Does Someone Out There Really Want the D-Train?
If the Detroit Tigers end up deciding that Dontrelle Willis just doesn't belong in their future plans (or the D-Train prefers not to do the minor league thing again, and forfeits that $22 million left on his contract), there's at least one guy who wouldn't mind taking a shot with him. Mike Berardino of the Sun-Sentinel would love to see Willis back in Florida.
Haven't been told this yet, but I could definitely see the Tigers trying to move him and get out from under the remaining $19 million or so that sits on his contract once stud prospect Rick Porcello is deemed ready.
The Marlins being the Marlins, they would probably need to cut that obligation as close to the minimum as possible to take him back to an already stacked rotation, but why not bring him back for close to nothing and let him pitch out of the bullpen?
I mean, who would you rather have as your situational lefty: Dan Meyer, John Koronka or the D-Train? Willis handled just that role, remember, in the 2003 World Series win over the Yankees.
Berardino also thinks the chances for a turnaround might be better with the Marlins, as Mark Wiley returned as the team's pitching coach last season, and he tutored Willis during his 22-win season in 2005. Hey, if he says so.
Perhaps Berardino hasn't read Kevin Goldstein's latest Spring Training notebook for Baseball Prospectus, however. (Thanks to ThaWalrus9 for mentioning this in the comments yesterday.) Goldstein talked with a scout about what he'd seen from Willis, and it wasn't very pretty:
"There are three things that stuck out for me when I saw him this spring," he began. "First, he's a lot heavier—his thighs are enormous, and I think that impedes his athleticism on the mound, as he can't contort his body the way he used to. Second, his mechanics are different. They've 'cleaned up' his delivery, but that actually makes him less effective, because it's taken away his deception. He was a freak before, and would never throw the same pitch from the same slot, but now he's just an ordinary three-quarters [delivery] guy." Using his final point to explain how these physical issues may be effecting him mentally, he continued, "Third, his mound presence and demeanor are different. He looks content to survive and does not display any confidence out there. He worked behind most hitters and would shake off his catcher—almost as if to say 'it's OK, I got it'—whenever he would fall into trouble."
Yowza. The scout added that Willis would have "no shot" against a regular major-league lineup with the stuff he was showing, and doesn't look anywhere close to suitable for a spot in a starting rotation.
So with just over a week left in Spring Training, does Willis still have enough time to turn himself around and make a winning impression? Or, with the Tigers perhaps needing to fill not one, but two spots in that rotation, might they have no other choice but to send him out there every fifth day with fingers crossed? (Unless, of course, Nate Robertson's thumb is okay, and the Tigers decide Rick Porcello can help them more in the majors.)
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While this would be pretty nice to see, I don’t see it happening. Willis has been through two pitching coaches in Detroit now, and I feel that he’s reaching the point where he’s beyond coaching to fix his issues. We’ve seen his trademark delivery slowly return over Spring Training, and it keeps coming back every game toward the end of his assignment.
Anyway, it’d be nice to see him go. It’d be helpful to get out from under his monster contract that increasingly doesn’t look like it will pay off.
by john.kmiecik on Mar 28, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was ridiculous to give him that contract before he’d done anything in Detroit…especially as it was obvious right from the start last year that there were serious problems with his control…Dombrowski screwed up majorly on that one….
by ahtrap on Mar 28, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Want Willis Winning In Detroit....
……..I want him winning 12 – 15 games for THE D this year!!! GO D TRAIN!!!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hes Gonna Be The 5th Starter....
……No dount about it……GO WILLIS!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, we should just pencil in a bad loss every 5 days?
by ahtrap on Mar 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see
I don’t think he’s going to the Marlins. Nope. But we’ll see how he pitches tomorrow. Leland said he might pitch Sunday. If it’s the same-o, same-o, then things probably don’t look good for him. However, he may just blow us away and be respectable.
by densogirl on Mar 28, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I Think We All Want Willis....
……Over Robertson……All he has to do is pitch 5 solid innings tomorrow and hes the fifth starter.
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 28, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how could anyone??
how could anyone read this article from the scout and think he could win games in the big leagues? I love the D-TRAIN,,but got to be a realist..no positive news with this situation..they can give him and chef back to the marlins..chef is too old and needs to retire,..he is good for 1 or 2 good games a month..thats it!
by PBURGTIGER on Mar 28, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He Threw 4 2/3 Scorless....
……The other day……Robertson was about to get lit up by the Mets (2 on none out) before he got hurt…..I think Willis gives us the better option…..If everyone thinks Willis is done then Roberston is too….Hes lost his control and 5 mphs off his fastball since 06
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 28, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, but that doesn't make him a worthwhile 5th starter
Just because he put up one mediocre game in which he threw approx. 50% of his pitches for strikes does not make him a worthwhile candidate. Particularly when the game before he threw only 2 2/3 with 4 runs and 7 hits. Also, just because you have a second pitcher on the roster who is washed up at a young age does not mean that either of them should get the 5th SP role. It just means that we have a sunk cost in both of them and that they were poor investments.
by baum on Mar 29, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same As Nate.....
……Nates good for one or two good games a month.
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 28, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Willis Pitches Sunday....
…….And does awesome!!!! GO D TRAIN!!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 28, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Robertson is hit or miss…he’ll mix in a good start every now and then.
Willis seems to be a lost cause. If he slows down for control, he’s throwing BP…if he attacks hitters, he has no command.
That all said, the only reason these two are even in the mix is because of their contracts.
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by rings on Mar 29, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather just have Robertson...
Either him or Porcello. Porcello isn’t ready, but he can be brought up every once in a while if there is an injury. I hope Willis doesn’t make it…
by ZWC11 on Mar 29, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather see him hitting than pitching
If he still can’t pitch, they should try him batting. Or anything that will make that signing reasonable. If D-Train hits home runs with Detroit, then there’s something that he is able to do.
by You, Darvish! on Mar 29, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait.. I want Miner...
So far he’s pitching like a super star today, and has been really good his last few. If he continues to do this good, then he needs to be in the talks again.
by ZWC11 on Mar 29, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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