Game 12: Tigers at Mariners
by Ian Casselberry on Apr 19, 2009 3:30 PM EDT
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PrintDetroit Tigers at Seattle Mariners, Apr 19, 2009 4:10 PM EDT
Rick Porcello (0-1, 7.20) vs. 
Carlos Silva (0-1, 6.00), 4:10 p.m. EST
The Detroit Tigers have a chance to win their second series of the young season with today's rubber game against the Mariners. (The Mariners, on the other hand, haven't lost a series yet this year.) If this one goes like the first two games in Seattle, it should be a funday, Sunday evening.
After his second start of the season was rained out, Rick Porcello gets a chance to pitch under better conditions than he would've last Tuesday in Detroit. Safeco Field might provide a more pitcher-friendly setting than Rogers Centre, as well. Porcello tired out after the fourth inning in his first appearance, but up until that point, he got the Blue Jays to hit into many groundball outs. How will that work against the Mariners' new small ball approach?
Last year, the Tigers pounded Carlos Silva like a veal cutlet. In three starts against them, Silva posted a 17.69 ERA. (Do I need to mention he went 0-3? I guess I just did.) He gave up five runs or more in each appearance, and in one of those games, didn't even make it out of the first inning. As Geoff Baker points out on his blog, Silva has relied primarily on his fastball in his first two starts this year. And if that's how he pitches today, The Tigers could make it ugly.
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Starting Lineups
TIGERS
1. Curtis Granderson CF
2. Placido Polanco 2B
3. Magglio Ordonez RF
4. Miguel Cabrera 1B
5. Carlos Guillen DH
6. Brandon Inge 3B
7. Josh Anderson LF
8. Ramon Santiago SS
9. Matt Treanor C
MARINERS
1. Ichiro Suzuki RF
2. Endy Chavez LF
3. Ken Griffey, Jr. DH
4. Adrian Beltre 3B
5. Jose Lopez 1B
6. Yuniesky Betancourt SS
7. Jamie Burke C
8. Ronny Cedeno 2B
9. Franklin Gutierrez CF
by Ian Casselberry on Apr 19, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions
How many times does Anderson have to succeed before
Leyland realizes that his speed is infinitely more valuable to the team than Marcus’ power?
how many times does Guillen have to fail before
Leyland realizes that Thames should be the full-time DH with Anderson in left?
by handsomerob1 on Apr 19, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re still pretty early in the season. I think Guillen hasn’t shown much promise this year, but it’s not quite time to start jerking around the lineup just yet.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
it goes back to last year
his age is beginning to show
by handsomerob1 on Apr 19, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t doubt that, and you may very well be right. We didn’t start 0-7 and aren’t the butt of every MLB joke right now, so I doubt Jim wants to shake much up in the early goings.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Not so bad. Gave up a solo shot to Cedeno this inning, but otherwise pretty solid.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, Rod and Mario are openly wondering if Porcello was potty trained by the time Griffey, Jr. made his big league debut.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Aflac Trivia Question
“Since 1919, who is the youngest pitcher to start a game for the Tigers?”
Obvious answer is obvious (Porcello) but I’m thinking there is more to this one.
Let's see if Guillen can get himself off the schniede.
He’s quickly taken over the doghouse left vacant by Renteria’s departure
Is Carlos’ doghouse really as bad as Renteria’s? That’s saying something.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not as bad as the penthouse suite in the doghouse that's occupied by Robertson.
But it’s close.
Refresh me: has he pitched outside that like, 1 inning against the Blue Jays?
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he had a couple of other short appearances.
And in his defense, he hasn’t been that awful. But last year buried him completely.
I can’t think of him blowing up this year, so that’s a good thing for him I suppose. You’re right though, last year earned him no favors.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Good job by Inge there. Also, that was a really bad Wild Pitch.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, gazelle-like. Injured gazelle is more like it.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear Ian: please post updated ERA numbers for Silva in the game wrap thread.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Lurking in the shadows...
Mario and Rod just reminded me of this during that last half inning.
What do the Tigers do once both Bonderman and Willis are back? Miner will most likely get pinched to the bullpen, but who else goes? Arrrrrrrmando, Verlander and Jackson are safe.
Put it this way: You’re DD/Leyland on the day you’re activating Willis from the DL. Bonderman is already back, taking Miner’s place. Who goes?
There's honestly no better problem to have
than too many players who could start and start well. I’ll believe it when I see Willis back, though. And it’d obviously be Rick, he’s still a kid, and could still use some seasoning and pitch limits.
Willis? I doubt he’ll ever be more than an afterthought…that crash and burn job after his spectacular first couple of years has been pretty devastating
Unfortunately, you can’t ignore that contract. Yes, the numbers and ability to play are a huge part. But can DD deal with having that huge contract basically play in the minor leagues for two seasons straight? I wonder if there’s any pressure from Illitch.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Treanor...
might be the worst offensive player in the league.
Check out www.spotstarters.com for more news on the Detroit Tigers.
haha
No. its’ definitely treanor. He is ungodly bad. it’s a train wreck. I’d like him to pretend he’s a pitcher in the NL and not swing the bat. because at least he only makes one out that way.
by Kurt Mensching on Apr 19, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
er I mean
pitcher when the AL faces the NL.
by Kurt Mensching on Apr 19, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Certainly appears that way ;) Kurt showed up though!
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually took a nap in the second and third innings
oops
by Kurt Mensching on Apr 19, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I forgot it was on until after the first.
We’re all human.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
so what's the weather report down there?
15 inches of snow expected in Marquette. Anyone else going to suffer?
Rain and sprinkles, nothing too fun for us. I think we’re expected to get some snow showers on Tuesday, but that’s about the extent of it.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
80 and sunny
not a cloud in the sky in Houston today.
by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 19, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
How many of us are actually in Michigan?
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I could be
no jobs left.
by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 19, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m at Michigan State now, graduating in May 2010. I’ll be honest… I have little intention of staying in the state. It’s sad.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I graduated from U of M last April and there was nothing for college grads. But I could never root for the Astros. I hate the NL and the fans down here as well.
by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 19, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d really love to live in San Francisco, but I just don’t think I could be a Giants fan.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to live in Seattle
but I definitely couldn’t be a Mariners fan!
by Kurt Mensching on Apr 19, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
in the thumb, until i graduate in may and find a teaching job somewhere in the continental united states—which probably won’t be in MI
Plenty of teaching jobs in TX
they have billboards all over the highways telling people to apply for teaching jobs in TX
by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 19, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
thay's why I'm in GA right now
wife’s a teacher, GA desparate for teaching, at least they were 2 years ago
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/
Aldine schools
will be represented at the teacher fairs i’m going to this weekend (one at CMU and one at MSU)—i’m thinking about checking them out
Sorry to hear about the job woes
All the young folks leaving MI. My son probably will too.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
he should be
he could go longer, but we’ve got a bullpen that plays well, may as well use it
by Kurt Mensching on Apr 19, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say yank him
they were saying how Jim has been trying to get his bullpen work since the starters have been pitching so well and 85 is a lot for a youngster making just his second start. Plus he’ll leave feeling REALLY good about his outing.
Just got home from work
and worrying they didn’t beat up the kid up too much. WOW is all I’ve to say.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
I've got a love/hate relationship with Kyle Farnsworth
I hate him on the Tigers.
I love him on divisional rivals.
Porcello
Is lookin Sharp. Inge is the Inge of 06. Caberra is playing lights out. Got Love Curtis. Bullpen is better than 08. We should make the playoffs. I think the Yankees and Red Soxs are in trouble.
The Yankees are absolutely in trouble. The Indians gave them an absolute shellacking yesterday.
by john.kmiecik on Apr 19, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Dombrowski obviously has a clause in his contract
that pays him a bonus every time one of his draft picks cracks 100 mph.
Don’t knock Dombrowski when the Tigers are playing well. The guy knows talent and it is up to the players to execute.
by jerseyboyinmi on Apr 19, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Dang
We coulda swept ’em.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
more fun than last year
thats for sure
by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 19, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions
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