply actions  

Willis

Watching MLB Network last night, they were interviewing (I think it was Tom Seaver…don’t quote me on that) who pitched in the 70’s and 80’s. He talked alot about how pitching has changed. But one thing that really stuck out was how he mentioned that you never give up on a pitcher who still has a strong arm He said it might take one little thing that gets them back on track.

by densogirl on Mar 1, 2009 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

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